The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 What make you sure Remy would've done a better job than Didier? A logical reason to play a more experienced player who's been here longer, played longer and knows the team players and manager's thoughts better to play the match.And is it Didier's fault Cesc can deliver that clear cut chance or is it his fault Hazard can't keep that volley down or couldn't tap that ball in or maybe it's his fault Cesc lost the ball in the middle made them counter and Cahill couldn't keep his legs closed which the ball went through his legs and to the net?!Incredible how you 1. Think current Didier is better than Remy 2. Absolve Didier from any blame whatsoever, as if Didier never had some of the greatest chances of the game created for him. No point in discussing it with you is there really. We Hate Scouse, Daniel1980, Term-X and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Incredible how you 1. Think current Didier is better than Remy 2. Absolve Didier from any blame whatsoever, as if Didier never had some of the greatest chances of the game created for him.No point in discussing it with you is there really.You didn't get the point. If you read my first post i mentioned he wasn't probably fully fit but putting the blame on one person is only ridiculous. Everyone were at fault last night from Didier to Cesc to Eden to Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 He just wasn't up to it last night, he looked off the pace and every time he mis controlled the ball you could hear his frustration.I honestly think this was a mistake from Jose starting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 its only the first match, i think it should be expected that he will be match unfit. not sure why jose didnt play remy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Wait till arsenal game, thats all Im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Drogba allowed Frank Lampard to be EPL's top scorer...No Drogba, Lampard would of never risen to the status he is now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Wait till arsenal game, thats all Im sayingHopefully he isn't needed for that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So, explain why Drogba is close to being one of the greatest Chelsea players please. TWO years of 12+ goals in the league. Apart from those two seasons, he had a pretty mediocre goal-scoring record for the other 6 (87 goals in 237 games is not good). He was a very good striker who had two fantastic seasons and happened to play on fantastic teams so he had a lot of big game moments (he also had a lot of bad moments in big games which is normal) . We have had a lot of very good strikers but none have ever been on teams like Drogba was so never had the opportunity to have those massive games in front of the world. Chelsea have had a lot of very good strikers. Bentley, Osgood, Dixon, Tambling, Greaves. What makes Drogba stand apart from any of those players except that he played on better teams and was able to play and score in big games? By and large, those players played for longer for Chelsea and were more consistent. You look at someone like Lampard or Terry who were excellent players for Chelsea every single year for about a decade on the same team. I'm not saying Drogba was not a great player overall, just that because of his big-game moments, many Chelsea supporters have elevated him to a status he doesn't belong to. As for belonging to the best of PL forward, there's not really a serious case. Henry is the best Premier League striker ever IMO (but Shearer is very close). Henry got UEFA team of the year 5 times in 6 years (he scored 26+ goals 6 times). Wayne Rooney has scored more than 16 goals in 10 straight years. Hassailbank did it 7 times. Fowler did it 6 times, Shearer did it an amazing 11 times. Michael Owen did it 7 times. Van Nistelrooy did it 5 times in 5 years. Van Persie has done it 5 times. Drogba did it twice. You're comparing a player who had two excellent seasons with players who were excellent for 5-10 years. Hassailbank is a good comparison to Drogba because they both played 9 years in the Premier League (and both played with Chelsea.) Here is where Drogba finished in the EPL scoring race in his career in the EPL. 16, 10, 1, 24, 54, 1, 12, 59, X. Compare that to Hassailbank who finished 4, 1, 1, 2, 14, 13, 4, 14, 113 in his Premier League time. You don't see the difference? Hassailbank was a top-5 scorer in the league 5 times. He was a top-15 striker in the league 8 straight years. Drogba finished top-5 in the league in scoring twice. He was top-15, 4 times in 8 years (and won't be this season either obviously). Hassailbank also had a year in there with Atletico where he finished second in the league in scoring in Spain (24 goals in 34 games). You don't think if Hassailbank played on the slightly later Chelsea teams, he also would have scored lots of big goals in big games? Of course he would have. Drogba was a great player but not an all-time great. Stats don't tell the whole story. You're wrong. Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Wenger on Drogba:"I would have loved to have managed Didier Drogba, for two reasons.One, I missed him when he played at Le Mans in France, not even in the top league. I knew there was a good player there and I missed him.And secondly, because he hurt us so much in big games that all this pain would not have happened."http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11105870/Arsene-Wenger-reveals-his-biggest-transfer-regret-was-losing-out-on-Cristiano-Ronaldo-to-Manchester-United.html killer1257 and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 18, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 18, 2014 Wenger on Drogba:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11105870/Arsene-Wenger-reveals-his-biggest-transfer-regret-was-losing-out-on-Cristiano-Ronaldo-to-Manchester-United.htmlWenger with his traditional interview about how close he was to signing world 11 players. bababoom, Term-X, Styles and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Remember this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Plenty of life left in our Didier yet.I'll be sure to remind certain members of their vitriolic prattle when he next scores. Chelsea Legend 11, Jype and Sidzeret 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think the annoyance comes from the fact everyone knew Remy should of started against Schalke.You can't say anything bad about him because of what he has done for this club, but for me, the other night, Jose was wrong starting him and that was the view from me before KO.He will always be a decent option but that's it, our solidity up top comes from Costa and Remy. zolayes and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What make you sure Remy would've done a better job than Didier? A logical reason to play a more experienced player who's been here longer, played longer and knows the team players and manager's thoughts better to play the match.And is it Didier's fault Cesc can deliver that clear cut chance or is it his fault Hazard can't keep that volley down or couldn't tap that ball in or maybe it's his fault Cesc lost the ball in the middle made them counter and Cahill couldn't keep his legs closed which the ball went through and to the net?!Because Remy is better than current Drogba. Not even a question. MrBlueGuy and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think the annoyance comes from the fact everyone knew Remy should of started against Schalke.You can't say anything bad about him because of what he has done for this club, but for me, the other night, Jose was wrong starting him and that was the view from me before KO.He will always be a decent option but that's it, our solidity up top comes from Costa and Remy.He was and he wasn't. I'm surprised Remy didn't start as well, but he's only recently joined up with the club and maybe hasn't trained as much as José would have liked. José saw this as a game we should have won easily (which we should have) and chose to give Didier the time to improve on his fitness and sharpness. As the game went on he visibly improved physically IMO, and his match sharpness will arrive with time. I can perfectly understand why José chose to start him, especially given his CL experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Because Remy is better than current Drogba. Not even a question.Not based on the points i made in my post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not based on the points i made in my post!No, Drogba isn't as good as Remy. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Traveler 256 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 No, Drogba isn't as good as Remy. Simple as that. First of all based on what he is not as good? second of all if you read the posts the argue was about who was a better choice in Schalke game not that who's better that whom and i believe Drogba were a better choice as i pointed in my previous posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 First of all based on what he is not as good? second of all if you read the posts the argue was about who was a better choice in Schalke game not that who's better that whom and i believe Drogba were a better choice as i pointed in my previous posts!You said he'd be a better choice because of his vast experience, correct? As does Remy, he may not have as much as Drogba but you can't ignore his years at Marseille when he played in the CL.What did Drogba offer us yesterday? I know for sure we would have won if Remy played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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