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10. Christian Pulisic


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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

If they had true football culture and their best athletes played football since toddlers like other nations, then with their athletes they would be damn near unstoppable. That will neve happen, as the cream of the crop gets sucked into the fairytale that is yank football (the odds are staggeringly against a person making a living in it versus real football), plus some for basketball (better odds there as the less talents can go play globally, unlike almost all yank football players). Plus the RW culture there has always thumbed their nose at football, called it boring and a (insert nasty slur) game (which is ludicrous and so typically 'Murican). They are so insular when it comes to global athletic culture that they cannot dominate.

I think yank football should be banned, it is a brutish, viscous, destructive game that leaves 99% + who play it from teen years on (or even before) physically and mentally damaged, and far too often financially too.

Look at this FUCKED UP shit the NFL was doing until THIS YEAR

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NFL agrees to drop race bias in concussion claims

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336282

The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have a lower level of cognitive function.

America's top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.

Two black players filed a civil rights lawsuit over the practice.

One black player involved in the litigation called the policy "classic system racism".

More than 2,000 former NFL players have lodged dementia claims, but fewer than 600 have received compensation.

Lawyers say more than half of NFL retirees are black.

Attorneys have requested details on how NFL brain injury payouts have been apportioned along racial lines, but are yet to receive any details.

Two former black players, Kevin Henry and Najeh Davenport, who were refused payouts under a $1bn (£0.7bn) NFL compensation scheme for brain injuries, launched a civil lawsuit over race-norming.

But the judge dismissed the lawsuit in March and ordered the NFL and the main lawyer for the compensation scheme to negotiate a settlement.

She also took the unusual step of calling for a full report on the racial bias allegations.

In its use of race-norming, the league compares a given player's cognitive test scores with the supposed norm for his demographic group. Under the methodology, black players are assumed to possess a lower level of cognitive function than the average white player.

But attorneys say the standard means that in order to qualify for compensation, the average black player must demonstrate a greater level of cognitive decline than a white counterpart.

Ken Jenkins, a retired black player supporting the litigation, told the Hill: "This is classic systemic racism. Just because I'm black, I wasn't born with fewer brain cells."

 

 

I actually enjoy watch American Football, it is super tactical. I agree there are a lot of things that are far from ideal with it, for instance a Running Back has a average career span of 2.5 years, but it is a good sport once you can appreciate the nuances of it. 

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What a lovely little ball for the 4th that was.

Read an article today that shows at present his productivity with and without the ball is overall pretty poor compared to the other players in his position. He averages fewer tackles per 90 mins

Everyone has their opinion and I respect that but I just find his apprehension (if that's the right word) towards Pulisic somewhat bemusing. Loan him out to learn his trade? Really? If Pulisic was som

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6 hours ago, Jas said:

So now the Americans will convince themselves that they will win the next World Cup...

You mean all nine of us that watch it?

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So at least he can have his holiday now. Gold cup is like from July 11 to Agusut 4 or so. Puli probably gonna miss whole preseason and miss the beginning of the premier league season injured.

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7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

So at least he can have his holiday now. Gold cup is like from July 11 to Agusut 4 or so. Puli probably gonna miss whole preseason and miss the beginning of the premier league season injured.

Oh. Didn't know there's the Gold Cup this summer. Well, our pre-season is really gonna be mostly filled with kids at this point!

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Typical CONCACAF match, complete with projectiles raining down on the pitch, horrible refereeing, flops galore, and no flow.  The referee pool is 90% people from leagues that are called very differently than most of the American and Canadian teams are used to. So they have to adjust to playing with constant stoppages for various forms of drama. And because of the off the pitch history of the Mexico-US rivalry (Google “Landon Donovan bags of piss”) there is real hatred between the clubs and fan bases. Long time USMNT fans loved to see Pulisic choose to celebrate in front of the Mexican fans. A LOT of water under the bridge there.
 

The sub Reddit for this match was hilarious. One of my favorite entries — “Come for the projectiles, stay for the obligatory Mexican choking McKennie.”

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It was one of the wildest... strange and poor quality wild Finals I can remember. So much going on around the pitch too. 
 


 

I love how Clint Dempsey just watches the guy take a 30 - 50ft fall like.... interesting. I have read several accounts the guy was seriously hurt. Do yourself a favor and read the Twitter comments.....so much winning.

 

  

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2 hours ago, Jas said:

Oh. Didn't know there's the Gold Cup this summer. Well, our pre-season is really gonna be mostly filled with kids at this point!

Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol.

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3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol.

USA didn't qualify for the Olympics.

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7 minutes ago, Jas said:

USA didn't qualify for the Olympics.

thank fuck. Puli is the guy to actually volunteer for this lol

Would be mad from a club perspective if anyone else who participates in the euro also would participate in the olympics.

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30 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Let's just hope Puli does not chose to make it a hattrick and also participate in the olympics for the US team lol.

He is not participating in Gold Cup.  He is resting and recuperating, getting ready to compete for playing time (as he said recently in response to a reporter's question).

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13 minutes ago, DanP2311 said:

He is not participating in Gold Cup.  He is resting and recuperating, getting ready to compete for playing time (as he said recently in response to a reporter's question).

Good, if true.

The club will have so many players in the Euros and once they're done with the tournament they'll have a few weeks holiday before joining pre-season training so if Pulisic will be there from the very start in July he can have a bit of a head start. As a player whose role in the team is not quite secured he should really take that opportunity to get back in. Same for Ziyech btw.

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20 minutes ago, Jype said:

Good, if true.

The club will have so many players in the Euros and once they're done with the tournament they'll have a few weeks holiday before joining pre-season training so if Pulisic will be there from the very start in July he can have a bit of a head start. As a player whose role in the team is not quite secured he should really take that opportunity to get back in. Same for Ziyech btw.

He is a competitor. He will compete. He now knows that he is likely to be used differently than he was under Lampard, so we shall see how the competition for playing time goes. I think he loves Chelsea FC and wants to secure his place there.  But I also think he sees himself as a starter, and probably has trouble understanding why Werner gets so many more minutes and chances than he gets.  So the way he feels about his future at Chelsea FC in the summer of 2022 may be different than the way he feels now.

I am optimistic that TT will find a way to use Pulisic's talents. But if not, sometimes the needs of a club and the needs of player diverge.

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10 hours ago, DanP2311 said:

He is a competitor. He will compete. He now knows that he is likely to be used differently than he was under Lampard, so we shall see how the competition for playing time goes. I think he loves Chelsea FC and wants to secure his place there.  But I also think he sees himself as a starter, and probably has trouble understanding why Werner gets so many more minutes and chances than he gets.  So the way he feels about his future at Chelsea FC in the summer of 2022 may be different than the way he feels now.

I am optimistic that TT will find a way to use Pulisic's talents. But if not, sometimes the needs of a club and the needs of player diverge.

It would be bizarre if he really thought that when in the final two months of the campaign, Werner was primarily being used as a striker, leaving Havertz, Mount, Ziyech and even CHO as Pulisic's competition for the other two attacking spots. Furthermore, in the final two months of the campaign or since the March international break, both Werner and Pulisic ended up playing a similar amount of minutes with the former just playing a tad more than the latter (less than a game IIRC). Plus, it's not as if Pulisic covered himself in glory every time he started either. 

Think next season could be a key one for Pulisic considering he would have only two years left on his contract come next summer. If he doesn't kick on next season, something that he didn't really do this past season after a strong end to 2019/20, then things could change for him. 

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8 hours ago, Jas said:

It would be bizarre if he really thought that when in the final two months of the campaign, Werner was primarily being used as a striker, leaving Havertz, Mount, Ziyech and even CHO as Pulisic's competition for the other two attacking spots. Furthermore, in the final two months of the campaign or since the March international break, both Werner and Pulisic ended up playing a similar amount of minutes with the former just playing a tad more than the latter (less than a game IIRC). Plus, it's not as if Pulisic covered himself in glory every time he started either. 

Think next season could be a key one for Pulisic considering he would have only two years left on his contract come next summer. If he doesn't kick on next season, something that he didn't really do this past season after a strong end to 2019/20, then things could change for him. 

I think we are saying the same thing (or consistent things), two different ways. He is happy at Chelsea now, recognizes that he must compete for PT, and is happy to do that next year. He has said as much publicly.  He has also intimated that he wants to be a starter, or the equivalent of a starter in a rotation system. There is a manager perspective and a player perspective. They are not the same and both can be right, even when they conflict. TT might maximize Chelsea outcomes in a way that doesn’t maximize Pulisic’s effectiveness. Such is the nature of formations and systems. Chelsea knows this better than most clubs.

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6 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

 

He is very humble, I like that. But also he states he just like playing, don't put pressure on him. Because all eyes on him in America. 

Good thing for us is that it brings more viewership and hence in theory more revenue to come in from USA. 

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