OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 18/12/2018 at 8:42 PM, Warning_Hazard said: All the best are shiny! What grade of shiny? nah lads look at liverpool shaqiri was 13m list goes on also about getting the best out of players Unless we get a new owner we won't be buying worldies, agents are parasites and ffp to name a few reasons next they will kill loan market leicester have shown us all its not about £100m players That's exactly what I mean when I say it's about recognising the good from the shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 19/12/2018 at 2:02 PM, Mana said: While I prefer someone with a bigger name... Wilson is still better than Morata and Giroud put together. Real talk. So if he joins us, I'll be a little sad but it's still an upgrade. I think we'd all agree that this approach should not be plan A. In fact it's plan C at best. Competition is fierce for the top level player we need but if we want to compete with the best on the pitch, then we have to compete with them in our recruiting. Lots of clubs around Europe are consistently better than we are at identifying quality players at a stage when they are affordable and attainable. That's our challenge. Spending big on players who we know are below the quality required actually makes it harder for us ever to reach our ultimate aims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 19/12/2018 at 2:02 PM, Mana said: While I prefer someone with a bigger name... Wilson is still better than Morata and Giroud put together. Real talk. So if he joins us, I'll be a little sad but it's still an upgrade. I know what you mean but it's not about the size of the name, it's about the quality of the player. I'm pretty sure you, me and everyone here agrees with that. Where the size of the name comes in is that the big names are the players we've heard of, and are therefore the ones we can identify as desirable targets. There is lots of proof season after season however, that there are good players out there currently flying under the radar as far as most football fans are concerned. They should not be off the radar of our club however. We have a big budget to spend on scouting and information gathering. If we don't have enough pull to attract the young, big name players. If we can't afford their price tags, even if we could persuade them to join, then we simply have to up our game in the under the radar market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 04/01/2019 at 5:10 PM, BlueLyon said: The club is beyond stupid if they go after those two for 50m. 50m man. We are in dire need for new striker, but thing is we should rather pay 100m on someone who is actualy top instead of forking 50m on those average ones and then splash 50m in summer again. Will the club realise that paying big on average players is the worst possible solution? Either pay huge and get actual quality or go for bargains, hope it works. If reports are true, Pool is looking after Werner who might cost only 40m, yet we will end up with someone crappier and pay more. There have already been many posts following this one (lot's of them by me ), and there will be many more I'm sure, but BL's comment says all there is to say on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The scenes here if Wilson is the only Callum at our club in February......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Chelsea warned £50m strike target will not be sold at any price https://www.teamtalk.com/news/chelsea-warned-50m-strike-target-will-not-be-sold-at-any-price Some good news for anti-Callum supporters i guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Thank God. This lot in the board room need to sort themselves right out. I mean FFS come on. Vardy, Wilson, higuain etc. Surely be to Christ we have someone on scouting duties somewhere who can identify better, long term strikers? I mean if they don't want to pay the 100 mill for icardi then fine but constantly coming up with these 'make do strikers'is pointless. Falcao,pato, Ba, Remy now one of this lot. Bring them in, loan them out again after 18 months, repeat! It's one of the most glaringly poor positions in this team. Why try and mend it for a few months when there are players out there to be bought. Clubs a joke at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Bournemouth put £75m price tag on striker Callum Wilson and demand Chelsea pay 25 times his initial cost to pull off January signing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6586347/Bournemouth-75m-price-tag-striker-Callum-Wilson.html Chelsea transfer EXCLUSIVE: Bournemouth willing to sell Callum Wilson for staggering fee BOURNEMOUTH want £75m to sell striker Callum Wilson to Chelsea. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/753220/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Callum-Wilson-Bournemouth-Exclusive-Rumours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Good. Done. next! Next as in Piątek and Jovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Bournemouth put £75m price tag on striker Callum Wilson and demand Chelsea pay 25 times his initial cost to pull off January signing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6586347/Bournemouth-75m-price-tag-striker-Callum-Wilson.html Chelsea transfer EXCLUSIVE: Bournemouth willing to sell Callum Wilson for staggering fee BOURNEMOUTH want £75m to sell striker Callum Wilson to Chelsea. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/753220/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Callum-Wilson-Bournemouth-Exclusive-Rumours Swap him for Willian, Morata and Alonso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, BlueLion. said: Swap him for Willian, Morata and Alonso? Mate II wouldn't need to be asked too many times to agree but why rip them off? We could try to sell them and buy him. But then nobody has asked to buy Morata. They all want to loan him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Clearly he's not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Unionjack said: Mate II wouldn't need to be asked too many times to agree but why rip them off? We could try to sell them and buy him. But then nobody has asked to buy Morata. They all want to loan him. Let's posit that this summer we buy him (say for £60m) For £60m we get only 2 full years out of him until he hits 30yo. BAD business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: Let's posit that this summer we buy him (say for £60m) For £60m we get only 2 full years out of him until he hits 30yo. BAD business. Twats want £75!! Talk to me about GH players being overpriced!! ALMOST as bad as how much my record collections worth! Mind you I'm not complaining! 50 minutes ago, kc_blue said: Clearly he's not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Twats want £75!! Talk to me about GH players being overpriced!! ALMOST as bad as how much my record collections worth! Mind you I'm not complaining! I was lowering the price to make it clear that even at £15m less than they are asking it's a bad deal. Not to mention as one ages, knee injuries (which he had a massive one) tend to have a nasty habit of popping back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Twats want £75!! Talk to me about GH players being overpriced!! ALMOST as bad as how much my record collections worth! Mind you I'm not complaining! Before this year, the most top flight goals he scored was 8 ffs. He is injured now. Stuck on nine. Is this what £75m buys now??? And people freak out over my suggestions about Jovic and Piatek, who will both score 20 plus league goals at 21 and 23yo and probably cost £20 or £25m less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vesper said: And people freak out over my suggestions about Jovic and Piatek, who will both score 20 plus league goals at 21 and 23yo and probably cost £20 or £25m less. No foresight. Peeps go on about us using yoof but give them great options and ...... Weird/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Chelsea are prepared to pay £50million for Bournemouth's Callum Wilson, according to Sky sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Vesper said: Before this year, the most top flight goals he scored was 8 ffs. He is injured now. Stuck on nine. Is this what £75m buys now??? And people freak out over my suggestions about Jovic and Piatek, who will both score 20 plus league goals at 21 and 23yo and probably cost £20 or £25m less. No one here freaks out about that. Would be completely sensible..but for Chelsea amd most english clubs the mentality is"Kostet nix kann nix" as we say in German.."if a player is not super expensive he must be shit." So we rather pay 50m for am average yet "proven" player than 30m for an up and coming one that might not stand the pressure. With Morata we managed to combine both downsides in one deal tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 It's great that Bournemouth are pricing us out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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