Krzysztof Piatek

[the wes 7,212]

11 hours ago, Vesper said:

Chelsea lead race for £57m striker sensation – but there’s a catch

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/paper-talk-chelsea-lead-race-for-57m-serie-a-sensation-but-theres-a-catch-one-in-one-out-in-220m-man-city-deals

CHELSEA LEAD PIATEK CHARGE

Chelsea have been told they can win the race to sign Krzysztof Piatek – but there appears to be a couple of catches.

The Genoa striker has been in sensational form in Serie A this season, scoring 13 goals in eight games across all competitions.

That has led to speculation suggesting Roma and Liverpool were keen to sign him – while on Tuesday Napoli claimed they had opened talks over a €40m deal.

But reports in Italy, via the Daily Express, claim Genoa could now demand up to €65m (£57m) for the striker – a fee only Chelsea are willing to match.

Furthermore, Genoa have told interested parties there is no chance of doing a deal for the striker in January and any sale of Piatek must be put on hold until summer 2019.

With Olivier Giroud yet to score a goal and Alvaro Morata’s confidence vulnerable, Maurizio Sarri is thought to have earmarked the 23-year-old as a prime target for the Blues.

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We need to do this deal in January if it doesn't happen I'm afraid his price tag is going to shoot up in the summer 

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, the wes said:

We need to do this deal in January if it doesn't happen I'm afraid his price tag is going to shoot up in the summer 

But there's no guarantee he is the real deal. Last thing we need is another striker who flops! 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

But there's no guarantee he is the real deal. Last thing we need is another striker who flops! 

We can always sell. 

I'm sure we can get rid of Morata, Bats and company. 

Worth a shot me thinks. 

[LAM09 7,062]

But there's no guarantee he is the real deal. Last thing we need is another striker who flops! 

He wouldn't cost £70m, so it's a much smaller risk unless Sarri actually sees anything in Michy. 

 

A lot could change by next summer, though.

 

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, LAM09 said:

He wouldn't cost £70m, so it's a much smaller risk unless Sarri actually sees anything in Michy. 

A lot could change by next summer, though.

Who's to say he won't cost a fortune in January? If he keeps his form going, Genoa would surely put a big price tag on him, especially if the other big clubs are interested in him as well. 

[LAM09 7,062]

Who's to say he won't cost a fortune in January? If he keeps his form going, Genoa would surely put a big price tag on him, especially if the other big clubs are interested in him as well. 

The article said they won't sell till the summer. I'm sure Genoa would grab the chance to 10x their investment in just over six months too.

[akgw13 867]

These guys will want to move him in January. Genoa have nothing to play for and have a young juve striker stud on loan sitting behind him. Will be a bidding war, i think the cap for him will be 50-55m Euro that someone will be realistically willing to pay. Napoli wont go that high, Inter has Icardi/Martinez. I think IF we really are interested it will be between us and Barca. We have the #9 spot open, misfiring strikers, and a coach/team build to help him succeed. If we do think he is the real deal I can't see anyone beating our package of willingness to pay and fit for the player.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He plays Juve, Milan, Inter and Napoli in next 20 days. Even if he bangs a goal against each, it wont matter that much because right now he is in crazy form and no one knows how will he recover when he hits a bust for few games (and he will like any other striker).

But as of now, he scored against some realy realy average teams and that means almost next to nothing.

Let him have a full season, then we shall see. If the price is anything above 50m in summer, avoid in big circle. Not worth the risk for a player with just one good season (Belotti, SMS are good examples).

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

On 18.10.2018 at 11:37 PM, BlueLyon said:

He plays Juve, Milan, Inter and Napoli in next 20 days. Even if he bangs a goal against each, it wont matter that much because right now he is in crazy form and no one knows how will he recover when he hits a bust for few games (and he will like any other striker).

But as of now, he scored against some realy realy average teams and that means almost next to nothing.

Let him have a full season, then we shall see. If the price is anything above 50m in summer, avoid in big circle. Not worth the risk for a player with just one good season (Belotti, SMS are good examples).

I remember bas Dost scored like 14 goals in 9 games or so twice in his career and he still is an average striker. There are no really world class strikers available so there are huges prizes quoted for the in-form decent ones. I would say stick to Giroud until some true quality becomes available.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

10 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I remember bas Dost scored like 14 goals in 9 games or so twice in his career and he still is an average striker. There are no really world class strikers available so there are huges prizes quoted for the in-form decent ones. I would say stick to Giroud until some true quality becomes available.

Our attack aside from Hazard is dire. Realy cant score or create anything. But you are right, options are bad. Bunch of unproven strikers, we would have to hit a lottery to get one that creates difference.

But perhaps a RW like Bailey or Inaki Williams who can score would ease the situation. 

[the wes 7,212]

A lot of guys on this forum are banging on about Piatek could be Just having one good season and isnt proven yet but I'll rather have him than Morata 

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, the wes said:

A lot of guys on this forum are banging on about Piatek could be Just having one good season and isnt proven yet but I'll rather have him than Morata 

Wanting an unproven player over Morata just because he couldn't be any worse isn't really a wise way in solving our striker problem, is it? 

[LAM09 7,062]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Wanting an unproven player over Morata just because he couldn't be any worse isn't really a wise way in solving our striker problem, is it? 

We need obtainable options for Jan at this point, as Top 4 might even be in jeopardy with our failure to kill off games.

[Vesper 30,219]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

We need obtainable options for Jan at this point, as Top 4 might even be in jeopardy with our failure to kill off games.

Genoa will not sell him in January I fear. They have officially stated this and the amount of money to get them to change their mind will be insanely high to take a gamble on Piątek I am afraid (probably £60m or more).

Our options are really poor at this point.

stopgap measures

Anthony Modeste, 30yo, in China cashing in, sign him for 2 years. In 2016-17 he was an absolute BEAST for Köln (who got relegated as soon as he left), 34 goals in 43 games, all comps, ands 25 of those were Bundesliga league goals

Edin Dzeko Roma, 33 in March though so at mosat (if a January buy) I would give is until June 2021, his contract is up in June 2020, so we could get him on a free in summer, but that doesn't help us this year

Edinson Cavani  (PSG will never sell him in January though) BY FAR the best of the over 30 somethings, I would love to see him here for a year and half or 2 and half whilst we sort it out long term out long term, big issue is PSG will NOT sell him cheaply, even at 32yo (which he turns in February)

Bas Dost of Sporting  turns 30 in May, scores a shit tonne ( 71 goals in last 2 years, all comps) in Liga NOS, is a giant, 1.96m

Finally the truly INSANE play

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

He can still score like a motherfucker, he is certainly capable of playing with us until at least end of 2021

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Genoa will not sell him in January I fear. They have officially stated this and the amount of money to get them to change their mind will be insanely high to take a gamble on Piątek I am afraid (probably £60m or more).

Our options are really poor at this point.

stopgap measures

Anthony Modeste, 30yo, in China cashing in, sign him for 2 years. In 2016-17 he was an absolute BEAST for Köln (who got relegated as soon as he left), 34 goals in 43 games, all comps, ands 25 of those were Bundesliga league goals

Edin Dzeko Roma, 33 in March though so at mosat (if a January buy) I would give is until June 2021, his contract is up in June 2020, so we could get him on a free in summer, but that doesn't help us this year

Edinson Cavani  (PSG will never sell him in January though) BY FAR the best of the over 30 somethings, I would love to see him here for a year and half or 2 and half whilst we sort it out long term out long term, big issue is PSG will NOT sell him cheaply, even at 32yo (which he turns in February)

Bas Dost of Sporting  turns 30 in May, scores a shit tonne ( 71 goals in last 2 years, all comps) in Liga NOS, is a giant, 1.96m

Finally the truly INSANE play

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

He can still score like a motherfucker, he is certainly capable of playing with us until at least end of 2021

bas dost has a release clause of 60m and as i said is bang average and has only scored tons i minow leagues like.

Cavan is unobtainable I guess.

 

Modeste has always been a nice option. I was really sick we did not buy aubameyang back when we had the chance and modeste would have been my second choice from those former bundesliga strikers who shined consistently.

Ibrahimovic would surely be fun bu ti am nt sure he can still do it in a top league. Would be a great treble tho having all 3 great strikers of their era, Drogba, Etoo and Ibra under contract at some point even tho only one in his prime.

[LAM09 7,062]

Genoa will not sell him in January I fear. They have officially stated this and the amount of money to get them to change their mind will be insanely high to take a gamble on Piątek I am afraid (probably £60m or more).

Our options are really poor at this point.

stopgap measures

Anthony Modeste, 30yo, in China cashing in, sign him for 2 years. In 2016-17 he was an absolute BEAST for Köln (who got relegated as soon as he left), 34 goals in 43 games, all comps, ands 25 of those were Bundesliga league goals

Edin Dzeko Roma, 33 in March though so at mosat (if a January buy) I would give is until June 2021, his contract is up in June 2020, so we could get him on a free in summer, but that doesn't help us this year

Edinson Cavani  (PSG will never sell him in January though) BY FAR the best of the over 30 somethings, I would love to see him here for a year and half or 2 and half whilst we sort it out long term out long term, big issue is PSG will NOT sell him cheaply, even at 32yo (which he turns in February)

Bas Dost of Sporting  turns 30 in May, scores a shit tonne ( 71 goals in last 2 years, all comps) in Liga NOS, is a giant, 1.96m

Finally the truly INSANE play

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

He can still score like a motherfucker, he is certainly capable of playing with us until at least end of 2021

 

There are a number of supposed lesser targets that would be available and could interchange if needed. N.Pepe should be at the top of our list and someone like Haller could do a job.

 

We need players that are ready now but also have room for improvement at the highest level, instead of more stopgaps.

 

[Vesper 30,219]

39 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

There are a number of supposed lesser targets that would be available and could interchange if needed. N.Pepe should be at the top of our list and someone like Haller could do a job.

 

We need players that are ready now but also have room for improvement at the highest level, instead of more stopgaps.

 

Nicolas Pépé is a RW, not a true striker at all.

In terms of  25yo and younger Bundesliga strikers, I would rate (not counting Lewa and Werner as they are insanely expensive, and Lewa is 30yo)

 

no real order

Luka Jovic also of Eintracht Frankfurt    <<<<< superb young CF potentially 

Lucas Alario of Bayer Leverkusen <<<probably the most 'ready'

Alassane Plea of Borussia Mönchengladbach

Jean-Kévin Augustin of RB Leipzig

Maximilian Philipp of Dortmund

and maybe, maybe Davie Selke of Hertha

above Sébastien Haller atm

Matheus Cunha, 19yo on RB Leipzig is also one to watch

MD8's Man of the Matchday: Luka Jovic pulls ahead of Robert Lewandowski and Gerd Müller for goals per minute in the Bundesliga

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/luka-jovic-enters-history-books-with-5-goal-haul-for-frankfurt-vs-fortuna-515470.jsp

It's rare enough for a professional footballer to notch an elite-level hat-trick, but scoring five goals in a single game is a truly extraordinary achievement, as Eintracht Frankfurt's Luka Jovic discovered in his side's 7-1 demolition of Fortuna Düsseldorf on Matchday 8.

"Of course, I'm delighted," a breathless Jovic told Frankfurt's official website, after becoming the first Eagles player to register a five-goal haul in the Bundesliga. "It's been an emotional day. But it's not about my five goals – the team put in a sensational performance."

Jovic's heroics not only took him joint-top of the Bundesliga scoring charts with seven goals - level with Borussia Dortmund's Paco Alcacer - but also saw him improve his top-flight tally to 15 strikes in just 28 outings. With a goal every 82 minutes, he now has a better goals-to-minutes ratio than legendary strikers Gerd Müller (105) and Robert Lewandowski (112), and even holds the all-time record for a player with at least 25 appearances.

Adi Hütter's side began to carve Fortuna open with surgical precision midway through the first half, as Sebastien Haller put them ahead from the penalty spot. Jovic then set the tone for his sublime evening with a Goal of the Month contender: the excellent Filip Kostic whipped in a cross from the left, and the young Serbian twisted acrobatically in mid-air before volleying past the helpless Michael Rensing for 2-0.

[LAM09 7,062]

Nicolas Pépé is a RW, not a true striker at all.

In terms of Bundesliga strikers, I would rate (not counting Lewa and Werner)

 

no real order

Luka Jovic also of Eintracht Frankfurt     Lucas Alario of Bayer Leverkusen Alassane Plea of Borussia Mönchengladbach

Jean-Kévin Augustin of RB Leipzig

and maybe, maybe Davie Selke of Hertha

above Sébastien Haller atm

 

MD8's Man of the Matchday: Luka Jovic pulls ahead of Robert Lewandowski and Gerd Müller for goals per minute in the Bundesliga

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/luka-jovic-enters-history-books-with-5-goal-haul-for-frankfurt-vs-fortuna-515470.jsp

It's rare enough for a professional footballer to notch an elite-level hat-trick, but scoring five goals in a single game is a truly extraordinary achievement, as Eintracht Frankfurt's Luka Jovic discovered in his side's 7-1 demolition of Fortuna Düsseldorf on Matchday 8.

"Of course, I'm delighted," a breathless Jovic told Frankfurt's official website, after becoming the first Eagles player to register a five-goal haul in the Bundesliga. "It's been an emotional day. But it's not about my five goals – the team put in a sensational performance."

Jovic's heroics not only took him joint-top of the Bundesliga scoring charts with seven goals - level with Borussia Dortmund's Paco Alcacer - but also saw him improve his top-flight tally to 15 strikes in just 28 outings. With a goal every 82 minutes, he now has a better goals-to-minutes ratio than legendary strikers Gerd Müller (105) and Robert Lewandowski (112), and even holds the all-time record for a player with at least 25 appearances.

Adi Hütter's side began to carve Fortuna open with surgical precision midway through the first half, as Sebastien Haller put them ahead from the penalty spot. Jovic then set the tone for his sublime evening with a Goal of the Month contender: the excellent Filip Kostic whipped in a cross from the left, and the young Serbian twisted acrobatically in mid-air before volleying past the helpless Michael Rensing for 2-0.

 

A true striker isn't needed in Sarri's system as was evident at Napoli. I'm not going to jump on the Jovic bandwagon after one exception game against relegation candidates.

 

Plea is the only one you mentioned could do a job, but he isn't someone that could lead a line Imo.

 

[Vesper 30,219]

41 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

A true striker isn't needed in Sarri's system as was evident at Napoli. I'm not going to jump on the Jovic bandwagon after one exception game against relegation candidates.

 

Plea is the only one you mentioned could do a job, but he isn't someone that could lead a line Imo.

 

I was only listing the Bundesliga remotely possible (and ones with potential) candidates.

Everyone here knows I really only want Dybala or Icardi (game winner again tonight in 92nd minute of Milan derby).

Piątek, IF he keeps up wonder-form would be third choice, but still a huge gamble, and IF he scores 30 plus goals, his price in summer will be insane.

Jovic would be a great buy now, as he does have the pitential and he wouldn't cost crazy money at all. At some point a team (if we refuse to drop truly WC striker money) has to roll the dice on buying very young players would do exhibit WC potential. 

Only other option is to buy ageing stopgap players.

Well, 3rd option is to roll with Morata and Giroud and very likely get pipped out of the top 4 and certainly not win the EL.

Bye bye Hazard for sure then.

[the wes 7,212]

40 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

A true striker isn't needed in Sarri's system as was evident at Napoli. I'm not going to jump on the Jovic bandwagon after one exception game against relegation candidates.

 

Plea is the only one you mentioned could do a job, but he isn't someone that could lead a line Imo.

 

Timo Werner would be a good option for striker he's Direct, pacy, purposeful and with a nose for goal