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3 minutes ago, manpe said:

Of course it doesn't tell the whole story, I generally don't care about stats much except ones that matter. I'm not a fan of his, would rather have someone more mobile and more adventurous in forward passing. But it does tell that he's not as bad as he's portrayed by many fans, you would think he's Bakayoko level hopeless reading some of the stuff on the internet... well if he was, we would have lost much more.

Well sure. If you look at just this season, then stats do look great but less so if you look at the overall stats since he's been here. I don't see what Jorginho has done this season, whenever he's played, that is different from past seasons. 

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Part of me desperately want to see the people suffer a meltdown over Jorginho had he gone to Man City and done well under Guardiola. Those same fellas who are criticizing now would be the same ones ba

I'm fuckin ashamed at peeps booing Jorgi. Call themselves supporters. Why the fuck does he get singled out when all the other cunts play shit useless too? Such selective memories of some! I'm gon

He’s made the most forward passes in the PL so this is rubbish. Open up your mind, expand your football knowledge. Learn the regista role and what it’s meant to do, it’s function in a team. 

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Our top scorers in the league this season:

Abraham - 6 goals (all non-penalties)

Jorginho - 6 goals (all penalties!)

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19 minutes ago, Jason said:

Our top scorers in the league this season:

Abraham - 6 goals (all non-penalties)

Jorginho - 6 goals (all penalties!)

After 28 games! Crazy stat. 

I think Willian last season did better than all our attacking players this season. 

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

After 28 games! Crazy stat. 

I think Willian last season did better than all our attacking players this season. 

our top scorer in all comps is Tammy with 12 in just 1500mins, second Oli with 11 in 1100 mins.

Maybe we would score more if we fielded a proper striker instead of werner every game but then again both do not offer much except goals.

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The turn around season this guy is having is unreal. I'll be honest, I didn't rate him at all before Tuchel came, however he has been our most important midfielder. He dictates the tempo, which is very important in Tuchel's system.

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Honestly I still do not rate him. He is just so limited. Maybe i am spoiled having started watching football in the era of the ultimate midfield generals who could do everything Jorginho does with their little toe. But how does a player live on just being able to read the game and execute short passes? i think we would be so much better if we had a proper all-round midfielder in his place.

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20 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Honestly I still do not rate him. He is just so limited. Maybe i am spoiled having started watching football in the era of the ultimate midfield generals who could do everything Jorginho does with their little toe. But how does a player live on just being able to read the game and execute short passes? i think we would be so much better if we had a proper all-round midfielder in his place.

And who you think that would be? 

I love modric and that is what we need, a similar type of player. But I don't know who is in that mold. 

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2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

our top scorer in all comps is Tammy with 12 in just 1500mins, second Oli with 11 in 1100 mins.

Maybe we would score more if we fielded a proper striker instead of werner every game but then again both do not offer much except goals.

Is Werner even competing with Abraham and Giroud for the striker position?

He can play there but we know he's not a classic #9 and now we have Havertz playing as the False 9. So, go figure.

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12 hours ago, Fernando said:

And who you think that would be? 

I love modric and that is what we need, a similar type of player. But I don't know who is in that mold. 

Rice, Locatelli, Camavinga or Zakaria. they can do what Jorginho does and some.

 

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1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

Rice, Locatelli, Camavinga or Zakaria. they can do what Jorginho does and some.

 

Neither Rice nor Zakaria are creative masterminds either like Modric for instance. If he want a Modric type of player, there is only Veratti I can think of that plays on a high level and has, similar creative output. Rice is solid though. Sadly, the level of creative masterminds is decreasing. Sometimes I think Billy and Lewis Bate are more creative than most players lol 

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4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Neither Rice nor Zakaria are creative masterminds either like Modric for instance. If he want a Modric type of player, there is only Veratti I can think of that plays on a high level and has, similar creative output. Rice is solid though. Sadly, the level of creative masterminds is decreasing. Sometimes I think Billy and Lewis Bate are more creative than most players lol 

I did not want a Modric type in the first place but someone wha can roam box to box, hold his position if needed and protect the backline and break the midfield line with passes or dribblings. both, rice and zakaria can do this. a Modric/verrati type would be too similar to kovacic and leave us physically even more exposed.

I have not seen much of Bate, but Billy is the closest thing to Modric we have I guess

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6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I did not want a Modric type in the first place but someone wha can roam box to box, hold his position if needed and protect the backline and break the midfield line with passes or dribblings. both, rice and zakaria can do this. a Modric/verrati type would be too similar to kovacic and leave us physically even more exposed.

I have not seen much of Bate, but Billy is the closest thing to Modric we have I guess

We need a Modric type of player for when teams park the bus. I agree with Veratti, that would be the dream signing for me even though he is 28. 

And I have been thinking a lot about Billy as this type of player. We won't know unless Tuchel gives him time and see if he can do what Andrea is doing....altough Andreas has been here a while and is more mature. Billy is just starting with us. 

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5 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Has been regular for Italy so this is really weird. 

Good for us then!

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39 minutes ago, Jason said:

Good for us then!

Yes, it's nice to have our 3 leaders and  30+ players coming rested for the crucial part of the season. Silva, Azpi and Jorginho. 

Mancini said last October that Jorginho is fundamental player for them so I'm sure this is just him resting Jorginho. Maybe he is predicting Chelsea's long run in CL and doesn't want to take any risks. Italy is opening EURO just 13 days after CL final. So now is the best chance for Jorgi to have some days off. 

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