Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[Tomo 21,733]

19 minutes ago, Mana said:

So what you're telling me is if Sarri was appointed before the World Cup and had all that pre-season time....

Morata, Willian, Giroud, Alonso etc. will suddenly become Supermen?

The only thing that could have happened maybe, is that Sarri knew the players he had were shite and pressed the board for new players before the season started. But then, I'm hearing conflicting reports that he isn't the type to press the board for players. So what's the point.

Your 'training time' case, only applies for certain players like Kante, Jorginho, maybe Pedro, Azpi and Luiz. (And the youths if Sarri uses them more!) But you cannot convince me that some donkeys in the starting XI will suddenly become like the next homecoming, especially they were barely even good in the past.

No they won't become supermen but they could maybe have had their flaws somewhat hidden by the system, look at what's happening with Liverpool for example, they are top of the league with Lovren, Shaqiri and Henderson (probably even more flawed than the guys you mentioned) playing significant minutes.

[Vesper 28,968]

 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

 

Ouch

[Unionjack 7,531]

12 hours ago, Tomo said:

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

Agree to alot  and of course a proper pre season makes a big difference and changing out style 100% is a major thing.

But we have seen from a early time upto Shitty that theres been times we have IMO played great attacking football and that his way of playing works against the likes of Shitty and Victimpool/

We just dont seem to have the ability to remember - or put into practice - what we do from week to week.

And I'll say it again theres something missing in our players character - or THE TEAMS character. We dont have that urge to win. OK we have been real unluckyy and we would be much better with a overhaul, but till we get into the players heads the song will remain the same (Set you up @Fulham Broadway =D)

[Unionjack 7,531]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Handbags!

Slight dig at some of our managers.

[Fulham Broadway 16,896]

3 hours ago, Unionjack said:

the song will remain the same (Set you up @Fulham Broadway =D)

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[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

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hahaha You nutter!

[Fulham Broadway 16,896]

We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

[Fulham Broadway 16,896]

9 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

Two striking options is ideal, but would settle for one atm. A target man which would take defenders away from Hazard, Willian etc.

Have the feeling they will sort it this month, but it depends who it is. We don't want a Morata mk 2.

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

[killer1257 3,282]

22 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

Our coaches are at fault. CHO played a world class pre season.He destroyed Inter and Arsenal and he was our best player against Manchester City. What did Sarri then do? He put a fucking Moses in front of CHO, so CHO could not get any play time anymore. Fucking Moses. This says a lot about the mentatlity of our coaches.

[manpe 10,861]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Well damn, shots fired  It says a lot when our former youth coach says this.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Jody is just saying how it is. Chelsea and Chelsea managers in particular have been exceptionally bad at integrating youth into the first team and everyone on the planet knows this. No need to sugar coat it

[Fulham Broadway 16,896]

It's nothing new though. all our managers have done the same -this winds up a lot of fans  ''play da fucken yoof !''. 

it must be the boards agenda to play 'ready made' articles. With CHO and others they look at invoices profit/loss, loan potential revenue. This is always a priority consideration against success on the pitch.

[Laylabelle 9,370]

And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,896]

11 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage.

Well there is if they're loaned out and make a profit. It's business.

[Jase 43,479]

38 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believing that they will make a difference etc.