Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

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13 minutes ago, manpe said:

 

 

At 11:10 he talks about Alonso vs. Emerson and he brings out that we could have trouble in set-pieces without Alonso... So what do we think about that? How valid reason is it?

Not a valid reason, Barcelona play Alba there, Spain won the world cup with a team of midgets, besides Emerson is not a midget. 

[Vesper 30,127]

4 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

IMO Chelsea 2004-09, United 1999 and 2008, Arsenal Invincibles would wipe the floor with this city lot. Probably Liverpool at their peak too. 

What people dont see is how shit City is in europe. They might do well in england, because their depth due to crazy money is insane. Only one that cant be replaced are Ederson and Fernandinho. They have like two strong 11s. Just crazy depth quality. Its not that hard then to win vs burnleys with ease. Secondly, top teams in pl are far from great. Liverpool is only one that is in some decent shape and they have given city a spanking before. In CL though, city is nothing special. 

When we had strong squad (or United), semifinals were constantly there. City struggles because in europe, teams are actualy strong and tacticaly apt, Guardiola doesnt have plan b and he will get smacked in knockout stages again. 

The PL is far from great. Its true however that City is probably most consistent team in PL history. But put them in 2005, they might win all games against smaller sides (something we or united got burned sometimes) but they would also lose to all england top 4 teams in 2005. 

I am far more bullish on Shitty than you. You say they are shit in Europe and that they feed off of a weak EPL, BUT Pep has only had on real bite at the apple in the CL and that was last year. Victimpool knocked them out AND went on to go all the way to the final, AND are from what you claim is a 'weak' EPL. I disagree that the EPL is weak, it is the toughest league in the world ATM. Barca and Real for decades simply get to coast domestically (with AM recently giving them a run) so dont have to burn out squads in the league games. Same for Bayern, and even more so for PSG. Juve to a point too, but Serie A is the second toughest league in the world (strictly my opinion and you could ague against that based off of Juve utter dominance).

Shitty is not just good due to depth. They have SUPERB players (whether you like them or not)

Ederson (I only rate Oblak as better, and maybe I will change mind)

Laporte (with Varane in a hge slump amd Umtiti injured, he is absolutely in top 5 current CB's in the world)

Mendy (when healthy top 5 LB, easily)

Walker (top 5 in wolrd RB)

Fernandinho (if he was 4,5 years young would be in top 5 DMF in world, thsi (no great depth, as they have NO other true DMF on the team, which they really need to address with either buying Nevers of de Jong) is their potential Achilles heel, if he goes down injured)

AMF  DeBruyne, best in the world (when healthy) plus crazy depth including David Silva

LW Sane (top 5 in world)

RW/LW Sterling top 5 in world

RW/AMF Bernardo Silva  also top 5 in world plus Mahrez

CF  TWO of the top 7 or 8 in world in the cunt Aguero and then Jesus

They are LOADED, I fancy them to win the CL this year (main comp will be Barca and Juve, maybe PSG) Bayern and Real are totally struggling, but still dangerous.

so, en toto, we completely disagree

I also, a few months ago went into who their targets would be (or should be) in the transfer market (as long as they and PSG are not banned) to take them to a clear number one in the world

the main 4 would be

CB de Ligt  or Dayot Upamecano or Pavard (can play RB as well)

DH DMF Neves

LB Junior Firpo or Lucas Hernández (can play CB as well

CMF Frenkie de Jong (can play anyhwere in MF and also CB as well)

I also think they someday make a move for Mbappe (within 3 or 4 years)

 

add those (even without Mbappe) they are clear number one team in world, with the clear number one manager in charge

put Mbappe in as the CF, you are talking all-time top 5 club team in football history

I absolutely believe that

they would have top 5 in world at every position and multiple bests in world (Ederson by then, De Bruyne, Mbappe (best overall player on planet, certainly by then), Sane (as Neymar and Eden age out) and if they get him de Ligt (I rate de Ligt as best CB in world within 3, 4 years)

 

 

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

 

 

At 11:10 he talks about Alonso vs. Emerson and he brings out that we could have trouble in set-pieces without Alonso... So what do we think about that? How valid reason is it?

Jose, is that you?

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43 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jose, is that you?

Those quotes are shocking considering it means he will play an out of form player 3 times in a week because of his height. 

[manpe 10,861]

40 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said:

Those quotes are shocking considering it means he will play an out of form player 3 times in a week because of his height. 

I'm also not a fan of some of his defeatist comments either, that he doesn't know how to defeat Pep and how it's impossible to win City over the course of a season. They may be light-hearted comments, but there is truth behind them and does a struggling unconfident squad need to hear their manager publicly preparing them for loss and kinda admitting he's clueless? I just find it a bit odd.

[El P. 1,354]

Jose Mourinho had Filipe Luis (top 7 left-backs at the time) and he still played Ivanović. But this from Sarri is still not very good. He mention set-pieces... What set pieces, who is gonna score those from Man City? They have no tall players...

One thing is for sure to me - if Emerson should have got a chance, it should have been against weaker opposition, regardless of set pieces. With their possession being about  30%, who cares? How many set pieces can they get? Wolves were really the perfect chance to give Emerson the chance.

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Seems like he's going down a similar route to our previous managers with his stubbornness & obvious favouritism.

 

This sort of shit shouldn't happen and selection ought to be solely based on form only.

 

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I like Sarri and his football style/philosophy, but if he insists on playing Alonso because of his height at setpieces, he can feck off. 

What year are we living? 

I mean, I understood Conte or Mou need super solid defence, because 70% of the time, we defended. So their excuses with Iva or anyone else actualy made some sense, albeit outdated. But Sarri is exact opposite, attacking minded manager and he must understand fullbacks quality going forward is more important than being tall to defend setpieces. Take example having lets say Grimaldo who is almost #10 in LB spot would greatly benefit our creativity, ball circulation, width etc. 

Why dont we play 3 defensive mids in middle then? They would surely help defending setpieces and counters better than Jorginho. 

Shit man, sometimes I seriously dont get some managers. They just dig their own grave. 

[manpe 10,861]

10 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why dont we play 3 defensive mids in middle then? They would surely help defending setpieces

How? Our defensive mids are not tall nor strong. Our only strong players are our CBs and Giroud if he's playing. But I agree, I thought we were past that archaic height and strength fetish and are moving towards modern football. Guess not, fear seems to be clouding Sarri's judgement at the moment considering his reluctance to play youth and persistance with shit players. This also explains why he has no qualms over playing Emerson in games outside EPL fixtures, EPL is surely more physical and demanding, but fuck me are you telling me our team is so weak in set-pieces that we still need to put out Alonso against teams we have 70% possession against, just to defend against a couple of corners/fks they might get? The few set-pieces we'd concede would be compensated by the advantages Emerson would bring in attack.

When are we gonna get a manager who has a set of balls?

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11574147/sarri-eyeing-january-signing

Maurizio Sarri says he is keen to bring in a new signing in the January transfer window, but has warned spending money will not solve Chelsea's problems.

[manpe 10,861]

18 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11574147/sarri-eyeing-january-signing

Maurizio Sarri says he is keen to bring in a new signing in the January transfer window, but has warned spending money will not solve Chelsea's problems.

Please be a striker. We have every other position covered except striker, where we have only backup quality. Problem being there will probably be nobody of required quality available. Don't think we will buy anyone and it's maybe for the best, we need to sign the right ones, not random stopgaps.

[Vesper 30,127]

8 minutes ago, manpe said:

We have every other position covered except striker, where we have only backup quality.

I dont think so, lolol

we are so fucked at multiple positions (one CB (asshat Luiz), both fullbacks (sorry but Azpi has been shit on offence and Alonso is SHAMBOLIC, Sarri is the one having blackouts) RW (disaster when that cunt Willian plays, and Pedrois constntly banged up), and even where we have good player (or even great in Kante's case) such as Kovavcic, we are playing both of them out of position or they are back to injuryville (Barkley)

[manpe 10,861]

38 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I dont think so, lolol

we are so fucked at multiple positions (one CB (asshat Luiz), both fullbacks (sorry but Azpi has been shit on offence and Alonso is SHAMBOLIC, Sarri is the one having blackouts) RW (disaster when that cunt Willian plays, and Pedrois constntly banged up), and even where we have good player (or even great in Kante's case) such as Kovavcic, we are playing both of them out of position or they are back to injuryville (Barkley)

You know what I mean my sweet lady, Luiz can be replaced by Christensen or Ampadu, Alonso by Emerson, Azpi by Zappa (James when back from loan), RW we have Pedro and CHO. It's Sarri's business that he doesn't utilise those players as much, fact is we have some adequate squad depth in those positions. But at striker we have literally nobody we can take seriously, we can only choose between bad and worse/dumb and dumber. Giroud is okay for backup, Morata okay for kiddie playground games... who else? Nobody. Bats when back from loan? He's shit, not the answer. Tammy Abraham? If we want to sink deep into mid-table obscurity.

Striker is our nr. 1 pressing issue in my not-so-humble opinion.

[Vesper 30,127]

31 minutes ago, manpe said:

You know what I mean my sweet lady, Luiz can be replaced by Christensen or Ampadu, Alonso by Emerson, Azpi by Zappa (James when back from loan), RW we have Pedro and CHO. It's Sarri's business that he doesn't utilise those players as much, fact is we have some adequate squad depth in those positions. But at striker we have literally nobody we can take seriously, we can only choose between bad and worse/dumb and dumber. Giroud is okay for backup, Morata okay for kiddie playground games... who else? Nobody. Bats when back from loan? He's shit, not the answer. Tammy Abraham? If we want to sink deep into mid-table obscurity.

Striker is our nr. 1 pressing issue in my not-so-humble opinion.

Oh, I agree striker is the worst, but literally ALL those other have to be addressed or there is zero chance we become a top 4 every year team again

especially with Hazard walking very soon

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

I'm officially Sarri out, fuck this chainsmoking arrogant fool