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Today has clearly showed the bar which Chelsea must work towards reaching. At this moment we are pretty far away but the overreaction today on this forum is incredible. Sarri has been at the club

The decline in performances is a lot down to one thing, The lack of training pitch time. He is coming in, trying to teach the squad a totally different brand of football to what the players are a

I'm telling you now, to all the SarriOut supporters.... you don't know how lucky we are to have a humble manager like Sarri... a man with principle, passion, an expansive free flowing footballing phil

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Lets sign a coach that was a sacked because he failed to achieve the goal. 

Id much rather stick with Sarri or get a promising manager from Ajax, Pochettino,...

Also big no on Simeone. They guy is past time, as is Mourinho.

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10 hours ago, communicate said:

I think after next season he need to go. Too much animosity from the fans. It is better for both parties. 

We need to go back and hire somebody like simeone, it will suit everyone better. We will have instant success because we are back to our old identity. 

 

 

 

I would love Simone....you will see instant impact. He is Chels matarial, he will understand Chelsea.

7 hours ago, DDA said:

Fuck the old identity. I want to play like City and Liverpool. Parking the bus is boring as fuck.

Fuck the old identity...really? Its what made us so feard, its what gave us so many trophies, so many memories. Everyone were scared of us. The fans love that way of playing. Lets not go op with it, its not like we defended and defended for our lives every damn game........we were just solid as a unit when needed. Direct fast footy......give me that anyday over this endless tippy tappy bs....imo.

 

“Sarri wont talk to another team whilst he’s focused on the Europa League final. Maybe after the final he might”.

- Alfredo Pedulla

Maurizio Sarri is close to saying ‘yes’ to joining AC Milan.

- @Sport_Mediaset

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3 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Lets sign a coach that was a sacked because he failed to achieve the goal. 

Id much rather stick with Sarri or get a promising manager from Ajax, Pochettino,...

Also big no on Simeone. They guy is past time, as is Mourinho.

He is nowjere near past his best. Look at his team, its a far cry from past seasons. They at least look organized, have tactics in place, and give all for him. Simone would suit us and EPL imo.

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did anyone here who wants allegri watched juventus in this years cl? they were abysmal with that kind of squad.

he would be crucified here if he left a player like dybala on the bench for the most important games

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1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

He is nowjere near past his best. Look at his team, its a far cry from past seasons. They at least look organized, have tactics in place, and give all for him. Simone would suit us and EPL imo.

Simeone might do well for a season or two here aka Conte, but then the problems would reappear and we are back to square one except like always with even lower standards. 

He is defensive oriented manager. All 8 teams in european semis have played attacking football which is the absolute way to go. Simeone did decent, but his style is a thing of the past as is tiki taka. 

Its time for attacking, pressing and direct football.

I loved Chelsea park the bus era, but IMO that would never work as good today as it did back then. We need to go with modern time and stick with attacking football. Be it under Sarri or someone else. 

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3 minutes ago, whats happening said:

did anyone here who wants allegri watched juventus in this years cl? they were abysmal with that kind of squad.

he would be crucified here if he left a player like dybala on the bench for the most important games

No manager is perfect man.....no manager will deliver season after season. That Juve squad isnt all that anymore imo......they did well the past seasons though, very well.

 

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2 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Simeone might do well for a season or two here aka Conte, but then the problems would reappear and we are back to square one except like always with even lower standards. 

He is defensive oriented manager. All 8 teams in european semis have played attacking football which is the absolute way to go. Simeone did decent, but his style is a thing of the past as is tiki taka. 

Its time for attacking, pressing and direct football.

I loved Chelsea park the bus era, but IMO that would never work as good today as it did back then. We need to go with modern time and stick with attacking football. Be it under Sarri or someone else. 

You can be defensive and still be fast and direct, his AM has shown it countless times. You can easily mix the 2 if the right manager is in. His best AM sides were very identical to some of ours. He would get Chels, and thats a huge start for me.

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Another issie I have with Sarri is his lack of getting stuck. We saw with Lamps the other night celebrating in front of the away fans, hugging all the players and generally being a leader of the celebrations. That kind of passion and encouragement gets the fans on side, and would make the players more likely want to run through walls for the team/ manager.

I am not for one minute saying that this attribute makes Lamps a better manager than Sarri, but how many times have we seen Sarri hug a player after a game, or even go over and clap the away fans?

Obviously there is a lot more to management than just showing a bit of passion, but it obviously helps.

When Conte first came we scored a last minute winner in his first game, and he dived into the crowd to celebrate. It's little things like that that help get the fans onside.

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2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

You can be defensive and still be fast and direct, his AM has shown it countless times. You can easily mix the 2 if the right manager is in. His best AM sides were very identical to some of ours. He would get Chels, and thats a huge start for me.

Luis, Godin, Lucas, Griezmann, Rodri, Juanfran, Partey at the very least all want to leave. 

Maybe its down to Simeone tactics. You can give all to the style he plays for 2, 3 years but then you want a change. 

I dont want another Conte/Mourinho and then go back to square 1, changing half the team, style etc.

Simeone would be good short term solution with his organisation and passion, but soon it would back fire. We need a manager that will support attacking football and grow young players. Sarri did ok, albeit nowhere near perfectly. But he made RLC and Odoi first 11 players which is enough for now. We suck right now and will probably for another year, but then we might actualy have strong young team with players that give a shit for the next 5, 10 years. The club priority should be to continue attacking, pressing football and give youth a serious chance because we actualy have a couple outstanding kids like Odoi, RLC, Mount, Reece, even Tomori, Zouma, Abraham. 

If it wasnt for the injuries, Id celebrate this season like we won a title because after 15+ years we finaly got two youth products being good enough to play in first 11 that could stick here for long time.

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3 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Luis, Godin, Lucas, Griezmann, Rodri, Juanfran, Partey at the very least all want to leave. 

Maybe its down to Simeone tactics. You can give all to the style he plays for 2, 3 years but then you want a change. 

I dont want another Conte/Mourinho and then go back to square 1, changing half the team, style etc.

Simeone would be good short term solution with his organisation and passion, but soon it would back fire. We need a manager that will support attacking football and grow young players. Sarri did ok, albeit nowhere near perfectly. But he made RLC and Odoi first 11 players which is enough for now. We suck right now and will probably for another year, but then we might actualy have strong young team with players that give a shit for the next 5, 10 years. The club priority should be to continue attacking, pressing football and give youth a serious chance because we actualy have a couple outstanding kids like Odoi, RLC, Mount, Reece, even Tomori, Zouma, Abraham. 

If it wasnt for the injuries, Id celebrate this season like we won a title because after 15+ years we finaly got two youth products being good enough to play in first 11 that could stick here for long time.

I just cant see it mate.....Sarri has had plenty of times to show something, he didnt. I rather 3 seasons with the likes of Simone than 3 seasons under Sarri, but hey thats just me. It has nothing to do with his tactics, they will die for him on the field, sometimes the time is either up or you have grown old in footy terms, or just want to try your luck at another club. And if the setup is good, Theres no reason we will land back to Square 1, back the right manager and it will pay its own due....but our club has no such setup, we would rather hariikirii.

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26 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Luis, Godin, Lucas, Griezmann, Rodri, Juanfran, Partey at the very least all want to leave. 

Maybe its down to Simeone tactics. You can give all to the style he plays for 2, 3 years but then you want a change. 

I dont want another Conte/Mourinho and then go back to square 1, changing half the team, style etc.

Simeone would be good short term solution with his organisation and passion, but soon it would back fire. We need a manager that will support attacking football and grow young players. Sarri did ok, albeit nowhere near perfectly. But he made RLC and Odoi first 11 players which is enough for now. We suck right now and will probably for another year, but then we might actualy have strong young team with players that give a shit for the next 5, 10 years. The club priority should be to continue attacking, pressing football and give youth a serious chance because we actualy have a couple outstanding kids like Odoi, RLC, Mount, Reece, even Tomori, Zouma, Abraham. 

If it wasnt for the injuries, Id celebrate this season like we won a title because after 15+ years we finaly got two youth products being good enough to play in first 11 that could stick here for long time.

I personally don't know whether Sarri is the best man but I do like Sarri. I don't know who is available  that is better for us to transition to a more front footed approach. 

Defensively we are absolutely atrocious. Jorginho as lone holder is a nightmare. It is funny if not because of last season where kante was very poor as dm, I will suggest playing kante there but teams were letting him have all the ball and his passing was too conservative. 

Offensively we are a mess.

Both of our fb are just bad offensively. Our striker is bad but fixing our fb is imo more important. 

Kante has done well as rcm but he is not really a natural in that role. I did not watch our game vs Frankfurt or Leicester. Did we play better offensively without kante? I always want to know this, because on paper it make sense.

The best part this season for me is our build up. It is so much better especially against press. 

Hopefully I am wrong but I don't think we will get significantly better next season unless we get plenty of good player in our team. 

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1 minute ago, communicate said:

I personally don't know whether Sarri is the best man but I do like Sarri. I don't know who is available  that is better for us to transition to a more front footed approach. 

Defensively we are absolutely atrocious. Jorginho as lone holder is a nightmare. It is funny if not because of last season where kante was very poor as dm, I will suggest playing kante there but teams were letting him have all the ball and his passing was too conservative. 

Offensively we are a mess.

Both of our fb are just bad offensively. Our striker is bad but fixing our fb is imo more important. 

Kante has done well as rcm but he is not really a natural in that role. I did not watch our game vs Frankfurt or Leicester. Did we play better offensively without kante? I always want to know this, because on paper it make sense.

The best part this season for me is our build up. It is so much better especially against press. 

Hopefully I am wrong but I don't think we will get significantly better next season unless we get plenty of good player in our team. 

Id give him another chance, but with two quality fullbacks and striker. Doesnt have to be world class, just hungry and dynamic one in the mould of Firmino.

Odoi and Pulisic on wings, Kante, Jorginho and RLC in the middle. 

But this is impossible next season. Azpi is there for certain and he isnt great in attack, while Odoi/RLC are both out injured.

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33 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I just cant see it mate.....Sarri has had plenty of times to show something, he didnt. 

Your opinion. 

I've seen us play out from the back and retain the ball better than we've ever had, and this is without major upgrades. 

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11 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Id give him another chance, but with two quality fullbacks and striker. Doesnt have to be world class, just hungry and dynamic one in the mould of Firmino.

Odoi and Pulisic on wings, Kante, Jorginho and RLC in the middle. 

But this is impossible next season. Azpi is there for certain and he isnt great in attack, while Odoi/RLC are both out injured.

You have to give him a chance. I always give any manager at least two season unless crazy thing happen during the season. 

I am honestly not sure how to fix our team. It is quite a mess. We should have signed a more physical player instead of Jorginho. 

Did you watch our game va Frankfurt? 

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, communicate said:

You have to give him a chance. I always give any manager at least two season unless crazy thing happen during the season. 

I am honestly not sure how to fix our team. It is quite a mess. We should have signed a more physical player instead of Jorginho. 

Did you watch our game va Frankfurt? 

 

 

 

I actualy liked Jorginho vs Frankfurt despite Im not a fan of him in most games. That said, I think we should have gone for Rodri in the first place. He will be great signing for Pep, basicaly stronger Jorginho.

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2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Your opinion. 

I've seen us play out from the back and retain the ball better than we've ever had, and this is without major upgrades. 

Yeah and we have been attacked often cuz we love to play from the back. And retaining the ball while the opposition knows we cant do fuck all with it so they allow us more to have cuz they know one likely mistake and they are through like a molten knife. Our possession has no purpose so far. The basics aint there. And lets say you are right, thats 2 elements he has done. But utterly neglected many other elements.....theres no balance. If he stays, man does he have alot to improve on.

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4 hours ago, Atomiswave said:
11 hours ago, DDA said:

fuck.

Fuck the old identity...really? Its what made us so feard, its what gave us so many trophies, so many memories. Everyone were scared of us.

I'm getting really tired of this bro. I am trying not to sound like an asshole but football has evolved... parking the bus is for the smaller clubs so that they cam at least compete game by game. If you want to challange the big boys, you can't just rely on defending to save a 1 or 2 nil lead. They have too much firepower now. You have to build a ferocious attack to compete that can pass the ball intelligently. Balh blah blah.. i really can't be assed to point out the obvious. I gwt you have an emtional attachment to the old way... I do. It was thrilling but it just won't cut it against Peps City or Klopps Pool.

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