Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[Laylabelle 9,396]

Don't know what Sarri ball was meant to be but if it's what we're seeing... Lets not do it anymore. Soon as we score we collapse! Just pass pass pass down the other end it goes. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

He's living off that win vs Manchester City right now. Surely nobody is happy with the brand of football we are playing.

[Jase 43,479]

Having a manager like Sarri is making me crave for the 16/17 Conte or pre-2015 Mourinho.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

the football is turgid at times.  Sideways, pass, pass, pass.  I think i can count on one hand amount of times we shoot from outside the box

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

the football is turgid at times.  Sideways, pass, pass, pass.  I think i can count on one hand amount of times we shoot from outside the box

"At times"? You're being generous there.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

thank god we have an attacking coach. couldn't stand those endless 1-0, 2-1, 0-0, 0-1 streaks under Conte and Mou...oh wait.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

35 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

thank god we have an attacking coach. couldn't stand those endless 1-0, 2-1, 0-0, 0-1 streaks under Conte and Mou...oh wait.

I consider Sarri a defensive coach too. He is defending by keeping the ball and passing it sideways all the time. Players have no freedom whatsoecer, apart from maybe Hazard. And he is reduced our best player to being a back flick merchant. 

The football is quite frankly atrocious at the minute. Thank fuck Arsenal are so poor and Mourinho seems to have done us a favour by destroying United, otherwise we would have been out of the top 4. Still every game will be like a final until the end.

[Yeboii 1,844]

6 minutes ago, Bosnian Blue said:

And he is reduced our best player to being a back flick merchant

You mean our best player with 10 goals and 10 assists in half a season?

[dreamcfc 182]

1 hour ago, Bosnian Blue said:

I consider Sarri a defensive coach too. He is defending by keeping the ball and passing it sideways all the time. Players have no freedom whatsoecer, apart from maybe Hazard. And he is reduced our best player to being a back flick merchant. 

The football is quite frankly atrocious at the minute. Thank fuck Arsenal are so poor and Mourinho seems to have done us a favour by destroying United, otherwise we would have been out of the top 4. Still every game will be like a final until the end.

I agree with this to an extent but I do think the result at Spurs made Sarri take a slightly different approach to games, since then we have looked defensively more stable but everything has slowed right down, the games before we met Spurs, we played with a little more tempo and even then Sarri said we were still too slow in his post match interviews, now he doesn't really say much about us needing to play quicker it's more focus on the "defensive phase".

The players do not seem to have freedom because they are stuck to a system of having to be available for possession, Jorginho is a good example but all the players are doing it because it is how they are being coached, there are many times Jorginho could have gone forward to offer something but he will always come backwards so he is available for the pass, I understand there are positives to playing this way but for this to work effectively we need to speed things up. All the players still need to make adjustments to play in this system, even Hazard.

We have too many players who want to hold the ball and dribble etc. As Zola described it, playing in a Sarri team is like an Orchestra, if 1 player isn't doing his job or in the right position the team will suffer.

We can only hope now the mid week games are cooling off that Sarri will have more time on the training ground and sort these things out and get us playing the tempo needed to open up these teams that park the bus.


 

[Blue Armour 4,325]

Hey Sarri, if you're reading this, I think Alonso can use some rest.

At least a little.

Please.

 

[Blue Armour 4,325]

3 minutes ago, dreamcfc said:

I agree with this to an extent but I do think the result at Spurs made Sarri take a slightly different approach to games, since then we have looked defensively more stable but everything has slowed right down, the games before we met Spurs, we played with a little more tempo and even then Sarri said we were still too slow in his post match interviews, now he doesn't really say much about us needing to play quicker it's more focus on the "defensive phase".

The players do not seem to have freedom because they are stuck to a system of having to be available for possession, Jorginho is a good example but all the players are doing it because it is how they are being coached, there are many times Jorginho could have gone forward to offer something but he will always come backwards so he is available for the pass, I understand there are positives to playing this way but for this to work effectively we need to speed things up. All the players still need to make adjustments to play in this system, even Hazard.

We have too many players who want to hold the ball and dribble etc. As Zola described it, playing in a Sarri team is like an Orchestra, if 1 player isn't doing his job or in the right position the team will suffer.

We can only hope now the mid week games are cooling off that Sarri will have more time on the training ground and sort these things out and get us playing the tempo needed to open up these teams that park the bus.


 

 

Interesting that a shift in our attitude happens always after a meeting with Spurs. Happened with Mourinho too.

The poultry has been slowly taking revenge in form or another, ever since we knocked them out of various cup competitions.

 

And agree with your post. Our players slow down when they reach the final third. Dribbling around the box. The problem is when we face a defense like Newcastle in the PL. You can't expect a diminutive winger like Hazard to slug it out against 3 CBs. Same goes for Pedro and Willian. Their best bet is to break out of the lines, like Pedro did for his goal.

In the beginning matches we were playing with a recognized striker and it helped. Now both strikers are shot of confidence and Sarri doesn't have faith in either. We need a new CF

[dreamcfc 182]

10 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

 

Interesting that a shift in our attitude happens always after a meeting with Spurs. Happened with Mourinho too.

The poultry has been slowly taking revenge in form or another, ever since we knocked them out of various cup competitions.

 

And agree with your post. Our players slow down when they reach the final third. Dribbling around the box. The problem is when we face a defense like Newcastle in the PL. You can't expect a diminutive winger like Hazard to slug it out against 3 CBs. Same goes for Pedro and Willian. Their best bet is to break out of the lines, like Pedro did for his goal.

In the beginning matches we were playing with a recognized striker and it helped. Now both strikers are shot of confidence and Sarri doesn't have faith in either. We need a new CF

Yes it is certainly the first thing we need a new ST, even City have problems with teams that sit back but the difference is they have Aguero andmore creativity from their midfielders... ours just want to keep the ball just lately,

I’m not Sarri so I can’t give you the reason why , wether it’s the lack of movement from the front or just the tempo that needs to change but something needs to change that’s for sure.

[Fernando 6,496]

Asked when he expects a Fabregas replacement -- reportedly a straight choice between Zenit St Petersburg midfielder Leandro Paredes and Cagliari star Nicolo Barella -- to arrive, Sarri replied: "I have no idea.

"It's not too much [of a worry for me]. [If] the club is worried, I don't know. The club knows very well my opinion. I need the player there [in that position]. It depends on the club decision, I think. I cannot do anything more."

http://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea/story/3749916/chelseas-sarri-jorginho-trouble-proof-club-need-fabregas-replacement

 

Another manager having to beg the club to do something. 

Why do we keep blaming managers, when managers after managers continue to have the same problem with the board? 

The reason why City and Liverpool are doing well is because they have a board that works with them. 

[Adnane 1,101]

The guy litterally has the best CDM in world football and still whines about how we don't have a replacement for Jorginho.

I don't care if the system will be altered, not being flexible enough has been every sacked Chelsea manager's undoing, he almost cost us 2 points with his stubbornness and predictability yesterday.

I'm all for Champagne football and title contenders in 2 years time, if Sarri is not flexible today he will never get that sort of time, this is Chelsea, not 2015 Liverpool who had been outside of Champions League spots for years bar 2 seasons hence could afford giving Klopp time.

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[Tomo 21,733]

58 minutes ago, Adnane said:

The guy litterally has the best CDM in world football and still whines about how we don't have a replacement for Jorginho.
 

Kante is not and has never been a CDM.

He has played in that role six times during his time in England and things like this happened.

Look at the gaping space he left in his position by pressing up field.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

45 minutes ago, Adnane said:

The guy litterally has the best CDM in world football and still whines about how we don't have a replacement for Jorginho.

I don't care if the system will be altered, not being flexible enough has been every sacked Chelsea manager's undoing, he almost cost us 2 points with his stubbornness and predictability yesterday.

I'm all for Champagne football and title contenders in 2 years time, if Sarri is not flexible today he will never get that sort of time, this is Chelsea, not 2015 Liverpool who had been outside of Champions League spots for years bar 2 seasons hence could afford giving Klopp time.

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Even if we put Kante to CDM, who's the playmaker when Jorginho has a bad game? Barkley? Yeah no. We need a playmaker, whether he plays CDM or CM isn't relevant

[Jase 43,479]

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[Laylabelle 9,396]

9 hours ago, Fernando said:

Asked when he expects a Fabregas replacement -- reportedly a straight choice between Zenit St Petersburg midfielder Leandro Paredes and Cagliari star Nicolo Barella -- to arrive, Sarri replied: "I have no idea.

"It's not too much [of a worry for me]. [If] the club is worried, I don't know. The club knows very well my opinion. I need the player there [in that position]. It depends on the club decision, I think. I cannot do anything more."

http://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea/story/3749916/chelseas-sarri-jorginho-trouble-proof-club-need-fabregas-replacement

 

Another manager having to beg the club to do something. 

Why do we keep blaming managers, when managers after managers continue to have the same problem with the board? 

The reason why City and Liverpool are doing well is because they have a board that works with them. 

It's crazy! This is why don't expect much from summer. If previous ones or stories to go by its players identified by manager... Board piss around and end up with not that.

Plus its a well known fact now. So if he does get sacked and we end up looking again anyone who comes will know there's a lack of support transfer wise. 

Hopefully be different but from sounds. Worrying. 

Still no excuse for playing the same currently dodgy players and not changing things when it's obvious how it's going