Jump to content
Join Talk Chelsea and join in with the discussions! Click Here

20. Callum Hudson-Odoi


The Skipper
 Share
Followers 11

Recommended Posts

33 minutes ago, Mana said:

“He’s ready”

 

Remember for the majority of this season, CHO wasn’t even called up in the 18-man squad for matches.

 

CHO wants to play. He only played like 10 minutes in the last 4 Chelsea matches.

 

It’s not good enough from Sarri. He doesn’t like CHO and prefers Willian.

 

That is why I do not blame CHO for what he’s doing. He wants to play, not be a benchwarmer for Willian.

 

And deluded people here saying Bayern is going to do the same thing benching him. Even though they are breaking their transfer record with this guy.

Ribery, Robben, Coman, Gnabry, even James and Thomas Muller can all play in those wide positions.

James didnt even get a start most weeks in any of those 3 attacking positions behind the CF at the start of the season. They are breaking the bank because the markets inflated and we rate Callum very highly, much higher than what City rated Sancho only selling him for 7m obviously, or they didnt expect him to do so well so fast. 

If CHO isnt willing to wait to the summer to try break ahead of Pedro and Willian, why move to Bayern in January to be stuck behind at least 4 much more senior players (Ribery, Robbem, Coman, Gnabry - all good in their own regard and better than Callum for sure) as well as their new signing Davies who arrived from the MLS. Throw in Muller and James who can operate on both sides too if needed if there was say a massive injury crisis. Going now makes no sense, in the summer makes more sense because Ribery and Robben both probably wont be there. 

Even then if he goes now or in the summer, he wont go to Bayern and start instantly every week,l because regardless of how stupid this club can be, if your good enough to start for Bayern Munich, youd simply be starting here. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 3.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Marcos Alonso to Hudson-Odoi: “Bayern Munich? We are Chelsea, another great team, the Premier League is the most competitive league in the world, I don’t know why someone would go to Bayern Munich” Ha

Callum Hudson-Odoi has more assists in 59 minutes than Willian has since October.

At last a manager speaking clearly, straight and not dodging questions.  

Posted Images

5 minutes ago, LAM09 said:
15 minutes ago, Mana said:
Bayern are breaking the bank. CHO will definitely be playing more minutes. Even if CHO turns out to be shite in the end. Look what we did with our failed players like Torres, Morata and co.

He is cheaper than most options on the market, so fee has little relevance in the discussion.

It does have relevance. I’ll say this again: THEY ARE BREAKING THE BANK. This is not an ordinary transfer for them. They want CHO badly that they are willing to do this.

4 minutes ago, the wes said:

But Martial didn't put in a transfer request ? Let him go there's a cracking talent called Nicolas Pépé who dreams of playing for Chelsea sign him and get rid off a player who doesn't want to be here 

The ONLY reason why it didn’t go that far because Mourinho didn’t make it til January. But he was clearly upset with Mourinho and wanted to go by rejecting the contract extension.

Link to post
Share on other sites



It does have relevance. I’ll say this again: THEY ARE BREAKING THE BANK. This is not an ordinary transfer for them. They want CHO badly that they are willing to do this.


He's the cheapest option on the market for their needs. Barca just spent €75m+ for a 19 year old and Bayern don't work that way.

The move makes logical sense for them. They aren't going to match it with the big boys, so this is the next best thing. Quite straightforward
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Mana said:

It does have relevance. I’ll say this again: THEY ARE BREAKING THE BANK. This is not an ordinary transfer for them. They want CHO badly that they are willing to do this.

The ONLY reason why it didn’t go that far because Mourinho didn’t make it til January. But he was clearly upset with Mourinho and wanted to go by rejecting the contract extension.

What's a point keeping a player who's put in a transfer request let him go he's doesn't want to be here 

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Ribery, Robben, Coman, Gnabry, even James and Thomas Muller can all play in those wide positions.

Ribery and Robben are old players. They are on their last legs. I’ll get to James below and Muller himself isn’t doing good lately.

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

James didnt even get a start most weeks in any of those 3 attacking positions behind the CF at the start of the season.

When James arrived, Ribery and Robben were at their prime. Now they are not. That’s the difference.

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

They are breaking the bank because the markets inflated and we rate Callum very highly, much higher than what City rated Sancho only selling him for 7m obviously, or they didnt expect him to do so well so fast. 

But they are still willing to break the bank and take CHO off us. If Bayern didn’t rate CHO that high, they wouldn’t have bothered. City don’t need Sancho and City didn’t bother putting up a fight to keep him.

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

If CHO isnt willing to wait to the summer to try break ahead of Pedro and Willian, why move to Bayern in January to be stuck behind at least 4 much more senior players (Ribery, Robbem, Coman, Gnabry - all good in their own regard and better than Callum for sure) as well as their new signing Davies who arrived from the MLS. Throw in Muller and James who can operate on both sides too if needed if there was say a massive injury crisis. Going now makes no sense, in the summer makes more sense because Ribery and Robben both probably wont be there. 

Gnabry? That Arsenal reject? Please. CHO will be playing ahead of that guy. Coman, never heard of him until you mentioned him...probably a good reason.

Sarri isn’t going to play CHO anymore, unless Willian and Pedro BOTH get an injury. It’s clear what Sarri is doing. CHO just wants to play more games and it looks like Bayern are promising him that. If he continues to grow in Bayern, he will be one of their key players to come. We all see the potential of this guy.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, LAM09 said:


 

 


He's the cheapest option on the market for their needs. Barca just spent €75m+ for a 19 year old and Bayern don't work that way.

The move makes logical sense for them. They aren't going to match it with the big boys, so this is the next best thing. Quite straightforward

 

Yes, CHO is the next big target. And they are doing all they can to take him off us. Even if that includes breaking the bank. They don’t have to break the bank for him, especially if they don’t have big plans for him nor see any potential.  

Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Mana said:

Ribery and Robben are old players. They are on their last legs. I’ll get to James below and Muller himself isn’t doing good lately.

When James arrived, Ribery and Robben were at their prime. Now they are not. That’s the difference.

But they are still willing to break the bank and take CHO off us. If Bayern didn’t rate CHO that high, they wouldn’t have bothered. City don’t need Sancho and City didn’t bother putting up a fight to keep him.

Gnabry? That Arsenal reject? Please. CHO will be playing ahead of that guy. Coman, never heard of him until you mentioned him...probably a good reason.

Sarri isn’t going to play CHO anymore, unless Willian and Pedro BOTH get an injury. It’s clear what Sarri is doing. CHO just wants to play more games and it looks like Bayern are promising him that. If he continues to grow in Bayern, he will be one of their key players to come. We all see the potential of this guy.

Theres on their last legs but have been 2 of Bayerns better players this season... as they have been for years... while being in there 30s... James arrived like a year ago in the summer when Ancelotti was there. They are hardly that much older now 😂

Gnabry the Arsenal reject, who Bayern tapped up and signed him off Werder 6 months after they bpught him off Arsenal on the cheap as they wouldnt sell to Bayern directly. Arsenal reject yes but just like Salah and de Bruyne the Chelsea rejects? Dont be so arrogant to assume CHO is better just because their willing to smash their transfer record for him. Gnabry is a German international, who was excellent at Hoffeinheim last season scoring 10 goals in 22 gamss. Theres no doubting CHOs potential yes but hed effectively be 4th or 5th choice to start with. 

Never heard of Kingsley Coman? Won league titles with PSG, Juventus and Bayern before age of 21. Has fallen off the wagon a bit since Pep left Bayern but the talent there is frightening and there is glimpses every now and then. Was considered one of the best young players not long ago before Mbappe burst on the scene and still plenty time to show it. Fully fit his pace is a real asset.

Likes of Muller etc have struggled but Bayern have struggled as a whole this season. When Bayern play well Muller is always in about scoring or making goals. For such a rounded but hardly outstanding player he has had a huge impact at club and country level.

Sarri not playing CHO every week isnt an issue for me, I doubted hed start every week but most games I expected to see him get 25-30 mis or so off the bench, particularly if we needed to get back into a game. Again a January move to Bayern seems odd. Summer yes 100% makes more sense but January mot so much. Leipzig would be better for him at this moment in time. Dortmund wouldnt even be a good move at the moment for CHO.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope we don't see him back in years to come at a rival club. 

It didn't make sense to say he needs game experience and then not play him. If he sees future elsewhere then that's his choice. Just seemed like had so much wasted potential. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

I hope we don't see him back in years to come at a rival club. 

It didn't make sense to say he needs game experience and then not play him. If he sees future elsewhere then that's his choice. Just seemed like had so much wasted potential. 

he did get his minutes tho and will get them tomorrow too i guess.

he really is one impatient little rat. I think he good decent enough playing time so far and will get more and more. But for 35m which is 20m plus add-ons we should rather let him rot. Either bayern forks in 40m+ or he can kiss his career goodbye.

and i doubt we will see him at a rival club. Bayern don't sell and if they do only after they have made sure the player is washed up. 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Ribery, Robben, Coman, Gnabry, even James and Thomas Muller can all play in those wide positions.

James didnt even get a start most weeks in any of those 3 attacking positions behind the CF at the start of the season. They are breaking the bank because the markets inflated and we rate Callum very highly, much higher than what City rated Sancho only selling him for 7m obviously, or they didnt expect him to do so well so fast. 

If CHO isnt willing to wait to the summer to try break ahead of Pedro and Willian, why move to Bayern in January to be stuck behind at least 4 much more senior players (Ribery, Robbem, Coman, Gnabry - all good in their own regard and better than Callum for sure) as well as their new signing Davies who arrived from the MLS. Throw in Muller and James who can operate on both sides too if needed if there was say a massive injury crisis. Going now makes no sense, in the summer makes more sense because Ribery and Robben both probably wont be there. 

Even then if he goes now or in the summer, he wont go to Bayern and start instantly every week,l because regardless of how stupid this club can be, if your good enough to start for Bayern Munich, youd simply be starting here. 

Ribery, Robben, and James are all gone this summer, (we should have a stab! trade CHO for James via paying James £39.5m buy option from Real, which they have said they will NOT do already) so he would be served best waiting till then.

He will end up playing his less-favoured RW is my prediction, as they will have ZERO true RWers

Thomas Müller, as you said, could play there, but it is not his strength

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

he did get his minutes tho and will get them tomorrow too i guess.

he really is one impatient little rat. I think he good decent enough playing time so far and will get more and more. But for 35m which is 20m plus add-ons we should rather let him rot. Either bayern forks in 40m+ or he can kiss his career goodbye.

and i doubt we will see him at a rival club. Bayern don't sell and if they do only after they have made sure the player is washed up. 

He didnt get shit until Bayern wanted him, and soon as he committed to us Sarri would put him on the bench again behind willian and pedro because he knows if he doesnt win anything he will be sacked.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, DDA said:

Just get rid of the little prick. Sick to the stomach of reading this bullshit in the news. Go play for the Germans and let's sign Bailey or someone.

Tbh I get him. Sarri doesnt play him in single important match, then he says he is on par with Pedro and Willian (which was bs just to keep him here), plays him a game and then again drops him to the bench with 5min cameos if that. Meanwhile he plays Willian. 

Did anyone see just how shit Willian was vs spuds? Got to about 10 touches on the ball and fucked up every single time. Bad pass, dribbling and losing ball, shot in the stands.

But thing is its not that Cho didnt play much YET. Thing is he wont play for a long time. The club just loves crap "proven" players ahead of young, driven, exciting talents.

It will be massive shame and if it was another club, I would blame the player for not being loyal enough, but Chelsea and youth is one big bullshit. Cant blame him if he goes, he sees it like De Bruyne and Salah did (not our youth, but still young talents back then)

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Robchels said:

Back to youth team for a year and a half and move on. Use it as a deterrent for similar behavior in the future.

Don't get bullied by a kid, his agent, or another club.

Maybe we should start taking these kids seriously as part of the club future and not a fucking profit factory. 

MAYBE then they will give a shit.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Maybe we should start taking these kids seriously as part of the club future and not a fucking profit factory. 

MAYBE then they will give a shit.

Right, but we really can't. And it's not just the fact that all our managers are constantly under pressure.

The transition for 18yo players is very difficult at this level. That's why the vast majority of them make the jump from 18 to, well playable, in smaller teams and in weaker leagues.

The club certainly has some funny business model, prob attached to some very peculiar requirements, but this is one thing I find it hard to fault the club.

In all likelihood, Odoi is still a couple/few years away from actually being able to influence matches.

Either way, this ship has sailed. Now we can either take the (very little) money or make a point.

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, mccg said:

Sky Sports reporter delivers update on Callum Hudson-Odoi at Chelsea FC

https://www.thesportreview.com/2019/01/chelsea-fc-latest-news-callum-hudson-odoi-bayern-munich/

Post transfer request change-abouts are a tough slog.:(

Link to post
Share on other sites

I can understand the view that he should have been given more opportunities when players have under-performed, etc but as a just turned 18 year old playing for one of the top 10 teams in world football I actually think he has had sufficient minutes so far this season on the face of things. I'd be interested to know how many other players at his age at the top teams have played similar or more minutes.

I am also confident that if he stays here he would play a fair amount more minutes until the end of the season and could well at the end of the season be looking at 20-25 appearances across all competitions. For his age I think that's pretty damn good and shows a completely different position to Chelsea's way in the past.

IF this is purely about game time then I believe it is less risky for the club to keep him and prove to him that he can play here. It is becoming increasingly likely that Hazard will leave and CHO has the chance of taking that spot if he continues to establish himself amongst the team and squad this season. I'd have no problem lining up with CHO and Pulisic as our wide men next season if we're making a conscious effort to rebuild this team. Raw pace, raw talent, very direct style of play. If he is given increased playing time over the next 18 months and the opportunities to establish himself as first choice then I see no reason else why he would want to leave. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...