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19 minutes ago, Tomo said:

So our five games against United since Mount became a full member of our squad he's only started in two.

But he's an untouchable apparently. 

What a weird stat you found to use.

Last season only Azpi played more minutes of all Chelsea players. And if we had just a solid LB, Azpi would played less because he needed to cover that position so that would put Mount to number one.

This season from 9 games we played, him, Kai and Timo are only players who participated in 8. And Kai overall played just 20 minutes more.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

What a weird stat you found to use.

Last season only Azpi played more minutes of all Chelsea players. And if we had just a solid LB, Azpi would played less because he needed to cover that position so that would put Mount to number one.

This season from 9 games we played, him, Kai and Timo are only players who participated in 8. And Kai overall played just 20 minutes more.

 

 

But if he was the managers love child (or whatever go to phrase is being used this week) surely he wouldn't constantly get benched for these games, no?

And it's not just United. He's started only 1 in 2 vs City, 3 in 5 vs Liverpool (and hauled off in one of said starts), 2 in 3 vs Arsenal, was also benched for the last two CL group games last year when qualification was at stake and not to mention hauled off at half time twice in quick succession after the restart. 

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Mason Mount a victim of the lack of live fans as cowardly trolls swoop

 

The Telegraph

Wednesday October 28 2020

Matt Law's Chelsea briefing

 
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Mason Mount is one of Chelsea’s own - the fans, along with the club, have a responsibility to look after him

By Matt Law,
Football News Correspondent

Pre-Covid, the online trolls were just that, online trolls. But with no football fans inside stadiums, the opinions of those who like to use social media to abuse and ridicule have, unfortunately, become harder to block out.

Which brings this column around to Mason Mount, a player the majority of Chelsea fans admire and cherish, given he has been at the club’s academy since the age of six.

The support he received from the Stamford Bridge stands would have been more than enough to drown out the so-called supporters, who hide behind their laptops and direct hatred towards the 21-year-old on Twitter.

But with every week that passes and stadiums remain shut, the backing from the stands becomes harder and harder for footballers to recall, particularly young ones who are still in the early stages of their senior careers.

Just think, for instance, how Mount’s superb free-kick goal against Wolverhampton Wanderers that helped to clinch Champions League qualification would have been received at the end of last season? It would no doubt have been one of his career highlights, but those moments are easier for the trolls to drown out, when there were no fans inside the stadium to recall the celebrations.

Mount is in danger of becoming a victim of the lack of live fans, as the online trolls attempt to seize their moment. Still aged only 21, he made a total of 53 appearances for Chelsea in his first season as a senior player for the club, scored eight goals, one of which came in the FA Cup semi-final success against Manchester United, and he was rewarded with international recognition.

The statistics-based website whoscored.com also included Mount in an under-21 team of the season based on players’ average ratings, with only five players of his age-range scoring better than him.

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Mount was recently rewarded with international recognition aged only 21

Mount was perhaps the player Lampard leaned on most for much of last term, playing him in several different positions and barely giving him a rest, so it is perhaps no surprise that he has yet to produce his best form this season.

Nobody, especially Lampard and Mount, expect anybody to be given a free pass at Chelsea and they will accept constructive criticism over where he has been asked to play and some of his performances.

But Mount, just like Harry Kane at Tottenham Hotspur, Jack Grealish at Aston Villa, Trent Alexander-Arnold at Liverpool and Phil Foden at Manchester City, is one of Chelsea’s own, and the fans, together with the club, have a responsibility to look after him.

It was with genuine horror that this correspondent read through some of the replies to Chelsea’s Twitter account teasing the announcement of the team for Saturday’s game against Manchester United.

This column will not give the trolls any further oxygen by repeating any of the messages, but one could only hope that Mount and his family were far too focussed on the forthcoming game to be scrolling down Twitter or typing in a search on his name.

Mount and his family will no doubt realise that most of the supporters who will flood back into Stamford Bridge when coronavirus guidelines allow it and those who make weekly sacrifices to their personal lives to tune in from overseas remain fully behind the midfielder.

But the abuse is not going unnoticed, as Lampard himself made reference to the accusations that Mount is in some way his favourite by relating it to his own experiences at West Ham United when Harry Redknapp was famously forced to defend his nephew at a fans’ forum.

Sitting in front of a room full of middle-aged men, supping pints of lager in their ill-fitting leisure wear, questioning his selection cannot have been easy for Lampard and yet Redknapp was able to shout back them, unlike the faceless cowards who are sitting in front of their screens to target Mount.

And not one of them will be brave enough to make themselves known the next time Mount comes up with a vital goal.

As ever, feel free to get in touch at @Matt_Law_DT or via [email protected].

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He will still play a lot but now he will finally have status he deserves.

He was way overplayed last season.

This season first 5 games Mount played: 90, 90, 90, 90, 90. 

Last 5 games: 0, 72, 62, 18, 19. 

This is something I can accept. Also all the hate for him will disappear because no one has anything against him, people were just annoyed because of the way Frank treated him.

As shown again today, he had no business starting over CHO as a winger. He is not a winger, he is not a AM. Number 8 is his best position so if we do move to 4-3-3 again he would play more and be more effective.

But what about Kai? He is best in the final third of the pitch and number 8 is not really his position. Ziyech would be good there too.

 

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8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

He will still play a lot but now he will finally have status he deserves.

He was way overplayed last season.

This season first 5 games Mount played: 90, 90, 90, 90, 90. 

Last 5 games: 0, 72, 62, 18, 19. 

This is something I can accept. Also all the hate for him will disappear because no one has anything against him, people were just annoyed because of the way Frank treated him.

As shown again today, he had no business starting over CHO as a winger. He is not a winger, he is not a AM. Number 8 is his best position so if we do move to 4-3-3 again he would play more and be more effective.

But what about Kai? He is best in the final third of the pitch and number 8 is not really his position. Ziyech would be good there too.

 

It's gonna have to be 6 - 8 - 10 midfield 3. Kai at the 10, Mount at 8, and for now, Kanté as the 6. 

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True. The reason people started taking the mickey was because FL overplayed him even at LW when we had CHO and then Southgate starts him when Grealish was on form, both reasons were not his fault.

Hopefully the hate and memes of Mount dies down, he seems like a nice fella.

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His best performance in a Chelsea shirt for me. Better than Everton game last season. That's his position and as I said in the other thread, he plays like that consistently he will deservedly be one of the first name on the team sheets for Chelsea and England IMO.

I was critical last season because while he was doing the hard miles running, tackling, intercepting etc you see here today that as an 8 and not a 10/winger, he can affect the game but that other stuff is more crucial to the team in central midfield than it would be out wide or in the 10 position. You don't want your 10/wide player to be getting great stats in those tackling, miles covered, interceptions, duels won etc and not having scored/assisted/created many chances and that was unfortunately the story for him at times last season playing out of position and being kept in the team (rather foolishly) when he was underperforming. 

Keep it up and as I said above, he will be in the team for the foreseeable. He knitted things together so well and he was probably my MOTM by a good bit if I am honest.

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Question is what other role can he play, because he is also not a no. 8 because he can't play world class passes from the deep nor is he a Arturo Vidal type of tackler. If Lampard continues with Mount like that, Lampard will eventually lose his job because he loved Mount too much 
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lol never seen such nonsense... he is a world class prospect at the #8 role and anyone who says otherwise either has a personal agenda against mount or simply doesn’t understand football

Was motm yesterday yet again in his actual position as #8

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I have to admit that I missed him when Havertz was playing on the midfield. Not only Mount is 100% useless on the wings, but right now he is playing better than Havertz. I'm not saying he is a better footballer than Havertz, but right now he is definitely a better fit for the team than Havertz, if we have to choose between the two, and I think this is the case right now, considering the quality we have elsewhere. 

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