NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Milan said: Where would we be without corners... In here, he is called Europe’s 7th most creative player @NikkiCFC https://onefootball.com/en/news/image-mason-mount-ranks-with-europes-top-creators-32091388 I saw this today. And wanted to post it. So 15 chances created after 17 games from open play. Is that good? I never understood this stat. And in the game against Leeds he had like what? 5 or 7 chances created? Obviously if he does not take corners he would be nowhere on this list. I always said that he is good set piece taker. My guess is that majority of this 15 chances created from open play came in 3 games against: Burnley, Leeds and WBA. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 5:07 PM, NikkiCFC said: I saw this today. And wanted to post it. So 15 chances created after 17 games from open play. Is that good? I never understood this stat. And in the game against Leeds he had like what? 5 or 7 chances created? Obviously if he does not take corners he would be nowhere on this list. I always said that he is good set piece taker. My guess is that majority of this 15 chances created from open play came in 3 games against: Burnley, Leeds and WBA. Depends. But you have to remember that you are still talking about a 21 year old player who is nowhere near the finished article. The players ranked above him are far more experienced, including Grealish. Is it good enough for Chelsea, which already has a lightweight attacking midfield? Probably not. But for Mason Mount, I think its good enough at this stage of his career. Its not Mount's fault that we pinned all our hopes on Havertz getting up to speed quickly, and loaned out our only 2 experienced attacking midfielders in Barkley and RLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Blue Armour said: Depends. But you have to remember that you are still talking about a 21 year old player who is nowhere near the finished article. The players ranked above him are far more experienced, including Grealish. Is it good enough for Chelsea, which already has a lightweight attacking midfield? Probably not. But for Mason Mount, I think its good enough at this stage of his career. Its not Mount's fault that we pinned all our hopes on Havertz getting up to speed quickly, and loaned out our only 2 experienced attacking midfielders in Barkley and RLC. Mason mount created that many chances playing as defensive cm, of course that number is good. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, communicate said: Mason mount created that many chances playing as defensive cm, of course that number is good. Stop with this non sense that he is defensive midfielder. He played same position last season or before in Derby. Sometimes AM (Spurs Cup game - his worst game) or winger. Number 8 is the position KDB and David Silva played for City. And according to Sofa Score he created 6 big chances this season. Assuming majority from corners. And this is his heat map: killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 That's pretty good for a 21 year old player working under a manager that has Thou Shall Not Play a Through Ball as one of his 10 commandments. He should be doing more, but until we see more dimensions in how we transition and build up vs ping it wide and cross, I'll reserve judgement. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Stop with this non sense that he is defensive midfielder. He played same position last season or before in Derby. Sometimes AM (Spurs Cup game - his worst game) or winger. Number 8 is the position KDB and David Silva played for City. And according to Sofa Score he created 6 big chances this season. Assuming majority from corners. And this is his heat map: Funny your heatmap show that he play as defensive cm, and if you think he play the same role as silva n kdb then i highly suggest you watch recording of city game. Old city play with two no 10,kinda like how we played last year after the break with Mount and Barkley, this year we play more like pool, two cm more conservative, two wb more aggressive. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 oldportblue, Blue Armour and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Lampards cousin continue to do well. 😀 oldportblue and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Fernando said: Lampards cousin continue to do well. 😀 Recently heard that he has a connection with Tuchel too, on his aunt's side. 😉 oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Jokes aside... Frank was playing Mount when out of form when he certainly shouldn't have been but he fully deserves the starts and praise to go with it of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, DDA said: Jokes aside... Frank was playing Mount when out of form when he certainly shouldn't have been but he fully deserves the starts and praise to go with it of late. Would expect Tuchel to use Mount more intelligently, not just in terms of not overplaying him but also utilize properly tactically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: Would expect Tuchel to use Mount more intelligently, not just in terms of not overplaying him but also utilize properly tactically. I just hope it doesn't jeopardise Havertz starting position. I can see Mount being deployed in an attacking No10 role like we have seen him playing in Tuchels Chelsea thus far. Somehow we need to make Havertz and Mount work in the same lineup without hindering their talents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, DDA said: I just hope it doesn't jeopardise Havertz starting position. I can see Mount being deployed in an attacking No10 role like we have seen him playing in Tuchels Chelsea thus far. Somehow we need to make Havertz and Mount work in the same lineup without hindering their talents. Think Tuchel might try Werner-Havertz-Mount as the front 3 at some point, especially as he doesn't seem to like giving the opposition a focal point to deal with. On a random note, we're just stupidly overloaded with attacking options right now. It's good to have options but there just seems to be too many to keep happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 oldportblue and Hamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,175 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: Think Tuchel might try Werner-Havertz-Mount as the front 3 at some point, especially as he doesn't seem to like giving the opposition a focal point to deal with. On a random note, we're just stupidly overloaded with attacking options right now. It's good to have options but there just seems to be too many to keep happy. 5 hours ago, DDA said: I just hope it doesn't jeopardise Havertz starting position. I can see Mount being deployed in an attacking No10 role like we have seen him playing in Tuchels Chelsea thus far. Somehow we need to make Havertz and Mount work in the same lineup without hindering their talents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Vesper said: would love something like this but it seems tuchel loves the jovacic midfield 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 03/01/2021 at 15:19, R2D2 said: No worries he will soon enough fix his hair on the bench all he wants once his adopted father gets the imminent sack. still a regular starter and the best performer even under tuchel, give me those delicious tears haters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 cc @NikkiCFC oldportblue, NikkiCFC and James 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Jason said: cc @NikkiCFC 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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