!Hazard! 3,394 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Leif said: Every top team we face under Conte I feel like we're playing not to lose instead of to win. 1 exception, only 1, was vs. Man City I think. I feel it was just yesterday when everyone here were complaining about Conte playing Cesc-Kante midfield in big games and many were demanding more defensive midfield lineup. I actually think this midfield allows Alonso and Zappacosta to go forward as much as possible unlike in the game against City where the wingbacks were trapped in defensive positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, !Hazard! said: I feel it was just yesterday when everyone here were complaining about Conte playing Cesc-Kante midfield in big games and many were demanding more defensive midfield lineup. I remember too, but we weren't using a midfield 3 at that time. Ever since we've had 3 (Kante, Fabregas, Bakayoko) in the middle, I don't think Fabregas has had a bad moment. When you have 5 defenders + Kante & Bakayoko, it should be plausible that Fabregas can start in a more advanced role and forget defensive duties. Otherwise, like in this case, we have 2. 2... 2 attacking players. 2! And that's to Liverpool's 4, with their best attackers still to come on no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, milan.cech said: Odds on Oxlade scoring a goal? Him and salah..urgh bound to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Salah is definitely going to score. Oxlade is ass though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Leif said: I remember too, but we weren't using a midfield 3 at that time. Ever since we've had 3 (Kante, Fabregas, Bakayoko) in the middle, I don't think Fabregas has had a bad moment. When you have 5 defenders + Kante & Bakayoko, it should be plausible that Fabregas can start in a more advanced role and forget defensive duties. Otherwise, like in this case, we have 2. 2... 2 attacking players. 2! And that's to Liverpool's 4, with their best attackers still to come on no less. It's going to be a back to the wall type of performance it seems. Conte's rolled out the double-decker for this one. I hope I'm very wrong but it looks we're in for some serious bus parking business. I don't see how Hazard can be the only creative force in the team and expect to do it alone. I fear him and Morata are going to be isolated . Of course I hope I'm very wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Leif said: I remember too, but we weren't using a midfield 3 at that time. Ever since we've had 3 (Kante, Fabregas, Bakayoko) in the middle, I don't think Fabregas has had a bad moment. When you have 5 defenders + Kante & Bakayoko, it should be plausible that Fabregas can start in a more advanced role and forget defensive duties. Otherwise, like in this case, we have 2. 2... 2 attacking players. 2! And that's to Liverpool's 4, with their best attackers still to come on no less. I think you're going way overboard here. We aren't entering games to shut up shop and turn every big match into a turgid shitfest with no attacking intent or quality like we did under Mourinho. This is a perfectly sensible XI. If Cesc hadn't just played against Qarabag I'm sure he'd have started this. While on paper Morata and Hazard are the only two "attackers" we have out there, as you well know Bakayoko, Alonso, Zappacosta, and sometimes even Azpi will all join the attack when we have the ball. Kante often bombs forward now, too. Being solid and fresh in midfield is the most important thing against Liverpool's crazy energy and pressing. Especially at Anfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Simply shut Hazard down with all your men and you have no support for Morata. Don't shut down Hazard, and Hazard himself has no support, needing to create everything for himself. There is no way it can be rationalised that lining up with 2 attacking players is alright. Even if they're weaker players, the likes of Pedro and Willian at least give the opposition something else to think about. Hazard's best when there's chaos - are Drinkwater and Bakayoko going to cause it? I don't think so. Already everything for us is going through Hazard - but who can he pass to? Who can he pass to and receive the ball back from? Nobody consistently; he and we have to pray our other players have the games of their lives to give Hazard the environment he thrives in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Too negative, waiting for them to create something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Sit back and let them apply all the pressure brehs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 When you have one player on the field who enjoys being on the ball for longer than 2 seconds that can be proactive with those seconds, it's a disgrace, it just is. It's a huge problem to have this lack of on-the-ball quality. Everyone but Hazard becomes headless under pressure, thus they just start hoofing it upfield, no different from the last Mourinho era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 BT seem to have odd cameras angles going on Urgh their goal is coming if we carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Within the space of 3 seconds, 2 different players of ours in 2 different positions of the pitch, randomly hoofed it upfield into nowhere because they had no balls to hold the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Bakayoko with the worst pass I've seen inside the box this season. Hazard seconds before, lighting up my heart and making me smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 If passing backwards to a player make sure it's the right one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Where the hell is Moses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Remember, all but 1 of Liverpool's best attacking players are on the bench. And they're outplaying us in every single way. Conte. Got. It. Wrong. Say it with me. Flukey goals withstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The whole point of playing a midfield 3 was to fit Fabregas. Now we play a midfield 3 with Drinkwater, who I believe has never played it before. We sacrifice an additional forward player, for, what exactly? 'Stability' which is clearly not there? I can't remember seeing such an obviously flawed line-up from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Definitely conceding before HT if the momentum doesn't shift a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 First chance for Hazard! QUite close too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Drinkwater doesnt look too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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