Tiemoue Bakayoko

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On December 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, the wes said:

Tiémoué Bakayoko – a reported transfer target for Chelsea - has insisted that while moving to the Premier League would be a “dream” he will not be departing current club Monaco in the coming transfer window
 

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/chelsea-target-bakayoko-i-wont-leave-monaco-in-the-january-transfer-window/863912#48XuChZ6wADqKeZI.99

 

Thats correct. According to this tweet, even though Bakayoko wants to stay at AS Monaco through this season, Chelsea are getting ready to make a sizeable bid for the lad. 

Looks like a phenomenal talent. If we signed Bakayoko and then in 2 years time signed Thiago Maia/Ruben Neves. Our Midfield would be set for a long time. 

 

 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Kante doing the dog work is enough I guess, Chelsea need a Regista next to him, a la Marco Verratti, or a faster Mousa Dembele, someone who can control the game, to complement each other.

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6 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Kante doing the dog work is enough I guess, Chelsea need a Regista next to him, a la Marco Verratti, or a faster Mousa Dembele, someone who can control the game, to complement each other.

What I would give to sign Ruben Neves... 

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are thought to be considering a move for AS Monaco midfielder Tiemoue Bakayoko, according to French newspaper Le Parisien.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

When you watch a game like today, you have to wonder if Bakayoko and Kessie is what we really want next to Kante. 

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21 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

When you watch a game like today, you have to wonder if Bakayoko and Kessie is what we really want next to Kante. 

Definitely. Bakayoko & Fabinho destroyed Spurs midfield with their power and technique.

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3 minutes ago, dkim2 said:

Definitely. Bakayoko & Fabinho destroyed Spurs midfield with their power and technique.

So we need Bakayoko & Fabinho? It was a Spurs reserve team. I watched the game, Bakayoko was hardly the difference between the two sides. It was their fullbacks and Lemar that gave Spurs problems. 

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Bakayoko vs Spurs (Home) 

3 tackles 4 interception 90% Pass success 4 dribbles

Monaco 2:1 Spurs 

 

Bakayoko vs Spurs (Away)

4 tackles 3 interception 90% Pass success 1 dribble

Monaco 2:1 Spurs

 

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2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

So we need Bakayoko & Fabinho? It was a Spurs reserve team. I watched the game, Bakayoko was hardly the difference between the two sides. It was their fullbacks and Lemar that gave Spurs problems. 

Lamela Kane Son
Dier Ali Ericksen
Davies Vertonghen Alderweireld Walker

 

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1137622/Live/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2016-2017-Tottenham-Monaco

 

Fact check. Is this their "reserve" team?

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As much as I love Kante, he cannot handle physical beast like Wanyama who has supreme power and speed. In fact Matic did okay but Kante was totally outmuscled that is the reason why our midfield has been overran during entire game. Remember the days when Matic showdown vs beast Yaya, we need more powerful midfielder for games like this.

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9 minutes ago, dkim2 said:

Lamela Kane Son
Dier Ali Ericksen
Davies Vertonghen Alderweireld Walker

 

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1137622/Live/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2016-2017-Tottenham-Monaco

 

Fact check. Is this their "reserve" team?

Oh please give me a break. Bakayoko was not the decisive factor I was clearly talking about the match in Monaco. Monaco don't play anything like us and don't play our system. Again, if you think Bakayoko is the one that will come in and dictate play from midfield, then I don't know what to say. I think you're one of those that like to be heard for the sake of it.

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1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Oh please give me a break. Bakayoko was not the decisive factor I was clearly talking about the match in Monaco. Monaco don't play anything like us and don't play our system. Again, if you think Bakayoko is the one that will come in and dictate play from midfield, then I don't know what to say. I think you're one of those that like to be heard for the sake of it.

I watched those matches and in both legs Wanyama & Dembele were outplayed by Monaco midfield, unlike our game today when our midfield were dominated by Spurs. Have you seen Conte's interview that Wanyama is the type of player he adores? 

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4 minutes ago, dkim2 said:

I watched those matches and in both legs Wanyama & Dembele were outplayed by Monaco midfield, unlike our game today when our midfield were dominated by Spurs. Have you seen Conte's interview that Wanyama is the type of player he adores? 

Okay, let me state it this way. If you're going to play with Kante in a midfield two and one of the goals is to implement a certain philosophy, i.e build up play, mostly from passing out from defence, you need to pair him with a deep-lying playmaker or at least someone with that skillset. I don't consider Bakayoko a player with that skill-set.  My first post had a clear context from my other posts in the match forum which you were probably unaware of.

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15 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Oh please give me a break. Bakayoko was not the decisive factor I was clearly talking about the match in Monaco. Monaco don't play anything like us and don't play our system. Again, if you think Bakayoko is the one that will come in and dictate play from midfield, then I don't know what to say. I think you're one of those that like to be heard for the sake of it.

And you are seriously misunderstanding type of football Conte wants. He always wanted steel from his midfield. Reason why he used Sturaro for his Italy team, reason why we go for strong players such as Bakayoko, Kessie, Vidal and Nainggolan. None of those players are "playmakers." In Conte's system, midfielder's job is not to dictate tempo of the game. Their main job is to stay back, need to intercept quickly, recover the possession, quickly send passes to side flanks and overlap when needed ,to either shoot from distance or to draw defenders to create space for 5 forwards upfront (2 WBs, LW RW FW) Need to have strong defensive skills to close down to intercept or to delay counterattack, earning time for our wbs to drop down and to reconstruct defensive lines. Ability to shoot from distance is a big bonus. He wants a powerful B2B type to pair with Kante, has supreme energy to sprint for 90 minutes, strong on pressure, not shabby on defensive ends, and can shoot from distance. 

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7 minutes ago, dkim2 said:

And you are seriously misunderstanding type of football Conte wants. He always wanted steel from his midfield. Reason why he used Sturaro for his Italy team, reason why we go for strong players such as Bakayoko, Kessie, Vidal and Nainggolan. None of those players are "playmakers." In Conte's system, midfielder's job is not to dictate tempo of the game. Their main job is to stay back, need to intercept quickly, recover the possession, quickly send passes to side flanks and overlap when needed ,to either shoot from distance or to draw defenders to create space for 5 forwards upfront (2 WBs, LW RW FW) Need to have strong defensive skills to close down to intercept or to delay counterattack, earning time for our wbs to drop down and to reconstruct defensive lines. Ability to shoot from distance is a big bonus. He wants a powerful B2B type to pair with Kante, has supreme energy to sprint for 90 minutes, strong on pressure, not shabby on defensive ends, and can shoot from distance. 

Oh believe me, I definitely understand the type of football Conte wants. I've done a lot of reading about his system and watched a lot of his Juventus team and us obviously. That's not the point. Conte also wants to pass out from the back. In Juventus, he had a deep lying playmaker in Pirlo that was crucial in this aspect. In Chelsea, Fabregas can help us to a certain extent, but we need a central midfielder that can combine both technical and physical aspects. I'm not convinced Bakayoko can do that. Or Nianggolan for that matter. I'll love Vidal, but he's older now and I'm not sure he wants to leave his comfort zone in Bavaria.