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2 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Apparently wants something around Lukaku and Werner's wage.. yikes...

So just putting it out there.. What do you guys think is a fair wage for Rudi? Its max 200 for me...

Even 200k seems high to me, I really dislike players who turn it off and on, like Pogba, when it suits. Due to his age I would say 3 year deal at 175k and typically as we've seen we have a habit of including a year option extension.

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Apparently Rüdiger is pissed that we offered Kounde wages of 6m net of taxes

now he want more than that himself. 

The dwarf is already casting his tiny shadow ahead. 

Few things wrong with this. For one, it was reported by BILD, who know virtually nothing outside of Germany. Two, these pre-contract's are typically non-disclosure until its been finalised. Three, if its reported by BILD Kounde would earn 6 million a year, that is a little over 100K per week when converted from euros to sterling. Why on earth would Rudiger be "Angry" about that when he earns well over that?

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3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Few things wrong with this. For one, it was reported by BILD, who know virtually nothing outside of Germany. Two, these pre-contract's are typically non-disclosure until its been finalised. Three, if its reported by BILD Kounde would earn 6 million a year, that is a little over 100K per week when converted from euros to sterling. Why on earth would Rudiger be "Angry" about that when he earns well over that?

6m euros Net of taxes it’s more like 10m Euros gross which is more like 190k euros gross pw. 

Rüdigers Agent is a small time firm called fsb,  they might well have leaked something to Bild to push his negotiation position, would not be the first time. Would call it a plausible rumour. 

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3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

6m euros Net of taxes it’s more like 10m Euros gross which is more like 190k euros gross pw. 

Rüdigers Agent is a small time firm called fsb,  they might well have leaked something to Bild to push his negotiation position, would not be the first time. Would call it a plausible rumour. 

But that is still less than the 170Kpw the club initially offered him, so I don't understand the whole Rudiger is Angry claims. 

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22 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Few things wrong with this. For one, it was reported by BILD, who know virtually nothing outside of Germany. Two, these pre-contract's are typically non-disclosure until its been finalised. Three, if its reported by BILD Kounde would earn 6 million a year, that is a little over 100K per week when converted from euros to sterling. Why on earth would Rudiger be "Angry" about that when he earns well over that?

6m NET is what the poster said (I assume they are quoting euros)

€12m gross roughly 

£10.3m

So 

€ 231K PW gross

£198K PW gross 

That makes sense as Rudiger is asking for £200K PW at minimum, and we offered £140K PW so far.

Zero chance we go to £400K PW (I have serious doubts other clubs are offering that, as that, in euros, is €24.3 million gross per year. €121.5m over 5 years.)

 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

But that is still less than the 170Kpw the club initially offered him, so I don't understand the whole Rudiger is Angry claims. 

No, not less. That 6m is net. See my post I just did.

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3 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

in no way should the club bow down to Rudiger’s demands or any other player, remember the whole CHO saga?

The irony is everyone complained that if the club didn’t bow down to CHO’s demands we would lose a top player. When he had played 10 or 15 starts.

Now we risk losing an actual top player, who is key to our system and people are sceptical over the club giving him 200k p/w? Not long after giving Christensen a new deal on around 130-140k p/w? 

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39 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

The irony is everyone complained that if the club didn’t bow down to CHO’s demands we would lose a top player. When he had played 10 or 15 starts.

Now we risk losing an actual top player, who is key to our system and people are sceptical over the club giving him 200k p/w? Not long after giving Christensen a new deal on around 130-140k p/w? 

Giving into CHO's wage demands was a mistake and having Chilwell earn 200kpw was also a mistake considering the precedent it is now setting. 

With regards to Rudiger and Christensen, I've always been adamant that the system is suiting the player moreso the player suiting the system. I for one hope the club and Rudiger meet common ground somewhere, but giving him an elite player's wages just isn't logical in my opinion. 

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33 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Giving into CHO's wage demands was a mistake and having Chilwell earn 200kpw was also a mistake considering the precedent it is now setting. 

With regards to Rudiger and Christensen, I've always been adamant that the system is suiting the player moreso the player suiting the system. I for one hope the club and Rudiger meet common ground somewhere, but giving him an elite player's wages just isn't logical in my opinion. 

I dont see why it matters if we give him 200k or not.

It makes much more sense to reward a player with that money when his performances have probably been amongst the best in his position in Europe over the last 7 or 8 months. 

I mean end of the day if one of Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid or someone come in and get him on a free and he goes on and keeps playing well, everyone will just slaughter the board anyway. 

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

I dont see why it matters if we give him 200k or not.

It makes much more sense to reward a player with that money when his performances have probably been amongst the best in his position in Europe over the last 7 or 8 months. 

I mean end of the day if one of Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid or someone come in and get him on a free and he goes on and keeps playing well, everyone will just slaughter the board anyway. 

200k I don't mind. Its the rumors he wants up to 300K, which would make him earn what elite players earn.

We replace him adequately, say with a Bastoni or Lacroix, doubt there will be much fuss. 

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15 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

200k I don't mind. Its the rumors he wants up to 300K, which would make him earn what elite players earn.

We replace him adequately, say with a Bastoni or Lacroix, doubt there will be much fuss. 

Again, rumours, which probably haven’t been helped by the fact Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are all heavily linked and able to offer him between 300-400k a week if you read the papers/websites.  

I mean I have no doubts he wants a wage increase but 300k? Are people really buying that? 

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22 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Again, rumours, which probably haven’t been helped by the fact Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid are all heavily linked and able to offer him between 300-400k a week if you read the papers/websites.  

I mean I have no doubts he wants a wage increase but 300k? Are people really buying that? 

Question, how much would you say is a fair wage for him?

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The top CBs in the PL are around 200K pounds per week plus bonuses. Is Tony better than VVD? I think anything above 200K(ish) plus bonuses and we need to start looking for a replacement.

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