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16 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Gets worse everytime I watch it ffs.....banter fc.

This third goal is absolutely shocking. What did he try to attempt? Clearance? Shocking.

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Rudiger, Zouma, and Ac are all pure shit at this point

NO I do not want to hear defences of Zouma

he is horrid on the ball, clumsy, and makes far far too many mental erros

Zouma as one of our starting CB's is doom as well and he is soon 26, so not like he is going to have years to improve

It is gaslighting to say otherwise

he is not, and never will be Chels quality

all 3 are shit (Tomori is still up in the air)

Rudiger is the most frustrating as he should be by FAR the best we have, he has all the tools, but has been dogshit since his long term injury

beyond pissed

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

Rudiger, Zouma, and Ac are all pure shit at thsi point

NO I do not want to hear defences of Zouma

he is horrid on the ball, clumsy, and makes far far too many mental erros

Zouma as one of our starting CB's is doom as well and he is soon 26, so not like he is going to have years to improve

It is gaslighting to say otherwise

he is not, and never will be Chels quality

all 3 are shit (Tomori is still up in the air)

Rudiger is the most frustrating as he should be by FAR the best we have, he has all the tools, but has been dogshit since his long term injury

beyond pissed

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To be fair, Rudiger has always been rash and had poor positional play. It was one of the reasons I never wanted him in the first place. The past two seasons he only got away with this as he was playing alongside the nations favourite defensive scapegoat David Luiz, so his faults got blamed on him. 

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10 minutes ago, King Kante said:

To be fair, Rudiger has always been rash and had poor positional play. It was one of the reasons I never wanted him in the first place. The past two seasons he only got away with this as he was playing alongside the nations favourite defensive scapegoat David Luiz, so his faults got blamed on him. 

lol, you made me laugh (in a good way)

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as he was playing alongside the nations favourite defensive scapegoat David Luiz,

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He is not wrong though. When you watch the goals we conceded last season, Rüdiger played a big part in that. This is why I said that he is not good enough last season and nobody believed me.
I also did not want him at Chelsea because of his weaknesses. Poor positional awareness, poor technical abilities and poor decision making. His strengths are that he is a good 1 vs 1 defender and his physicality is a big strenght, but that is not enough for being world class. He does not even know how to do an offside trap and you have many examples at Chelsea where he did not do the offside trap, even though he should have done it. He started playing as a CB very late and that is why he can't do the basics right. It is too late now to teach him the basics

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22 hours ago, killer1257 said:

He is not wrong though. When you watch the goals we conceded last season, Rüdiger played a big part in that. This is why I said that he is not good enough last season and nobody believed me.
I also did not want him at Chelsea because of his weaknesses. Poor positional awareness, poor technical abilities and poor decision making. His strengths are that he is a good 1 vs 1 defender and his physicality is a big strenght, but that is not enough for being world class. He does not even know how to do an offside trap and you have many examples at Chelsea where he did not do the offside trap, even though he should have done it. He started playing as a CB very late and that is why he can't do the basics right. It is too late now to teach him the basics

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Rudiger has not had a vintage season but numbers suggest it hasn’t been all bad

https://theathletic.com/1922861/2020/07/12/rudiger-woe-chelsea-sheffield-united/

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At a time when Chelsea’s season will be defined as a success or a failure, the club’s most experienced centre-half finds himself out of the starting line-up and with question marks over his future at Stamford Bridge.

Antonio Rudiger surely never envisaged the possibility of being named on the substitutes’ bench for three successive matches. That was something that had never happened since he joined Chelsea from Roma for an initial £29 million in 2017… until now.

The Germany international has clearly paid a price for Chelsea’s first defeat of Project Restart, when he came under heavy scrutiny for the goals Frank Lampard’s side conceded in their 3-2 defeat at West Ham — since then Kurt Zouma has been named alongside Andreas Christensen in the middle of defence instead.

Rudiger’s unwelcome hat-trick of omissions was completed against Sheffield United on Saturday evening. Yet there was still a chance to catch coach Frank Lampard’s eye for the right reasons when he replaced Christensen for the second half. Unfortunately, the 27-year-old only succeeded in setting up David McGoldrick’s second goal of the evening with what looked like a tame lay-off straight into the forward’s path.

Should Rudiger be blamed for the defeat? Of course not. The damage was inflicted before his introduction at the interval, by which stage Chelsea were already 2-0 down and playing with an inexcusable lethargy given a place in next season’s Champions League is at stake. But with coach Frank Lampard clearly already having one eye on his desired set-up for next season, now is not the time to be making eye-catching blunders. The Chelsea boss suggested as much immediately after full-time as he said rather menacingly: “I learned a lot and I won’t forget that.”

With two years left on his current deal, Rudiger is reaching a significant juncture. It is at moments like these that clubs often decide to either offer a player an extension or sell up in the hope of avoiding big losses should the player run his deal down. After all, not everyone is Eden Hazard (sold for up to £150 million to Real Madrid in 2019 despite having just a year left).

There were reports in April that negotiations between the club and Rudiger’s representatives had begun over a three-year extension, with the option of an additional 12 months. However, sources have told The Athletic that talks are yet to take place and there is no offer on the table.

When you consider this is all occurring amid the backdrop of Chelsea aiming to buy another centre-back, with Declan Rice one of their main targets for the role, then the reality of Rudiger’s current situation shouldn’t be dismissed.

In saying that, The Athletic has been assured the former Stuttgart star and his family are very relaxed about the situation and feel there is no rush to begin a conversation about an agreement. As far as the Germany international is concerned, he is very happy at Stamford Bridge and will do what he perceives to be the right thing for him at the right time.

Lampard also downplayed any suggestions there is an issue between him and his player, telling The Athletic: “He has been very positive (after being dropped), very positive in training.

“I have selection problems, I say this in every press conference, with trying to pick a team out of the squad because of competition within the group. There is no problem with him.”

But having been regarded as a bit of a fan favourite for his first two years in blue, Rudiger has become the subject of intense criticism during 2019-20.

It was something he discussed with Sky Sports earlier this month and it clearly rankles a little bit. He said: “You will always have people (saying things). Football can be up and down. You win and everything is good. You lose, then it’s…

“This is not my problem. Everyone can have their opinion and I’m fine with that.

“It is something we have to deal with. The most important thing is what the coach says, not what is said on the outside. You can have your opinion, no problem, but this doesn’t count to me.

“Fans go with emotions. This week can be like this (he raises his hand upwards), the next week you’re the worst. As players, we just have to keep a cool mind and look forward to the next game.”

But it is not as if he is in complete denial about his form under Lampard either. One shouldn’t forget, he returned from a knee injury which kept him out for five months at Wolves in September, only to suffer a groin problem during the contest and came off at half-time.

Rudiger wasn’t seen in a Chelsea shirt again until December and during the third appearance of his second comeback, complained of being racially abused at Tottenham.

Things obviously haven’t been easy. “The season didn’t start really well for me with all those injuries and everything,” he added on Sky Sports. “Yes I have been back, but I am not looking for an alibi or something. Personally I am not really happy with my season. But I don’t have time to think about that because we have games upcoming. I want to be in the Champions League next season.”

So how bad has it been compared to the two previous years, when the chant ‘Ruuuudi’ was affectionately shouted out by the Chelsea crowd on every occasion he made a strong tackle?

As always statistics only tell part of the story. Memories of the way Rudiger was outjumped for goals by Newcastle’s Isaac Hayden and Manchester United’s Harry Maguire, let alone the McGoldrick assist, will be hard for some to forget.

However, his overall Premier League numbers compare quite favourably with those from previous seasons. This season he has won 80 of 140 duels at an average of 57.1 per cent. His averages in the previous two seasons were 52.9 per cent and 52.5 per cent respectively.

There have been 116 recoveries at a rate of 6.82 per match, the previous two seasons came in at 6.48 and 6.24. For a defender, he has made a surprisingly low 50 tackles in nearly three seasons in English football but this year’s record of winning 61.9 per cent of them is an improvement on the 47.1 per cent of his first season, although is a slight decline on last season’s 67.7 per cent.

There is a suggestion he is more susceptible in the air, but there has been no radical decline over the last three years. He won 60.2 per cent of aerial challenges in 2017-18, 52.5 per cent in 2018-19 and his current return for 2019-20 is 58.1 per cent. There is little difference in the average amount of headed clearances made in a league fixture over the three campaigns either: 1.9, 1.75 and 1.71.  He has also already made more blocks (eight) than the previous season (seven) despite playing a lot less (17 Premier League appearances to 33).

Sometimes spending too long with your head in the numbers can leave you in as much of muddle as Chelsea’s defenders at set pieces, and it paints just a bit of the picture. But it does raise the question of whether Rudiger’s form is as bad as some are suggesting.

Lampard has a lot of tough decisions to make in the short, as well as the long term, to get the squad where he wants it to be.

Rudiger’s situation is one to keep monitoring, but he shouldn’t be written off yet.

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I am sure zouma's numbers are way better. 

No amount of stat padding can cover the absolute fiasco that has been rudiger this season. Should be the first CB to be sold as he has just 2 years on his contract 

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16 minutes ago, whats happening said:

feel bad for rudiger. he's a good player in a rough form now. if he had a wc partner he would be great again.

Well.same can be said about Andreas, zouma, tomori. Infact we have seen it actually happening to the likes of gomez and matip.

Does not mean Rudi should be given that chance. 

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10 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Pretty poor performance tonight. Go as far as saying he was the worst outfield player on the park. 100%. infuriating because he played great v Man United. 

But tbh our CBs have nothing to do with first 3 goals we conceded.

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7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

But tbh our CBs have nothing to do with first 3 goals we conceded.

True but he was just rash all game. Got far too close to Salah and he just would knock it by him or do a one two and run behind. Or rush in and miss the ball completely. Happened far too much. Needs to know when to be a bit more clever anticipating these sort of movements and drop off a bit sooner and when to engage, especially when playing as the left sided centre back in a back 3. Salah wasnt necessarily at his best tonight but he still had Rudiger every time.

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32 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Pretty poor performance tonight. Go as far as saying he was the worst outfield player on the park. 100%. infuriating because he played great v Man United. 

Salah almost ended his career tonight. 
 

He’s been god awful all season. Biggest let down out of our CBs. He’s now getting fundamentals wrong. 
 

 

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I think he would improve a lot with a better defender. 
Not the best in the world but I still think he is the best defender we got. 

Just get rid of Zouma, and Andreas. 

Tomori I like, very good prospect. 

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was an absolute monster defensively today and even pinged a few great long balls
Yes, I agree. But there was one moment where he went into a tackle and completely missed the player and Zouma saved him but apart from that, very good performance. Alonso was also amazing lol

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