calculatingInfinity 1,478 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 21 hours ago, Jason said: I say that Conte being admirer of Drinkwater meant he had to be signed first over anyone else? No. All I said was, if Conte really wanted him, which is what Jim White seemed to be alluding to, then we would have gone for him a lot earlier or at least heard about this interest some time ago. No. No you would not necessarily have heard of it already. I also think it's silly to think Chelsea have not already had contact with Drinkwaters agent and Leicester, even if the press did not know about it, and the bids hadn't started officially until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Get it done shit source. But must ,must ,must be true . Chelsea are set to make a £60million move for Southampton defender Virgil van Dijk to ease Antonio Conte’s frustrations. [Mirror] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It frustrates me that we are always looking to improve our defense and midfield, but do not give a crap about the talent up front. We keep relying on Hazard and on players who already reached their pottential (Willian, Pedro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, Cosmin said: It frustrates me that we are always looking to improve our defense and midfield, but do not give a crap about the talent up front. We keep relying on Hazard and on players who already reached their pottential (Willian, Pedro). I think it is simply because we have a bigger need in midfield and wb area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, communicate said: I think it is simply because we have a bigger need in midfield and wb area Do we? Look at how this team looks when Hazard is not playing or when he's not in the best shape. The attacking wingers are mediocre and there is no alternative for Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, Cosmin said: Do we? Look at how this team looks when Hazard is not playing or when he's not in the best shape. The attacking wingers are mediocre and there is no alternative for Hazard. Of course we do. We don't have hazard yesterday but we still have willian, Musonda, Pedro. They are not close to hazard bu they are serviceable player. But imagine if Alonso is inured, we have to Pedro there, he is not a wb or we play azpi there where he gave us 0 threat going forward. And like yesterday bakayoko is injured. We have to play cesc + Kante against big side and it was a disaster. It was obvious we need wb + 1 mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, communicate said: Of course we do. We don't have hazard yesterday but we still have willian, Musonda, Pedro. They are not close to hazard bu they are serviceable player. But imagine if Alonso is inured, we have to Pedro there, he is not a wb or we play azpi there where he gave us 0 threat going forward. And like yesterday bakayoko is injured. We have to play cesc + Kante against big side and it was a disaster. It was obvious we need wb + 1 mid I agree, but my point is that we are making efforts to bring reinforcements when it comes to WB and midflienders, but there's nothing being done about Hazard's alternative or the attacking wingers. Yes, we do have Willian and Pedro, but these guys (with all due respect) would be bench warmers at Europe's top clubs. Musonda's not really an option when you are aiming for UCL and EPL glory. He's one for the future, but can't count on Charly Musonda to take you to the UCL semi-finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cosmin said: I agree, but my point is that we are making efforts to bring reinforcements when it comes to WB and midflienders, but there's nothing being done about Hazard's alternative or the attacking wingers. Yes, we do have Willian and Pedro, but these guys (with all due respect) would be bench warmers at Europe's top clubs. Musonda's not really an option when you are aiming for UCL and EPL glory. He's one for the future, but can't count on Charly Musonda to take you to the UCL semi-finals. Because those positions are the priority, we don't have unlimited transfer fund. If you use the money to sign a quality winger, we won't have any money left to sign wb + 1 cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, communicate said: Because those positions are the priority That is my problem. Why is paying 60m for Van Dijk (a central defender, where you actually have plenty of options) a priority when your creativity is absolutely ruined if Hazard's not available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cosmin said: That is my problem. Why is paying 60m for Van Dijk (a central defender, where you actually have plenty of options) a priority when your creativity is absolutely ruined if Hazard's not available? Nah va djik is just rumors. I don't see any truth in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Klopp hinted Liverpool don't need a cb http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10977675/jurgen-klopp-satisfied-with-liverpools-defensive-options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Still think he ends up at Liverpool despite Klopp's words. While I'd love him here, I just can't see a scenario now where Cahill is dropped any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Cosmin said: I agree, but my point is that we are making efforts to bring reinforcements when it comes to WB and midflienders, but there's nothing being done about Hazard's alternative or the attacking wingers. Yes, we do have Willian and Pedro, but these guys (with all due respect) would be bench warmers at Europe's top clubs. Musonda's not really an option when you are aiming for UCL and EPL glory. He's one for the future, but can't count on Charly Musonda to take you to the UCL semi-finals. Monaco dislike this post Mbappe, Lemar, Bernardo Silva and other Monaco youngsters had "average" stats before last season, something like Boga did in Ligue 1... and I think Musonda and even Boga have more talent than all of them apart from Mbappe Two quality wingbacks who can walk straight into first eleven, all-around midfielder for rotation and give Musonda&Boga a bigger rotation role upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,516 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Cosmin said: That is my problem. Why is paying 60m for Van Dijk (a central defender, where you actually have plenty of options) a priority when your creativity is absolutely ruined if Hazard's not available? The club has never cared about 'creativity'...thats why natural talents like KdB & Mata were sold off in favor of the 'hard-working' type e.g. Oscar and Willian. I really wish we had gone after someone like James Rodriguez as we need a second player capable of creating goals out of nothing. Bayern already have 4-5 of the creative type yet they wasted no time adding to their firepower up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: The club has never cared about 'creativity'...thats why natural talents like KdB & Mata were sold off in favor of the 'hard-working' type e.g. Oscar and Willian. I really wish we had gone after someone like James Rodriguez as we need a second player capable of creating goals out of nothing. Bayern already have 4-5 of the creative type yet they wasted no time adding to their firepower up front. Not the club, it was mou who don't want kdb and mata. Th board signed mata n kdb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 hours ago, the wes said: Klopp hinted Liverpool don't need a cb http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10977675/jurgen-klopp-satisfied-with-liverpools-defensive-options yup and according to the sun (I know..), liverpool have given up their chase for him altogether, we basically have a free shot at him. He's still not training with the Southampton squad as far as I know so it seems there's no reason we shouldn't get him... I like Cahill a lot for his character, big goals in big moments, that he's British etc but VVD is a class above IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Our board is dumb. Why buy rudiger if u still want this guy? It's like they're actively wasting money on positions we don't need. At the same time doing their best to destroy youth development. I honestly think I'd do a better job than whoever's in charge right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMox81 193 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Easy route to Liverpool for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 The part of his statement where he says "if interest from to clubs still exists" is basically a come and get me plea to Liverpool. I think he'd be a beast there so I really hope he doesn't go to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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