Michy Batshuayi

[Strike 7,474]

9 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I agree. I do not know them to be reporting Diego is happy but you are implying that they are and I accept your word on that. Their reports still do not constitute all accounts however so your statement remains wrong and you should stop digging.

I don't agree with you for the reasons I gave above but this of opinion is at least a proper subject for us to debate.

For me, Diego would need to be much better to justify the hullabaloo which comes with him. If he should leave, I reserve the right to revisit this conversation and change my mind. That is to say, to admit that you were right and that replacing Costa was a mistake. For now however, I'm all for making the change.

 We will likely spend over 50million (conservative estimate) on two strikers should Costa leave. Unnecessary imo

There are several positions where we need an upgrade. Striker is not one of them. Costa is a perfectly good striker to lead the team and signing Batshuayi and whoever else will weaken the squad. I'm not for a change

 

[the wes 7,212]

A December 2015 profiling by FourFourTwo likened Batshuayi to Didier Drogba for his speed, strength, positioning and link-up play, despite being shorter than the former Marseille forward.

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5 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

This is very encouraging. I hope you are right. On the other hand it's a bit discouraging that he is behind Lukaku for the national team. I don't want Lukaku back because I do not believe he is good enough so I obviously would not be enthusiastic about signing someone who is not not as Good as our former striker.

I've watched the videos of course but have only seen him play 90 minutes once. In that game Marseilles were blown away by Rennes and I was focusing my attention on Dembele & Jed Boga in any case.

Lukaku has had a career that started when he was 16, Batshuayi had the career of a normal big talent. So you can't compare that. Besides that, Lukaku has visibly improved every year so far, so I don't think he is too light for Chelsea now.

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31 minutes ago, the wes said:

A December 2015 profiling by FourFourTwo likened Batshuayi to Didier Drogba for his speed, strength, positioning and link-up play, despite being shorter than the former Marseille forward.

I hope his link up is better than Didier's which was, in my opinion, generally weak. That's not to say of course that it was not sometimes good. In that famous Napoli game for example, it was out of this world but The Drog had shortcomings in each of the areas that go to make good link up play; control on receiving the ball, retaining possession by dribbling and accurate passing. There were spells in most games and stretches in each season where I would sooner have described his link up as poor rather than good.

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19 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

Lukaku has had a career that started when he was 16, Batshuayi had the career of a normal big talent. So you can't compare that. Besides that, Lukaku has visibly improved every year so far, so I don't think he is too light for Chelsea now.

I agree with your point about Lukaku having started at 16 and that making a difference about where his game has reached now.

I agree too that he has improved but only in the areas in which players can improve.  He has learned how to make better and better use of his attributes but the thing which is always going to hold him below top level, in my opinion, is his touch and that is something which does not improve. Again, in my opinion of course because I know many people disagree with me. They insist that all players can and do improve their basic talent level. I have never had a satisfactory answer to the question i ask when people make that point, but they keep making it.

The question? If players can improve their natural talent level, then why isn't everybody as good as Lionel Messi? Why don't they just keep practising until they get there? In truth it's a rhetorical question because everybody knows that all players have their ceiling and that no amount of practising is going to turn Jordon Henderson into Lionel Messi. In my opinion Rom's ceiling is below the level I'd like Chelsea's first choice striker to reach.

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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I'm quite happy for Diego to leave.

For one thing I'm in the group that thinks it's not a good idea to keep a player who wants to move on, and the reports that he'd like to head back to Atleti seem convincing to me. More importantly however, as I've said before, I don't believe that what Diego brings is worth the baggage that comes with him, and the huge motivation he gives to every group of opponents and their fans.

If he truly wants to go then Diego out, two talented strikers in is an attractive solution.

It's all English media bullshit to be fair. I have seen nothing in the Spanish press to suggest this. Indeed they (Spanish media) say that Diego Costa would not say "no" to a move back to Madrid, but only if Atletico de Madrid and Chelsea agree to the transfer. He will not ask for a move, nor force it. But today is Spain they have announced that Atletico have given up on their primary targets Gonzalo Higuain and Diego Costa because they are out of their reach, impossible to sign and have now made bids for Carlos Bacca and Mauro Icardi. Napoli want the full release clause in Gonzalo Higuain's contract (or something in the region of it) and Chelsea have made Diego Costa one of their untouchables and would demand a huge fee for him that Atletico de Madrid can't even think about getting close to it, nevermind match it.  

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3 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

It's all English media bullshit to be fair. I have seen nothing in the Spanish press to suggest this. Indeed they (Spanish media) say that Diego Costa would not say "no" to a move back to Madrid, but only if Atletico de Madrid and Chelsea agree to the transfer. He will not ask for a move, nor force it. But today is Spain they have announced that Atletico have given up on their primary targets Gonzalo Higuain and Diego Costa because they are out of their reach, impossible to sign and have now made bids for Carlos Bacca and Mauro Icardi. Napoli want the full release clause in Gonzalo Higuain's contract (or something in the region of it) and Chelsea have made Diego Costa one of their untouchables and would demand a huge fee for him that Atletico de Madrid can't even think about getting close to it, nevermind match it.  

Thank you.

As I said in other posts, Diego's supposed desire to return to Madrid has been backed up by quotes from Atleti's president but that he won't force a move is good. It's also good that we should hold out for an appropriate transfer fee. If he stays then well and good, if he leaves I'm fine with that too.

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You know it is official when skysports are reporting it

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10328227/michy-batshuayi-set-to-join-chelsea-according-to-sky-sources

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

34 minutes ago, Strike said:

 We will likely spend over 50million (conservative estimate) on two strikers should Costa leave. Unnecessary imo

There are several positions where we need an upgrade. Striker is not one of them. Costa is a perfectly good striker to lead the team and signing Batshuayi and whoever else will weaken the squad. I'm not for a change

 

I agree, I think we all would, that there are other areas of need. For me striker is one of them although I'd concede that it is not priority number one. Or even numbers two or three come to that. On the money, I assume you mean 50m net and that seems likely to be in the right area but don't forget we have a high possibility that Remy will leave too if new strikers arrive, so the final number should shade down a bit.

 

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2 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

 

PS2: Someone come up with a nickname for him because I can't pronounce his last name. 

Bat(man)-Shoa(rma)-Yi(eeehaw).

Not difficult. ;-)