lucio 5,418 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: As you know, when Guus said fair he meant fair to Newcastle and Norwich. Quite right too Guus. Well played. the lineup is dogshit though, so its not even being fair on newcastle and norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 It is not a meaningless game. Some here may not care about our obligations but Guss should and he does. He is a high class man. In any case the voices now moaning at him for having some integrity, would be the first to cry foul if we needed another team to drop points and their opponents turned up with the beach sandals on and the umbrellas up. Guus is not only trying to do his best in this game, he is making sure he is seen to be trying to do his best. Well played Mr. Hiddink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, lucio said: the lineup is dogshit though, so its not even being fair on newcastle and norwich. He's picked what he considers to be his strongest line up for this game. No one can ask any more of him than that. If you or I would have picked a different side then so be it but Guss is the boss so he gets the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 so we play the old turds who are already thinking about the euros / holidays? rather than the players eager to impress and earn a place in the team....this team is less likely to hold up our integrity..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 31 minutes ago, Stats said: Still playing Matic and Mikel together Could Hiddink be more defensive than Mourinho ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Don't mind the strong lineup but surely he has to explain why Ruben hasn't been playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, lucio said: so we play the old turds who are already thinking about the euros / holidays? rather than the players eager to impress and earn a place in the team....this team is less likely to hold up our integrity..... Says you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Fuck you Hiddink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Could Hiddink be more defensive than Mourinho ?? Like Jose he is a brilliant coach who finds the best solutions possible. Given that the squad is the same it's hardly surprising if those solutions are pretty much the same. P.S. I'm not a fan of Matic or Mikel so I'd probably not have picked that pairing. As confident as I am about my footballing opinions however, there are still moments when I remember that most of the world happens outside, not inside, my head. Just because I think something does not make it so. In the end someone has to choose the team, and Guss is that someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 so he copied a lineup that got us into a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseaphoenix26 4 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Really like all the youth on display today.Ivan needs to get more games under his belt to continue his blistering form and development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Just now, OhForAGreavsie said: Like Jose he is a brilliant coach who finds the best solutions possible. Given that the squad is the same it's hardly surprising if those solutions are pretty much the same. Normally Mourinho will play fabregas with Matic against smaller teams, so this looks too defensive.... But they could play differently on the pitch, so let's see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 3 games left to end the season with a bang rather then a wimper..hopefully can get something from today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Funny thing is this "strong" team will still probably lose. Motivation doesn't exactly run through their veins ... and why should it, when you can play dogshit for 12 months and still be guaranteed starting places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Madmax said: Funny thing is this "strong" team will still probably lose. Motivation doesn't exactly run through their veins ... and why should it, when you can play dogshit for 12 months and still be guaranteed starting places. but you aren't allowed to change it, because that would be cheating and unfair on newcastle or something, which is obviously top priority than the club trying to improve its squad and develop players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, lucio said: so he copied a lineup that got us into a relegation battle. No, he's picking the best side he can from the players available and deploying them in a way he thinks best. Our problem of course is that our best available team ain't all that great but what on Earth could Guus do about that today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It is not a meaningless game. Some here may not care about our obligations but Guss should and he does. He is a high class man. In any case the voices now moaning at him for having some integrity, would be the first to cry foul if we needed another team to drop points and their opponents turned up with the beach sandals on and the umbrellas up. Guus is not only trying to do his best in this game, he is making sure he is seen to be trying to do his best. Well played Mr. Hiddink. I see it the same way as you do, however, surely would not have been such a loss of quality if he would've have started Ruben for Mikel or one of Baba/Kenedy for Ivanovic. Select a strong team and play a few that could use the minutes, kill two birds with one stone. Considering also that we are going against Sunderland and not say Liverpool or Man CIty. Overall i'm quite disappointed by the line-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 As you know, when Guus said fair he meant fair to Newcastle and Norwich. Quite right too Guus. Well played. It's nice being the gentleman, but there is no price for it. Perfect opportunity to gain more experience for some of our lads, be more selfish! More importantly 3, 4 guys like Loftus-Cheek, Traoré, Kenedy, Baba who actually scored or assisted aren't that kind of a big deal, pretty good players, imo. Someone like Miazga should have made the bench! Even Jose said, if there's nothing left to play for us, we play youth, but most of these guys aren't youth, they were brought in for millions of pounds. I really don't like the lineup, upset before the game has even started. [emoji19] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said: I see it the same way as you do, however, surely would not have been such a loss of quality if he would've have started Ruben for Mikel or one of Baba/Kenedy for Ivanovic. Select a strong team and play a few that could use the minutes, kill two birds with one stone. Considering also that we are going against Sunderland and not say Liverpool or Man CIty. Overall i'm quite disappointed by the line-up. I agree. I'd have broken up the Mikel/Matic pairing but Guss sees it differently. I can live with what the boss has done and with why he's done it. By the way, I'm not a fan of Baba's so I'm pleased he's out of the side. Kennedy I'd have been happy see get another run at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseaphoenix26 4 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 26 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: their opponents turned up with the beach sandals on and the umbrellas up Are not these players going to turn up this way? Nothing to play for. Would they even be bothered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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