The Conte Thread

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Really hoping that Conte stays and we turn this around but I can't see it. This is all too similar to pre-Mourinho firing but this time it's less down to the manager and more the club. I feel like there's a growing majority here that won't mind him getting sacked but I personally believe he's been treated appallingly not just by the club after delivering a title with a mediocre side, but also by the media, who as usual, are the absolute worst, I know it comes with the territory but shame on them, lowest of the low. 

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[communicate 2,703]

1 hour ago, Eidur the Spider said:

Really hoping that Conte stays and we turn this around but I can't see it. This is all too similar to pre-Mourinho firing but this time it's less down to the manager and more the club. I feel like there's a growing majority here that won't mind him getting sacked but I personally believe he's been treated appallingly not just by the club after delivering a title with a mediocre side, but also by the media, who as usual, are the absolute worst, I know it comes with the territory but shame on them, lowest of the low. 

This, quite surprised that many people in this forum want him gone. He delivered a title with a mediocre team, now people expect us to be great yet we lost two key starter from last season in Costa and Matic. We replaced them with much younger not sure better players in Morata and Bakayoko. and we are still in top 4

[Leif 6,006]

Luis Enrique is literally the least qualified manager we've been linked to under Roman, full stop. 

 

He got his first proper gig (Roma manager) because they were desperate for apparent quality, and saw that 'Barcelona B's' manager was available. They wouldn't have gone for him had he managed any regular side - it was the Barcelona tag which did it for them - and he brought 0 genius, experimental, 0 progressive energy with him. So anyway, that tenure only lasted 1 year. Couldn't even last beyond a year with Roma.

They expected beautiful Barcelona football; they got more like average, Genoa-tier football.

 

After failing with Roma, 1 fine season with Celta Vigo.

 

Then back to his previous club, to win a few trophies with Suarez/Messi/etc. The worst managers in the world could achieve this same story.

 

Absolutely universes away from being good enough for the Chelsea we're supposed to be. His quality would barely have us fighting for top 4.

Juventus went from Conte to Allegri (sickening enough, I surely wouldn't be able to take it.) Imagine they went from Conte to Luis Enrique instead [emoji38]

But they take their club seriously.

 

 

[Leif 6,006]

''It meant a final position of seventh – Roma’s lowest position in a decade – and failure to qualify for European competition. Luis Enrique declared that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season, stating: “I had another year on the contract but didn’t feel that I had any more to give Roma. It let me see other players and other ways of playing the game.”''

https://thesefootballtimes.co/2017/07/11/if-rome-wasnt-built-in-a-day-luis-enrique-and-a-season-in-italy/

[kellzfresh 7,229]

32 minutes ago, Leif said:

Luis Enrique is literally the least qualified manager we've been linked to under Roman, full stop. 

He got his first proper gig (Roma manager) because they were desperate for apparent quality, and saw that 'Barcelona B's' manager was available. They wouldn't have gone for him had he managed any regular side - it was the Barcelona tag which did it for them - and he brought 0 genius, experimental, 0 progressive energy with him. So anyway, that tenure only lasted 1 year. Couldn't even last 1 year with Roma. They expected beautiful Barcelona football; they got average, Genoa-tier football.

After failing with Roma, 1 fine season with Celta Vigo.

Then back to his previous club, to win a few trophies with Suarez/Messi/etc. The worst managers in the world could achieve this same story.

Absolutely universes away from being good enough for the Chelsea we're supposed to be. His quality would barely have us fighting for top 4.
Juventus went from Conte to Allegri (sickening enough, I surely wouldn't be able to take it.) Imagine they went from Conte to Luis Enrique instead 
But they take their club seriously.

I just hope we dont make a mistake and hire him. He doesnt know how to build teams, it will be a disaster for us and reality check for him when he gets to our club and realizes he has to cope with the likes of bakayoko, moses, zapacosta, drinkwater, alonso and cahill as our first team players.

[Pizy 18,429]

Yeah, people calling for Conte to be sacked will be sorry. He's still the best out of any of the available managers. Hiring a mediocre (maybe worse?) manager like Luis Enrique who has done nothing and combining it with our clubs transfer policy and the very real possibility that we lose Hazard and Courtois would be a disaster. Like, we'd probably be finishing 6th-7th next season disaster.

We have to give him until at least the end of the season. If we finish in the top 4 and there's a decent mode around the club then he should stay and be given some proper investment into his priority targets. 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

There's no need to get all touchy about Conte whenever someone says something negative.

He’s right though, no matter what he says or does there are you guys to criticize him. It doesn’t matter that he wants what we want, you keep condemning the man who wants Chelsea to show some ambition.

You guys are so fickle. Most of you sound like the journalists out there who work tirelessly to destabilize the club.

And I’m sorry but to be a supporter means to support the club. The club is the staff, players and manager. If you can’t show support in time of need don’t call yourself a supporter, you’re probably closer to a fan or fanboy.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

What kind of training has he got them doing ?
Barkley has pulled his hamstring now. That's 8 hamstrings this season and 5 in the last month.

So not the amount of games but how they train? I’m pretty sure it has to do with the amount of games for such a thin squad.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Really hoping that Conte stays and we turn this around but I can't see it. This is all too similar to pre-Mourinho firing but this time it's less down to the manager and more the club. I feel like there's a growing majority here that won't mind him getting sacked but I personally believe he's been treated appallingly not just by the club after delivering a title with a mediocre side, but also by the media, who as usual, are the absolute worst, I know it comes with the territory but shame on them, lowest of the low. 

And also these so called supporters who seem to be lapping up everything the journos throw at the club.

Congratulations guys! You’ve allowed the outside noise to destabilize the club. You have become so fickle it’s embarrassing! One minute you are singing the praises of conte for delivering the title from 10th and the next you want him out for not playing Hudson-odoi or letting Matic go. The same Matic everyone wanted gone because he was so poor in the second half of the year.

This generation of Chelsea supporter is in the mold of the maniacal owner who fires a manager in the tunnel of the last game for finishing 2nd. This is what you have become.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Let' hope he sees out his third year and leaves the squad in a healthy condition. 

[Jase 43,479]

20 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

He’s right though, no matter what he says or does there are you guys to criticize him. It doesn’t matter that he wants what we want, you keep condemning the man who wants Chelsea to show some ambition.
You guys are so fickle. Most of you sound like the journalists out there who work tirelessly to destabilize the club.
And I’m sorry but to be a supporter means to support the club. The club is the staff, players and manager. If you can’t show support in time of need don’t call yourself a supporter, you’re probably closer to a fan or fanboy.

For the record, I never said I disagreed with him. I'm just tired of Conte repeating the same old thing every week till the point it sounds like he's complaining and he couldn't give a shit anymore. It's even worse when he does it after a bad result because it only adds further negative vibes around the team. Also, funny you mentioned about other destabilizing the club when Conte constantly gives ammunition to the media to do so on weekly basis.

[Jase 43,479]

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

For the record, I never said I disagreed with him. I'm just tired of Conte repeating the same old thing every week till the point it sounds like he's complaining and he couldn't give a shit anymore. It's even worse when he does it after a bad result because it only adds further negative vibes around the team. Also, funny you mentioned about other destabilizing the club when Conte constantly gives ammunition to the media to do so on weekly basis.

If you’re asked the same questions week after week after week you expect the answer to change?

The guy is honest and says what he means, if the media find ways to spin stories it’s up to you to figure out how he intended it. I watch all his pressers so I get a clear understanding of what he means. You should do the same.

[Cosmin 2,484]

This club just loves drama, doesn't it? The managers, the fans, everyone loves it. 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

If you’re asked the same questions week after week after week you expect the answer to change?

The guy is honest and says what he means, if the media find ways to spin stories it’s up to you to figure out how he intended it. I watch all his pressers so I get a clear understanding of what he means. You should do the same.

Don't have to because it's the same crap every week, from the journalists and manager. It's bloody obvious and the point here isn't even about understanding what he says! If he's getting asked the same thing every week, why not just say 'I've answered this last week. I will not say any thing more' or something along those lines? Yet, he keeps feeding the journalists with his unhappiness about things and sometimes, adds more to what he's said in previous weeks.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

This club just loves drama, doesn't it? The managers, the fans, everyone loves it. 

We're Hollywood FC for a reason.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Don't have to because it's the same crap every week, from the journalists and manager. It's bloody obvious and the point here isn't even about understanding what he says! If he's getting asked the same thing every week, why not just say 'I've answered this last week. I will not say any thing more' or something along those lines? Yet, he keeps feeding the journalists with his unhappiness about things and sometimes, adds more to what he's said in previous weeks.

He’s said that many times as well and the same questions keep coming. If he doesn’t answer them he’s called angry and moody and that becomes an entirely different narrative. Again it’s up to you to choose what you want to believe and how you interpret media mind games, I for one will back the manager. He’s done more than enough for me to at least give him another year to see where this goes.