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PSG hold talks with Antonio Conte’s representatives over summer move

Conte, meanwhile, has showed at Chelsea that he is capable of creating a team that can overcome the odds and win titles. Chelsea won the league in his first season at Stamford Bridge and although his second campaign has not been as successful there is recognition in Paris that he was not backed in the summer transfer window and that the squad has lacked the required depth and quality to compete in Europe and domestically.

The Italian’s relationship with the board has deteriorated this season with Conte complaining that he has not been able to sign the players he wanted. Chelsea are currently fifth, five points behind Tottenham, who they play next in the league.

The lack of investment in the Chelsea squad has never been far from Conte’s thoughts and before the recent game against Manchester City he said: “When you have a good manager and a lot of money to spend, probably you can have a successful season.

“I have great ambition but I don’t have money for Chelsea. The club knows very well what is my idea, what is my ambition. That is very clear. When you decide to work with this type of coach, you must understand that you take a coach with great ambition. Not a loser but a winner. And that ambition must always be shared.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/24/psg-hold-talks-antonio-conte-manager-chelsea

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23 hours ago, Tomo said:

Going by Conte's money logic we should be 3rd.

And you think Conte has no say in transfers? The shift pattern to the type of players weve gone for under him strongly suggest otherwise.

Problem is its not just him who has said it. Jose commented on it before. Probably has some sort of say but can't see having the final say.. Which is the problem if we find someone who wants control that ain't gana happen 

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1 hour ago, Laylabelle said:

Problem is its not just him who has said it. Jose commented on it before. Probably has some sort of say but can't see having the final say.. Which is the problem if we find someone who wants control that ain't gana happen 

I would imagine we have some sort of transfer comitee. Two clubs currently above us run a similar model and even tighter finances.

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On 3/25/2018 at 3:05 PM, Tomo said:

Going by Conte's money logic we should be 3rd.

And you think Conte has no say in transfers? The shift pattern to the type of players weve gone for under him strongly suggest otherwise.

There should be no doubt regarding that...the players we've gone for are mainly to strengthen our '5 at the back' formations. He might have got his 2nd or 3rd choice picks for the positions, but they are definitely his picks.

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On 3/24/2018 at 7:49 PM, Henrique said:

Mate, why do you keep saying the same bullshit over and over? This season Conte is doing a poor job with the current squad. The squad is not good enough to beat Barcelona or win the PL? I completely agree, but this squad should not be sitting in 5th at the moment with few to no hope of ending in the top 4. Period.

You are being dishonest, because you are acting like Conte's job is under threat because the board wanted to win PL and UCL with the current squad and thats not the case. Not to mention Conte is a mediocre and moaning manager. He is a Jose Mourinho without the rich CV the Portuguese has. 

I think the squad is exactly where it supposed to be. 

Ever since Mourinho came back we keep deterioting our squad. We have a stupid rule of selling to fund players. And those that we buy tend to be horrible. 

Look at City and Unitet. They stack up their players. They don't sell them to buy new players. 

Sell Costa for Morata. Downgrade. Sell Matic for Bakayoko. Downgrade. Sell Chalobah for Drinkwater. Downgrade. 

The club is really turning very mediocre like that of Liverpool of years ago....amazingly it's Liverpool who are now spending big and better then us. 

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Is there any point in the board not sacking Conte now? The main objective has gone out of the window. Why bother keeping a manager who has long thrown the towel? Just look at what he did against Spurs - went 3-1 down in the 66th minute and waited till the 81st minute before making the first sub. In fact, he made all 3 subs in the last 10 minutes. Does he think they are all Ronaldo or Messi?! And once again, he stuck with the back 3 till the bitter end. No change in formation or any sort of genuine Plan B. :doh: 

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8 minutes ago, KevinAshburner said:

Do you guys think Conte will be Sacked in a few hours or in a few days time.

He'll ride it out now as it's too late to make any real difference. If he was going to be sacked during the season, it would/should have come after that Watford game.

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Is there any point in the board not sacking Conte now? The main objective has gone out of the window. Why bother keeping a manager who has long thrown the towel? Just look at what he did against Spurs - went 3-1 down in the 66th minute and waited till the 81st minute before making the first sub. In fact, he made all 3 subs in the last 10 minutes. Does he think they are all Ronaldo or Messi?! And once again, he stuck with the back 3 till the bitter end. No change in formation or any sort of genuine Plan B. :doh: 

I think he will stay till the end of the season..We are still in FA cup.. 

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Come to think of it, I do believe now that Costa was in the right regarding their conflict. I don't recall him having any attitude problem during Mourinho's and Hiddink's time, which leads me to believe that Costa never wanted to take sh*t from Conte's power tripping. Man do I miss him!!

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I dont even know what we could do to improve over next 3 years. Everything from board, manager, first 11, backups, identity, reputation, playing style is decreasing at rapid rate, like a desease spreading from inside. We are only covering tiny bits every summer, instead of digging deep and remove rotten core.

Its not going to happen, removing the core. Doesnt matter if we replace manager, or get new sporting director, or buy two players,...the same old problems will errupt over and over. Board wont back managers infinitely and managers will not achive long term stability, leading to more inconsistency, ending with bad resluts, board sacking managers because they didnt give crap after not having support, and hiring new managers, ony to not back them up again, more inconsitency etc. Rinse and repeat.

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1 minute ago, Irakozium257 said:

Come to think of it, I do believe now that Costa was in the right regarding their conflict. I don't recall him having any attitude problem during Mourinho's and Hiddink's time, which leads me to believe that Costa never wanted to take sh*t from Conte's power tripping. Man do I miss him!!

Hah yeah. Just wait for all people who blindly defended Conte in Costa situation change their mind once Conte gets sack.

It was extremely immature from Conte to tell Costa he can fuck off in summer, back then in january. Board was about to extend with Costa, but people believed the bullshit news reports aboout his desire to leave. It was probably just intern bust up with Conte, and the later simply didnt tolerate it, for whatever reason, probably just big ego. Just look how simple he left juve after several years in a second before start of season because of argument.

Its funny how people here absolutely ''know'' that press is only telling bullshit, but they blindly believed Costa to china rumours and backed Conte without any fact. I guess this story suited them back then. While Costa, helping us to two titles, got big finger in the ass by 90% of chelsea fans.

I still miss those Diego moments at Chelsea when he bullied whole opponent team and SB chanted Diegooo, Diegooo. Some people have short memories unfortunely.

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10 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

I dont even know what we could do to improve over next 3 years. Everything from board, manager, first 11, backups, identity, reputation, playing style is decreasing at rapid rate, like a desease spreading from inside. We are only covering tiny bits every summer, instead of digging deep and remove rotten core.

Its not going to happen, removing the core. Doesnt matter if we replace manager, or get new sporting director, or buy two players,...the same old problems will errupt over and over. Board wont back managers infinitely and managers will not achive long term stability, leading to more inconsistency, ending with bad resluts, board sacking managers because they didnt give crap after not having support, and hiring new managers, ony to not back them up again, more inconsitency etc. Rinse and repeat.

That's what happens when the owner of the club is always looking for a quick fix. Quick fix with the managers. 14 years now and still no football identity. We're a rudderless club and sadly Abramovich deserves quite a lot of the blame for the quick fix approach. 

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