The Conte Thread

[Milan 17,861]

2 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

Except this time it is a valid excuse...We can clearly see players are struggling to cope with it

So what? Should we withdraw ourselves from 2 competitions so we have more time to prepare for games? Or lose on purpose in a cup? We are Chelsea, we are supposed to be a top team. Every single top team has a busier schedule. And we have been struggling with it the whole season.

[DYC. 7,542]

It's always extremes.

Last season he was this god, exhalted above all other managers and capable of turning crap into gold. People actually wanted the club to buy average/decent players and all kinds of 'experiments' because Conte would do his abracadabra ting and take them to higher levels. And you're a fool if you think otherwise.

Now he's a fraud, unmotivated, needs to go bla, bla, bla.

The same thing over and over again. It's the damnedest thing.

[Laylabelle 9,387]

Think back before we used to have a bigger squad or players that could come in place of someone else and still get a result.. These days not the case. Which doesn't help. Not a excuse though we were just shite and it's been the case for a while. 

I just don't see how the rumours of who he's being replaced with would help him. You would think what truth is there to them... 

Very bad day at the office. Doesnt help the striker situation either. That was piss poor planning 

[Jase 43,479]

6 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

Except this time it is a valid excuse...We can clearly see players are struggling to cope with it

 

2 minutes ago, milan.cech said:

So what? Should we withdraw ourselves from 2 competitions so we have more time to prepare for games? Or lose on purpose in a cup? We are Chelsea, we are supposed to be a top team. Every single top team has a busier schedule. And we have been struggling with it the whole season.

All down to Conte's intense training regime. Christensen picked up a hamstring injury (the 7th hamstring problem suffered by a first team player this season) and arguably the main reason why we have looked so flat in most games this season.

[OneMoSalah 8,788]

Bad move replacing Barkley with Cesc, it was 0-0, I know hes Italian but take a risk, keep Barkley on and put Cesc on in place of one of the deeper MF players. Giroud's arrival gives us another dimension but again is it going to be enough if we've got 2 defensive minded midfield players on and only one or two attack minded players around him? Some of the subs these last few month, fair enough hes complained about the squad, have been bad. Not saying he needs to go, not a chance, hes a top manager, proved that last season but if he stays next year him and the club need to be more proactive in transfers and perhaps he needs to take the shackles off in games against smaller teams where its 0-0? I don't mind seeing us a bit more cautious in bigger matches, we aren't going to pass Man City or Liverpool off the park but if we're solid enough and can get a few clear chances we'll always be in with a shout. The smaller teams though, different story, we need to be more on the front foot at certain instances. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

8 minutes ago, DYC. said:

It's always extremes.

Last season he was this god, exhalted above all other managers and capable of turning crap into gold. People actually wanted the club to buy average/decent players and all kinds of 'experiments' because Conte would do his abracadabra ting and take them to higher levels. And you're a fool if you think otherwise.

Now he's a fraud, unmotivated, needs to go bla, bla, bla.

The same thing over and over again. It's the damnedest thing.

Its clear last season he really benefited from lack of European football and any serious injuries. This season he has to coach weekends and midweek and rotate his squad and he has been terrible at that. His summer signings have also been woeful, bringing mediocre Serie A players no one has ever heard of and Bakayoko who no one really wanted.

He's shown so far to be just have negative as Mourinho. His football is just shit-on-a-stick one big snoozefest.  I long for the day in this "Abramovich Era"  we can sign a manager that can produce good football a'la a Guardiola, Klopp or Pochettino. 

[Alabama 1,992]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Its clear last season he really benefited from lack of European football and any serious injuries. This season he has to coach weekends and midweek and rotate his squad and he has been terrible at that. His summer signings have also been woeful, bringing mediocre Serie A players no one has ever heard of. 

The signings cannot be really binned on him but at least the training session tactics and substitutions are nothing but absolute disaster... Playing Bakayoko every now and then without any iota of chance of improvement.... Bringing Barkley out of the game when the game is still 0 0.....m not saying he should go but he should review all these and find a drastic solution to them.... Why can't we go back to back 4 when we have average and shut wingbacks... 

[The Chels 2,502]

No shame.

 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, The Chels said:

No shame.

 

He's approaching Mourinho territory...begging to be sacked.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

3 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

The signings cannot be really binned on him but at least the training session tactics and substitutions are nothing but absolute disaster... Playing Bakayoko every now and then without any iota of chance of improvement.... Bringing Barkley out of the game when the game is still 0 0.....m not saying he should go but he should review all these and find a drastic solution to them.... Why can't we go back to back 4 when we have average and shut wingbacks... 

Who do you think is responsible for signing Serie A mediocrity when our manager just so happens to be Italian and has coached in the Italian league? Smarten up man. Now that Emenalo is gone, there's no longer a scapegoat to blame for awful transfers. 

[Jase 43,479]

"consider a CL finish a great success'

He's making us like Arsenal now!

[Georgy 439]

7 minutes ago, The Chels said:

No shame.

 

As bitter as he sounds, he is right. This team shouldn't even be close to top 4 as things stand right now.

[OneMoSalah 8,788]

9 minutes ago, The Chels said:

No shame.

 

Obviously he'd say something like that. What manager is going to say "No I'm not working to the best of my ability", what sort of message does that send to one the owner, two the fans and three the players? Him using the world exploiting is odd, how many times have you heard somebody say they're exploiting a squad to the max level? Is that another funnily worded hint or dig towards the club for leaving him short of players in his mind or what?

Anyway when you put 11 players of that level out on the pitch you'd expect more if you were any manager. He made a bad call with a sub (not first time). That really changed the game for me, showed his intentions, to let Bournemouth play more. He has to motivate the players for the rest of the season and get them to finish top 4, he can do it I'm sure but again hes got to watch because a few more results like this against smaller sides and he probably won't be in a job long. Roman is not afraid to do something like that without hesitation. In the next month or two we'll probably have forgotten about this result anyway. Sometimes these freak show days just happen. 

 

Just seen the second quote. This is not news to anybody. We experienced this shit when we won the league under Jose, we didn't improve and look what happened. Every summer, most top 4-6 teams buy 3-6 players minimum of a good standard or to fill their squad. We needed improvement on Moses, Alonso, Batshuayi, Cahill, etc. We didn't sign anybody to improve on them (Well Morata but lost Costa after so not really improvement). If we finish top 4 hes done alright, considering all the talk and how people will say he needs to go now etc after this defeat, considering our strange dealings, considering more minutes (lame excuse still but yeah), considering the form of players who were much better last season etc etc. but these things should be expected. 

[Alabama 1,992]

2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Who do you think is responsible for signing Serie A mediocrity when our manager just so happens to be Italian and has coached in the Italian league? Smarten up man

He might be the one or not....but it doesn't help matters when the board keep signing mediocre players in the mould of drinkwater bakayoko and the not from Italian league... Another example is the recent closure of the winter transfer window....we should have used the period to sign a quality winger ala Fekir/Baily/Pulisic that will elevate our attacking play... But no we keeping merry go rounding looking for target man... A blind child can see our attacking play is absolute disaster.... 

[Milan 17,861]

3 minutes ago, Georgy said:

As bitter as he sounds, he is right. This team shouldn't even be close to top 4 as thing stand right now.

If it wasn't for Wembley being their home, Tottenham would be out of reach too. And that makes me really really worry about our chances. Even though at the moment we are in the top 4, we are far away from it.

[El P. 1,354]

He should've done better, probably. But I am just not buying that with Fabregas in midfield-2 we would all of a sudden be much better. Guy got to prepare the squad with no striker, with no Willian, with newish Barkley and Fabregas who just got out of injury. His "mistakes" are always up for discussion, those are not THEE mistakes, which everyone just admit they are. Like Alonso being slow, like Cahill being clumsy, like our midfield which can't keep the ball, like hundred other things.

And someone said that his training sessions are too much for our players? Without them they would be even more average, but players would be more healthy, I guess.

Last season we have all agreed that this formation with 3 at the back just suits our players so well. And now that changed? All of a sudden Azpi is great at RB? Alonso is classy LB? Our CBs are good enough to play in 4 at the back?

I don't know what will happen, Conte might be guilty for something here and there, but our club's state is just not his fuckin' fault.

[The Chels 2,502]

22 minutes ago, Georgy said:

As bitter as he sounds, he is right. This team shouldn't even be close to top 4 as things stand right now.

I disagree. There is a lot of mediocrity in the squad, for sure, but there is also a lot more talent than is being displayed. Enough to make top 4 comfortably. Just build a somewhat competent and proactive system around Hazard and we're halfway there.

[Tomo 21,733]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

"consider a CL finish a great success'

He's making us like Arsenal now!

He's making a lot of "tempering expection" comments lately, the type Roy fucking Hogdson made (and was universally mocked for) while managing Liverpool and England.