Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 8 hours ago, The Skipper said: The biggest weakness I can see with this 3-4-3 is the space in behind the wing backs. Because both of our wingbacks aren't fantastic defenders, if you've got that space and you've isolated Moses or Alonso and are a decent dribbler, you should be able to exploit it, and then you can exploit further by either putting in a good cross if no support comes in, or having another player attack the channel that is left behind by the support player if support does arrive. It's something that could be a problem against City specifically since they like their players underlapping and moving in these channels and spaces. It'll be interesting to see how Conte deals with this if it gets properly exploited. True but I'd say Alonso is worse than Moses in defensive situations. The former has been getting beaten a tad too easily - especially against pacey players - but we are fortunate that we haven't been punished for it yet. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 18 minutes ago, Unionjack said: All right Luiz is doing those long passes and I like it. Gives us more crteativity options. But even tho the lads stepped up and making the most of Willians mums illness etc I really do think we need to upgrade that position and have needed to since Eden came. Sadly with no Cescy or anyone else thats able to step up, we cack good creativity. And when teams come and double mark him or come and kick 10 loadsa shit out of him we realy nerd for that right side to take over. If we had another Eden like lad teams would be even more spread out than now with them having to go wide to chase the WBs. I know it will be difficult to get someone but I dont think we should penny pinch on him. It would almost be like having 3 strikers But it does make me worry a little hearing Conte say hes not thinking about bringing in transfers and the team is complete. Thats sounding like the way Mou fucked up. WE all know we could upgrade/strengthen/add STRONG depth. And its always best to strengthen when you're winning. So these next 2 windows should really make us and hopefully dominate Europe next year. It will be fantastic to get a right winger who makes off the ball runs in behind the defence like Pedro but is a better finisher. But without Champions League football it will be hard to get the right quality we need to improve that position so I'm hoping we get the Champions League spot at the end of the season, then we go all out for absolute quality in Griezmann, dybala or even mahrez (last season player of the year) so that Hazard being double marked is taken completely out of the equation. If it's possible a quicker leftback who can defend and cross like Alonso will really settle fears on Alonso's lack of pace. But so far, we can cope without anyone in january Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: It will be fantastic to get a right winger who makes off the ball runs in behind the defence like Pedro but is a better finisher. But without Champions League football it will be hard to get the right quality we need to improve that position so I'm hoping we get the Champions League spot at the end of the season, then we go all out for absolute quality in Griezmann, dybala or even mahrez (last season player of the year) so that Hazard being double marked is taken completely out of the equation. If it's possible a quicker leftback who can defend and cross like Alonso will really settle fears on Alonso's lack of pace. But so far, we can cope without anyone in january So we dont buy in Jan sales to either upgrade nor strengthen/add good depth for key positions?. In late Jan we are 6 points in the lead. Alonso gets a broken toe and Moses gets a Groin strain in the Africans Nations cup as he has already been out 3 weeks its going to take ages to recover,rest and get better. Who do you suggest we use for WBs or do we change formations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, Unionjack said: So we dont buy in Jan sales to either upgrade nor strengthen/add good depth for key positions?. In late Jan we are 6 points in the lead. Alonso gets a broken toe and Moses gets a Groin strain in the Africans Nations cup as he has already been out 3 weeks its going to take ages to recover,rest and get better. Who do you suggest we use for WBs or do we change formations? Moses is not going for African cup of nations, Nigeria didn't qualify. But we have even Willian who is defensive enough to play that role. I hear we are recalling Kenedy from his Watford loan. So he can easily slot into that wing-back role as a sub for Alonso. The Kenedy recall is the only reason why I realized we don't need to delve into the market in january. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Antonio better BEATS FUCKING TOTTENHAM Last Sicarius and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 37 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: I hear we are recalling Kenedy from his Watford loan. So he can easily slot into that wing-back role as a sub for Alonso. The Kenedy recall is the only reason why I realized we don't need to delve into the market in january. Why not? The lads been brilliant for Watford!!!! I really liked Kennedy and yes IF HE WAS THE PLAYER WHO LEFT US I think he might make a good WB. I was upset he left but he wont be anything like the player who left us. Theres reports of him getting a bad attitude too. So even if he did get his form back he wont be ready to play at our level for weeks. Not if Conte thought Bats wasn't Chelsea standard fit after just being in the Euros. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Soon time for managers press confrence http://www.chelseafc.com/videos/chelseatvlive.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 He doesn't let anything slip does he. No answers about anything but NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 42 minutes ago, Unionjack said: He doesn't let anything slip does he. No answers about anything but NOW! That's how he is. He only works behind the scenes. He's never transparent. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, BoyBlue96 said: That's how he is. He only works behind the scenes. He's never transparent. LOL Infuriating. But he does it with a smile. It wouldn't hurt us if he said yeah we might be looking for this or that. Just for impatiant bastards like me haha kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, kellzfresh said: Moses is not going for African cup of nations, Nigeria didn't qualify. But we have even Willian who is defensive enough to play that role. I hear we are recalling Kenedy from his Watford loan. So he can easily slot into that wing-back role as a sub for Alonso. The Kenedy recall is the only reason why I realized we don't need to delve into the market in january. We still need cover for both areas for me, i heard Lichtsteiner hasn't played much with Juve so maybe get him on a short 18 month contract with Kenedy returning for the left to back up Moses and Alonso. Tbh i am not convinced atall by Kenedy but i guess the six month can be served as a trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 46 minutes ago, Tomo said: Tbh i am not convinced atall by Kenedy but i guess the six month can be served as a trail. Weren't you the one who insisted Kenedy can be great as a LWB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Weren't you the one who insisted Kenedy can be great as a LWB? Potentially as a left back if he develops correct i said which there is still a slight chance, but if i had to make a wager on how his career he will end up i would predict lower prem/upper championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Kenedy at his best will reach the heights Pedro did at Barcelona I think. Which is being a really, really solid, proper player, but never an absolute elite of his time. He's too all-rounded, good at too many things. A jack of all trades but a master of none. No 1 obvious strength, so no consistency will come in terms of his fruition, because he offers too much to be stuck in 1 role. I hope he becomes a forward and not a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I thought this was the Kenedy thread. I blame you 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, Jason said: Weren't you the one who insisted Kenedy can be great as a LWB? Some might titter but I wouldn't mind giving Oscar a try at RWB/ Hes a nippy bugga, fit as a butchers dog, IMHO his best strength is top end defending. Cant think who else unless we use Kante and put Matic with Chalobah.g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ahmed 528 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Tup uf thi lig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 17 hours ago, Tomo said: We still need cover for both areas for me, i heard Lichtsteiner hasn't played much with Juve so maybe get him on a short 18 month contract with Kenedy returning for the left to back up Moses and Alonso. Tbh i am not convinced atall by Kenedy but i guess the six month can be served as a trail. I'm willing to give Kenedy a chance, he's played leftback for us a couple of times before, so the wing-back position should be easier for him. He has recovery speed too. The reason I am cautious during the January transfer window, it's hard to find quality buys. I don't want us to buy average Joes, unless suddenly a quality leftback becomes available we should plan for the summer instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Lippi's student. You need to watch this over and over again to understand where he is coming from. We may not play too well but I will never lose my faith in him or our team. sir_volrath, Cosmin, Supermonkey92 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted November 26, 2016 Look at that Xg map. We were properly played off the park that entire first half, and same for the first 15mins vs Southamptopn Away, but the team still rarely conceeded clear goal-scoring opportunities even when on the back foot for large chunks of time. Spurs were limited to long shots, like that entire 1st half. Very underrated aspect of Conte's switch to the 343. And another win for Conte in a "big game". Now 2W's and 2L's. Conte has found his stride. Next week's match vs City is going to be lit af. The Chels, Barbara, The Skipper and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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