The Conte Thread

[Muzchap 8,966]

1 hour ago, nono said:

Wish we had Guardiola. He would've really transformed the team.

Why do you think he joined City? He's not a stupid bloke - City needed a few signings to be a really great team. 

Chelsea needed at least 5-6 signings and the team individually is below that of City 

Our team struggles with passing and moving - we are slow and static - we have no desire to make angles and give the person on the ball options. This will improve - but it takes time and a change of personnel - we need Cahil and Iva dropped, Azpi on the right and new guy (again) on left 

we need Cesc + Kante in midfield. 

As for today - their goal was a foul on Cahil - no surprise Marriner didn't see it - easily one of the most useless refs around

we should have scored 4-5 - it has been a perennial problem. 

Hazard, Willian & Oscar do not score anywhere near enough goals. 

The improvements will be slow and painful - but as long as we are improving I'm happy. 

[nono 791]

2 minutes ago, Muzchap said:

Why do you think he joined City? He's not a stupid bloke - City needed a few signings to be a really great team. 

Chelsea needed at least 5-6 signings and the team individually is below that of City 

Our team struggles with passing and moving - we are slow and static - we have no desire to make angles and give the person on the ball options. This will improve - but it takes time and a change of personnel - we need Cahil and Iva dropped, Azpi on the right and new guy (again) on left 

we need Cesc + Kante in midfield. 

As for today - their goal was a foul on Cahil - no surprise Marriner didn't see it - easily one of the most useless refs around

we should have scored 4-5 - it has been a perennial problem. 

Hazard, Willian & Oscar do not score anywhere near enough goals. 

The improvements will be slow and painful - but as long as we are improving I'm happy. 

Yeah I am losing perspective. It's just the emotional high after a terrible result plus those donkeys at the Emirates got gifted two points this weekend while we were robbed.

[Tomo 21,733]

My main gripe with the club as a whole during my whole life as a Chelsea supporter is how shit we are winning points late on, not only winning the points but the application, we never seemed to pin teams back like United under Fergie did and to an extent Arsenal late 00s/early10s aswell.

Obviously law of averages we did it a few times but I always had this dread when games hit 70-75 and we weren't in front, after the Watford and Swansea games when we levelled the score I was convinced we were going to win it, I know we didn't today but we had Swansea by the balls to the point they hooked off their best player for a defender.

I know there's still a lot of work to do, but by the looks of it Conte has installed an almost Fergie time like belief in our squad that we can save games in the dying embers.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

12 minutes ago, Muzchap said:

Why do you think he joined City? He's not a stupid bloke - City needed a few signings to be a really great team. 

Chelsea needed at least 5-6 signings and the team individually is below that of City 

Our team struggles with passing and moving - we are slow and static - we have no desire to make angles and give the person on the ball options. This will improve - but it takes time and a change of personnel - we need Cahil and Iva dropped, Azpi on the right and new guy (again) on left 

You are absolutely right. I'm sure Guardiola has had his sights set on City, but has taken time to analyze other offers, too. In the end I think it was impossible to choose others over City because of one thing - their squad. What makes Guardiola so unique is that, unlike other managers, he thinks that he can control the game and close the spaces by having the ball. Most of the managers think that in order to be compact and leave no space you need steel in midfield and players with a good work rate. I bet that 95% of the managers in this world would not have started a midfield three of David Silva - Fernandinho - De Bruyne away at United in one of world's most anticipated football game. Most of them would have gone for Fernandinho of course, one of David Silva or De Bruyne and another defensive minded midfielder, Fernando for example. But not Guardiola who does not give a shit if David Silva is not tall enough, or De Bruyne's work rate is average. These players are very good with the ball and that's enough for Guardiola. I'm sure that when Gundogan is going to be fit, too, he will try to integrate all of them into the starting line-up at the same time. Guardiola would be ready to make changes to his tactics in order to have all this ballers on the pitch at the same time, rather than think he is going to disrupt the defensive part of his team. As long as his team is in posession he has nothing to be afraid of.

At City he has the likes of Gundogan, David Silva, De Bruyne, Nolito, Sterling, Fernandinho, Sane, all of them superior to Chelsea's midfielders. Out of Hazard and Cesc, maybe Pedro, too, are there any other midfielders in our squad good enough for Guardiola's game plan? Not for me, no. His decision to go to City was the most obvious one. 

Too bad we lack creativity in midfield, but at the same time Cesc can't get a sniff ahead Oscar and Matic. Such a shame. 

[nono 791]

47 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

You mean offensively or defensively ? Because defensively there's spectacular diffrence, offensively it's hard to say. Maybe Hazard is difference here but keep in mind we signed ONE offensive player who is a sub. We can build structures and organize the team all we want and defensively it gives effects but you can't fool when it comes to creating. Giving Guardiola example is just plain stupid, he bought several offensive players and inherited spectacular squad even before these new additions. While our Player of the Year is not able to create a situation and guy like Moses is called for the rescue (to his credit, he was on different threat level to our POTY).

I was calling for offensive signings before signing a defender. You can cover your weakness in defense by being well drilled machine but you can hardly do this on the other end.

All in all, we're on course of finishing in top3 which is our aim.

Should have maybe gotten a winger instead of Bats ? Maybe Mahrez or Mane ? I know Costa has a bad history of injuries but if he stays fit all season that means Bats is basically a waste of 32m pounds. 

[AlesJuve 264]

Equalize is a defeat for Conte,in fact he said that Chelsea lost two points today.You had to close the game before the first half was one-sided in favor of Chelsea.Unfortunately with the defense that you have you can not afford a single goal.But this draw could be good to make it clear to the players that they have to give best and stay focused for the whole game.

[Fernando 6,480]

Not much worried. 

I will be worried if come November we still have the same back four. As it would have proved what I was saying before, if your not going to use the players don't buy them at all as that's a waste of money. But if he uses them, which I hope, then good. 

Other then that, the first test comes Friday. We shall see what he's made of. 

[Azpinator 2,325]

I've heard from some Juve fans that he almost always starts making subs around the 75th minute.

My only problem with his subs today was that he should have used Michy before Moses. Michy had bigger impact in the first 3 games.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I know a lot of people what to grill Conte for not starting/bring on Fabregas earlier, but we were in complete control before they equalized. 

Chelsea currently lead the league in Expected Goals Against at about 1.79. Swansea couldn't create one clear cut opportunity until we had to chase the game. We've been very solid defensively. 

Here's the stat. *And our ExpGA would be a 1/3 less if you takeout that Fer/Cahill foul to goal. 

What Conte has to answer, is  how the hell was Azpilicueta the ONLY man back from that free kick which resulted in their counter? We were so disorganized at the back, and had no bodies In defense to take up the positions for Cahill/Ivan/JT who had gone up for the FK. 

Either players forgot their assignments, or that hasn't been practices enough, idk what happened, but that was League One stuff from us. That simoly cannot be happening. 

Otherwise, can't wait to see how Conte prepares us for Liverpool.

[The_Flash 1,144]

I wasn't sure about Conte but I am loving his passion and love him jumping and screaming kicking every ball with us, loved his post match interview also

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Looks like another Mourinho to me

[BlueLyon 9,359]

We had terrible year and quite bad team. We signed Conte to fix that, but it will take time. You cant just bring in 6 players in one summer and start winning games. It takes fucking time. Could well be two years to actualy get all players Conte wants and sell deadwood. 

Yet here we are two months into and people already complaining. We are actualy improving on both ends, our defense is better than last season (that doesnt tell much tho), our midfield is faster, our attack creates more chances and players release ball quicker. Its all improvement. But obviously we wont be winning every game comfortably 3:0. 

Some of you lot are like the board. Want changes instantly. No time. No trust. Then you talk about youth and not changing managers every year. If that aint ironic. 

[blu35_army 551]

If any juve fans here,,how long conte can integrate all player and make your team become unbeaten in all aspect??? If the answer is 2nd year,,then be patient for a while. But,,the back 4 is need to major change at least in the 2nd half of the season...

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[Tomo 21,733]

7 hours ago, Azpinator said:

I've heard from some Juve fans that he almost always starts making subs around the 75th minute.

My only problem with his subs today was that he should have used Michy before Moses. Michy had bigger impact in the first 3 games.

That's a weird one I have to say and the one critique of Antonio I have so far, my guess is he likes to wait till then because the opposition will be even leggier than say if the sub was made on the hour and he believes the fresh impetuous will have us swarming over the opposition for the last 15 (lets be fair that's worked on the whole so far),  @AlesJuve and his fellow Juventus fans will know if I'm close to correct on that or not. Also how points did Juve save late on under Antonio?

[Muzchap 8,966]

Anybody complaining about Conte already is delusional plain and simple. 

We were dogshit last season - fact

we are now Good/Average - that's a huge leap! If he can do the same again next season - we will be in a great place!

this season is al about Top4 - that's our aim - to expect anything more is just crazy. 

Conte is doing a decent job - International breaks always fuck up our momentum. 

Onwards and upwards! 

[Chelsea4 1,521]

14 hours ago, nono said:

He keeps talking about incorporating players into his style of football but what does he really mean ? All i really see is a defensive approach. Two games we've nicked in the dying minutes and finally we lost points today against a really poor side. He hasn't binned any of our underperformers from last season. Every new manager must take a year to assess the garbage in our squad and since we change managers every year they'll basically be with us forever.

 As for Conte what is really special about him? I don't see it so far. Mourinho wouldve had the exact same lineup that he's been playing so what was the point of bringing him in ? The football hasn't really changed and the youth players can't even make the squad.

 

 

14 hours ago, nono said:

Wish we had Guardiola. He would've really transformed the team.

 

12 hours ago, nono said:

Our football hasn't really improved is what I'm saying.

You are really deluded.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

8 hours ago, Vybz Kartel said:

Looks like another Mourinho to me

NAH fuck me some of you are so deluded.

[manpe 10,861]

Conte is the best signing of the season followed by Kante. Who cannot appreciate what he's done already and what he aims to do, I am sorry. Our players are confident, have regained self-belief, seem to be developing a drawn-up plan on both ends (we only had a plan on one end under Mourinho, but last season not even that). Last season's black sheeps Ivanovic, Oscar and Matic haven't been half as bad as that and seem to have regained that drive in them that was missing before. Everything about Conte is fresh and positive, I haven't felt this excited about a manager since Mourinho's first stint.