The Conte Thread

[OhForAGreavsie 6,089]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

That Burnley game has been typical Liverpool under Klopp tho infact it's been typical Pool since Rafa's reign, geuinenly wouldnt surprise me if they dropped points or failing that made a serious drama out of beating Hull this weekend.

They remind me of our team few years leading up to Roman's takeover, I remember us Ranieris first full season beat United 3-0, Liverpool 4-0 the result sandwiched in between? A 1-0 loss at home to Charlton.

Liverpool on a good day can win well anywhere, even the Camp Nou, but in a 38 game league slogg I question whether they have enough. They could be like what our pre Roman team was, a great cup team (so for that reason I hope they miss out of top 4, hearing about Istanbul even to this day is beyond irritating), but I'd be amazed to see them win or challenge the title.

It's not just that Burnley fixture. Liverpool were also very hot and very cold in the same game, against Arsenal.

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

1 hour ago, quickpassnmove said:

errr... Koeman, which is at least someone with some PL experience already.

I just have to ask the question whether having a long hard look at our deficiencies will spur massive action (getting rid of "dead wood" or sub-standard players in the squad) on the part of both Conte and the CFC board.

I can begin to forgive dumbshit decisions like Torres, deBruyne, not having a top winger while Drogba was still playing with us for years after Robben and Duff, and keeping Mikel as a long-term DM for a decade if someone or some group of people take the initiative and make things right, but I think we're all just waiting, waiting, waiting.  Meanwhile, Dortmund, ManCity and seemingly Everton are waaaaaaaay more entertaining to a general football fan.

Speaking of Koeman, I remember him saying that he would be interested in coaching a club like Chelsea (and that he hoped Hiddink would put in a good word for him as a fellow Dutch manager) 

As for Conte, let's give this guy some time.  Let him clear out deadwood from the first team squad and bring in fresh faces like Kante & Batshuayi

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

 

I have just been contacted by my people and my secret agents service spy group and Conte will be Sacked and Chelsea have signed Diego Simeone on a 3 year Contract and he will be Chelsea FC new manager when Conte gets sacked just before November 30 2016 and Diego Simeone will be put in as CFC manager so that Simeone can bring in new Players in January 2017 Transfer Window.

 

That's all I want to tell you. I cannot give you anymore Info because that's all you need to know.

 

 

 

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Not sure if that's true about Roman 

He should be unhappy with his staff that failed to get Contes targets. 

Its clear to everyone that our defense is shite and we settled for luiz. Not sure about Alonso but i doubt he was first choice. 

Jose got all his targets and Pep got his. You can't do business in the cheap and expect to turn this team around it needs big changes 

 

Replace 

Cahill, Ivan, Matic , Oscar with actual quality and then see how much the team improves. 

Conte screwed up against Liverpool, the lineup was predictable and leaving the subs so late was stupid of him. Apart from that he's got results out of a team with a joke of a back 4 

[Tomo 21,751]

The board and Roman may have had a meeting and may be annoyed with Friday's tactics but the talk of the sack at this stage is laughable, we are talking about the same owner that kept Jose mark 2 and AVB much longer than both deserved.

If we perform like we did vs Liverpool for next 4 months, then yes he could be potentially close to the sack, and rightly so, but I don't think it will come to that, I think he will sort this out and we will get at least 4 points at our second home and the KC stadium.

[Special Juan 28,184]

So if it's true, maybe Roman and the board should look closely at themselves for missing targets such as Nainggolan, Koulibaly and co and maybe, just maybe, the slow and labored stuff is put down to us carrying passengers like Oscar, Matic, Cahill and Ivanovic...All of whom should of been replaced.

[Essien19 1,415]

I call bullshit. Media also read Ancelotti's biography and could speculate based on that. Just like they do with the huge war chest every transfer window.

It didn't work out against Pool, but overall i find the football quite good so far.

Wasn't the news that Abramovich is fed up with the hire and fire?

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[Special Juan 28,184]

So are things turning sour again, already? Or is this more media gunge trying Destabilize Chelsea again?

Courtois speaking out, emergency meeting into the early hours after Friday's game.....surely to god this is not happening again.

[Henrique 9,133]

The board keep making this kind of choice in terms of manager, and at this point I really dont know what they would expect from Conte. Months ago when he was announced, I said it was clear the board seems to hire managers based on some kind of status:

Scolari = World Cup winner, wanted by FA to be English NT.

Ancelotti = Italian giants manager and 2 time UCL winner.

André Villas Boas = Europa League winner.

Mourinho MK2 = well, Chelsea need a big name manager, who else, if Guardiola is not available?

Now Conte. Nobody would dream about Conte when he was with Juventus. I bet if, instead of Italy, he went to manage Greece, the board would not even consider his name, but he was Italy NT coach after all, se he got the spotlights on him. The board must take responsability and at least give Conte some time, and I hope they don't see him as so good that can make this limited squad into top 4.

[Special Juan 28,184]

Hand on heart, this team will not finish top 4 this season. Far too many deficiencies and average players.

[Fernando 6,589]

13 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Hand on heart, this team will not finish top 4 this season. Far too many deficiencies and average players.

It would be interesting if indeed we finish once again outside of the top 4. Because I would like to see what the club would do. 

They already screw up this summer again knowing we was crap last season and doing much of nothing. 

Will they do the same next season?

[Henrique 9,133]

8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

It would be interesting if indeed we finish once again outside of the top 4. Because I would like to see what the club would do. 

They already screw up this summer again knowing we was crap last season and doing much of nothing. 

Will they do the same next season?

I remember last season many people were saying they didn't want Europa League football. Funny thing is: Europa League could be our best bet to reach UCL next season.

 

[AlesJuve 264]

On 19/9/2016 at 9:32 AM, CHOULO19 said:

Any day of the week, my friend. 

If you love the incompetence he is the man for you.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

It would be interesting if indeed we finish once again outside of the top 4. Because I would like to see what the club would do. 

They already screw up this summer again knowing we was crap last season and doing much of nothing. 

Will they do the same next season?

Depends how we fail if we do.

If we fail showing encouraging signs that things will only get better the more Antonio has his signings, then he should stay even if we finish 8th.

If on the other hand we labour to 6th/7th with performances like Friday night for the majority of games for the rest of the season, then I think he will be sacked and I doubt anyone other than people desperate for managerial stability will be that bothered.

[Tomo 21,751]

4 hours ago, Essien19 said:

I call bullshit. Media also read Ancelotti's biography and could speculate based on that. Just like they do with the huge war chest every transfer window.

It didn't work out against Pool, but overall i find the football quite good so far.

Wasn't the news that Abramovich is fed up with the hire and fire?

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I have always believed Roman wants stability on the dugout like the fans do, were he differs from the average supporter however is he will only have it with the right man, whereas the average fan (not only Chelsea football in general) seem to be stuck in the mindset that we could give anyone right down to Ian Dowie time and they would turn into Fergie.

[Antonio8 736]

some supporters deserve coaches like wenger..

also abramovic maybe..

 

[Essien19 1,415]

36 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I have always believed Roman wants stability on the dugout like the fans do, were he differs from the average supporter however is he will only have it with the right man, whereas the average fan (not only Chelsea football in general) seem to be stuck in the mindset that we could give anyone right down to Ian Dowie time and they would turn into Fergie.

Sure, but don't you think that in the past Abramovich valued things which today he wouldn't? Just take a look at the transfer targets, big European players such as Torres or Shevchenko aren't on top of the to do list anymore, so something is different and personally i believe that it somehow also applies to the managers. I know you see it differently, but despite the shocking football for a short amount of time, i don't think that in today's game Abramovich would pull the trigger on Ancelotti. I'd go even further and believe that it could have been something special. Chelsea backed Conte in the transfer market, but there were times, where it could have been more, for example Villas-Boas. Most of the former managers had very good C.Vs.

The thing with Fergie is, they had their ups and dows, but most of the crew always had his back. Ferguson came second or third three years in a row back in 2004-2006, some people thought that he had reached his expiry date, but guess what, he came out on top again. Afterwards they had a very good spell. But to do so, he needed trust and time.

Point is, in the past it was the case that you always had to win something, a bit real-esque. This time around, it could be different. Mourinho survived a spell in which he won nothing, maybe only Mourinho gets away with it, but i think times are different.

[Fernando 6,589]

Roman Abramovich did not hold late-night Chelsea talks after Liverpool loss - Sky sources

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10586046/roman-abramovich-did-not-hold-late-night-chelsea-talks-after-liverpool-loss-sky-sources

[Melanicus 5,208]

18 hours ago, iceboy said:

A source close to Roman Abramovich said: "He was not happy with Conte’s performance, but it’s very early." #CFC (Dailystar)

 Abramovich is understood to be angered by the limp performance of the costly-assembled team on a night, he was in London (Dailystar) #CFC

 Abramovich is also understood to have questioned why Conte waited until the 84th minute to make any substitutions. #CFC (Dailystar)

Conte is known to be unhappy himself that some of the players he targeted in the summer were not signed. #CFC (Dailystar)

Antonio Conte fears the current squad is not strong enough to challenge for the title. #CFC (Dailystar)

Not liking what he saw, Abramovich held lengthy meetings with board members in a bid to find best way forward under Conte. #CFC (Dailystar)

Exclusive: Antonio Conte already under pressure as Roman Abramovich holds club meeting. #CFC (Dailystar)

 Roman Abramovich left the ground in the small hours of Saturday morning still digesting the loss to Liverpool. (Guardian) #CFC #LFC

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Conte should just change to a 3-5-2 and protect our defense. We cannot defend to save our lives. I said before that our defense holds this team back from attacking and will force Conte to change to cope with the shambles. Well it's come faster than I thought. 

Leicester don't even have to play well, just any attack is a goal or nearly a goal.