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People, we just lost at home to Bournemouth. What on earth makes you think we have a realistic chance of winning the Europa League?! :lol:

Because most likely we'll be under a different manager.

Thats why people have this confidence of winning the Europa league. And I can understand that thought process as well too.

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Well we definitely have a better chance of winning it then getting top 4 or winning the CL that's for sure.

At the moment, I would genuinely fancy our chances more against a Bayern where we'd have to sit back a la 2012 than against a EL team. Not saying we can replicate 2012, but I think our chance of winning the EL where motivation would be considerably less are even worse.

because we have to be good at something!

How about Ballet dancing then? :D I'd pay to see JT in a pink skirt :P

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any half decent manager, even someone like brendan rodgers, will be able to do that with this squad.

Because most likely we'll be under a different manager.

Thats why people have this confidence of winning the Europa league. And I can understand that thought process as well too.

No guarantees things will improve instantly under a new manager. I think our chances are too slim to build any actions or expectations on.

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At the moment, I would genuinely fancy our chances more against a Bayern where we'd have to sit back a la 2012 than against a EL team. Not saying we can replicate 2012, but I think our chance of winning the EL where motivation would be considerably less are even worse.

How about Ballet dancing then? :D I'd pay to see JT in a pink skirt :P

Omg yes!!Considering they dont seem to turn up anyway half the time might as well do that while the other team play!Long as he doesnt slip over...

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No guarantees things will improve instantly under a new manager. I think our chances are too slim to build any actions or expectations on.

Same could have been said with Rafa, RDM, Hiddink, etc..

I think chelsea fans have the right to entertain such thoughts.

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Same could have been said with Rafa, RDM, Hiddink, etc..

I think chelsea fans have the right to entertain such thoughts.

But we didn't get RDM or Rafa to win the CL or EL respectively, did we? We brought them in because we wanted to secure top 4 which was still an option at the time. Hiddink was brought in because we could still have won the league.

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But we didn't get RDM or Rafa to win the CL or EL respectively, did we? We brought them in because we wanted to secure top 4 which was still an option at the time. Hiddink was brought in because we could still have won the league.

is that any different from expecting a new potential manager to specifically win the Europa league?

I dont think it is, im going to assume you do.

It basically boils down to, do I/you think turning around league form or winning the Europa league are of the same difficulty.

I think it is, considering this squad ismore talented than the one that won Europa in 2013, and were champions of the PL just last season. And you can throw in our great success with interim managers as well.

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:-( didn't even see it till went to the Bridge and had what seemed a sad moments montage...so close ahhh!least made up :-D

Be nice to have hope from tomorrow even if false.Nice to just win a game or 2 lol

I still want JT to actually play (ideally score in) and win a CL final :(

is that any different from expecting a new potential manager to specifically win the Europa league?

I dont think it is, im going to assume you do.

It basically boils down to, do I/you think turning around league form or winning the Europa league are of the same difficulty.

I think it is, considering this squad ismore talented than the one that won Europa in 2013, and were champions of the PL just last season. And you can throw in our great success with interim managers as well.

No I was trying to say is that ideally we should not build decisions about management based on cups which are unpredictable. League goals are more achievable because over 15-20 games the anomalies are mostly smoothed out.

I think it would be wiser to start making a decision on who should be in charge next season and start calmly planning our summer moves.

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