Closed Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0-4 Chelsea

[Chelsea Buzz 487]

This is getting humorous on the tiebreaker scenarios and rules. There are more explanations than Steven Gerrard goofs.

From the Internet, and we all know how reliable it is (ha!):

The teams are ranked according to points (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss). If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine the rankings (regulations Article 17.01):^[1]

1. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;
2. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;
3. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;
4. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question;

[zolayes 14,489]

A win against Porto and we finish top. A draw we finish second. Sky sports says so and thats final

I can believe it if Sky says that .. BUT not the BBC at one time tonight they had Porto 1st Porto 2nd Kiev 3rd Maccabi 4t h and we werent even listed

[Chelsea Buzz 487]

Matchday 6 permutations:

We can afford to lose and still qualify if Dynamo Kiev fail to beat Maccabi Tel-Aviv but that's unlikely...

Yes! This is correct as I know it. Just like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Seriously, I believe you have it 100% spot on!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think we go through regardless on the combined volume of players' hair which is clearly greater than everyone else's due obviously to the Willian effect...

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Fuck all this math. Just go out there and beat Porto at stamford bridge. It's the mentality of 'a draw is enough' that costed us a place in the quarter finals last year. Dynamo will hundred percent beat Tel aviv.

[Henrique 9,133]

If you are going to correct someone make sure you arent being even more dumb than me lmao...

Btw, I already orrected myself.

lol

Actually we also have 5 points from those games. We might not end in first if Dynamo score enough goals.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

bugger the maths.

I am just happy that my Porto ticket arrived in the post this morning and with quite a bit riding on the game...it should be a cracking atmosphere on the 9th Dec

[illmatic 901]

I didn't see the game, but is great see a result like this after a long time.

The last round will be dramatic.

COME ON BLUES!

[empire of emotions 247]

holy shit we won 2 in a row.

please jose, dont disappoint me, change baba with ivanovic for the next game.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

Have the rules changed? I thought if we finished with a draw Porto you we first based in head to head gold difference. This is assuming dynamo don't draw.

[zolayes 14,489]

Yes! This is correct as I know it. Just like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Seriously, I believe you have it 100% spot on!

EXCEPT they are COMBINATIONS NOT Permutations

[Jase 43,479]

Have the rules changed? I thought if we finished with a draw Porto you we first based in head to head gold difference. This is assuming dynamo don't draw.

Nope. The first tiebreaker in the H2H record if 2 teams are level on points is the number of points collected from the two matches. So a draw with Porto will mean they have the better H2H record against us because they got 4 points while we got only 1.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Jason

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Cash back!

[Eden Hazard 17 28]

In the case of all the 3 teams finishing with 11 points. Does Goal difference among the '3'teams played come into consideration or the 'overall' Goal difference of the group stage matters?

[Jase 43,479]

In the case of all the 3 teams finishing with 11 points. Does Goal difference among the '3'teams played come into consideration or the 'overall' Goal difference of the group stage matters?

The former - http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/20753-ucl-qualification-permutations-and-combinations/?p=1180085

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Nope. The first tiebreaker in the H2H record if 2 teams are level on points is the number of points collected from the two matches. So a draw with Porto will mean they have the better H2H record against us because they got 4 points while we got only 1.

and they only got 1 v Kiev and kiev only got 1 v us......next stage is?

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Cash back!

Back of the net !

[Barbara 15,149]

highlights anyone?