manpe 10,861 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Against West Ham we showed great spirit, vs Stoke we played very well and created many chances.Even when we are creating some chances they are all flukes, improvised by the players in the moment. We play no consistent patterns, no one-twos, no nothing. Players are too far from each other when in possession meaning no shapes are formed to combine past pressing and defenses. How often do we see some player trying to make a run for it only for our brilliant players to completely ignore it and pass sideways. That's why we don't score open play goals, the offensive coaching is very primitive (can't use the pass-to-Hazard-and-see-what-happens tactic anymore because the guy isn't producing).Oscar pissed me off. He is supposed to be the passer among the wooden legs, but he doesn't know what a through ball is these days or when he remembers, he lacks the skill or brain to pull off what look to be simple passes forward (not fucking sideways to a static Zouma. Kenedy or whoever was overlapping all night long). Fabregas is shit, but as a playmaker/passer he is 100x better than Oscar even in his worst form.We are facing the grim reality of our players being simply not good enough. Last year they got some kind of mental boost from whatever Mou did, but this year we are seeing how much they actually can do when shit hits the fan and there is no-one to bail them out. Used to be Hazard, but even he is human and cannot carry this bunch on his own for years and years. He needs help in a difficult situation. Mourinho has repeatedly hinted that this group is weak mentally and it is true. I'm not sure they will respond to rough handling. We need a sports psychologist in the team (if we don't have one already) and an attacking coach (if we do have one, then sack him and hire Ten Cate or whoever).There are three possible options. Either the players are complete morons and cannot apply what they practice in training in a game, or they do apply and the problem isn't the players. Or we are simply cursed, going paranormal for unexplainable might be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I didn't get to watch the match but I hear that yet again we deserved to win, and we found our attacking football in the locker again. Liverpool is the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I didn't get to watch the match but I hear that yet again we deserved to win, and we found our attacking football in the locker again. I didn't see the 1st half, but what attacking game judging by 2nd half and ET? Yes we were attacking more because we were chasing the game obivously, but we were clueless in the final third yet again. Our only goal came from a scrappy corner situation and we couldn't put one past 10 men, one of whom was injured and limping for the last ~5 minutes. Never threatened their box, mostly hopeful long shots. 1st half must have been fantastic if anybody can say it was a good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 1st half was very good, 2nd half okay, ET terrible. Since we couldn't score for half an hour against a 10 men Stoke we didn't deserve to win on penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We play no consistent patterns, no one-twos, no nothing.That's what really bothers me (and im jelous of constant one-twos plays by City, especially with Silva on) - our pattern in attack is waiting for defence error, when some of our player is left without marking. However when it happens other players are already marked well and this player is isolated in attack and usually ends in bad dribbling, or pass to the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 1st half was very good, 2nd half okay, ET terrible. Since we couldn't score for half an hour against a 10 men Stoke we didn't deserve to win on penalties.Define 'very good'. I didn't watch the first half but have seen a lot of people say the same thing as you there. Any past performances you can use as reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Define 'very good'. I didn't watch the first half but have seen a lot of people say the same thing as you there. Any past performances you can use as reference?For me our two best performances this season were 1st half against Arsenal and 1st half last night against Stoke.Very good in terms of overall attacking play, with a few clear cut chances chances created from open play, plenty of good passing and runs in behind their back line.. Improvement was definitely there to see, but it stopped in the second half and especially ET when we became shit again. Even defensively we were decent in the 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Three, in truth: a; there's no guarantee we'll qualify in the UCL, and b; we're going out in the first knockout round if we do.true but least if do go out have a chance in Europa..till get knocked out of that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Define 'very good'. I didn't watch the first half but have seen a lot of people say the same thing as you there. Any past performances you can use as reference?Pressing was good, aerial duels were mostly won I think, high energy level all over the pitch. Everyone looked in control of the ball (even Ramires), passing was positive and good, the players were moving intelligently causing Stoke all kinds of problems. Costa was particularly good, he wasn't fighting with the ball. In fact, he looked as in control as he ever will. Mikel was surprisingly good as well. Hazard and Willian were leading the troops.The final pass was lacking though and you can't ignore that. But then again, creating clear-cut chances was always an issue. Ramires wasted a brilliant opportunity after a Baba through pass (Baba was offside when he received the ball but don't tell the conspiracy theorists). I have a hard time remembering another golden opportunity. The rest were more half chances.Stoke was poor but you could argue Chelsea made them look weak. They created a great chance after some beautiful play right before half-time but I think they only slightly threatened at times before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Define 'very good'. I didn't watch the first half but have seen a lot of people say the same thing as you there. Any past performances you can use as reference?In the first half it looked like the Chelsea of old.Fast running, four or five good chances, we should have gone ahead really.Not so in the second half, even before their goal - we were down physically.In the ET some good chances again -against 10 men now- but again no penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 In the first half it looked like the Chelsea of old.Fast running, four or five good chances, we should have gone ahead really.Not so in the second half, even before their goal - we were down physically.In the ET some good chances again -against 10 men now- but again no penetration.that was pretty much how I saw it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Define 'very good'. I didn't watch the first half but have seen a lot of people say the same thing as you there. Any past performances you can use as reference?And Hazard made few very good dribblings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 In the first half it looked like the Chelsea of old.Fast running, four or five good chances, we should have gone ahead really.Not so in the second half, even before their goal - we were down physically.In the ET some good chances again -against 10 men now- but again no penetration.The second half was definitely not so good. We didn't really create too much. Lacked penetration, which has been the story for some time. Our best chance of scoring these days is from a set piece. The last time we actually scored some good goals in game was against West Brom and that was in August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Got to take the positives and move forward now. We need up that level against Liverpool again come Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 i think the pool game will be the game where we turn the tide.That is one way we are fooling ourselves. Every match we say that this one will change things unfortunately it doesn't look like anything is changing except the level of unluckiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If i need to be honest, they could score more goals as us. Walters could score hat-trick if he had more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 339 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 8 losts. Twice as many as whole of last season. It's October. Well played Weng, sorry, Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 at least we were better at pks than United...But than again, united have more english players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 All the more disappointed now Arsenal and United are out. We'd be playing Sheffield Wednesday at home had fate been a little less cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The best football manager of all time:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jen%C5%91_Csakn%C3%A1dy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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