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IMO we have had three major problems today:

1. Our defense. Zouma is not a right-back and Diego Costa has had a big mistake in the first goal.

2. Matic has had a totally unrecognizable attitude in a player like him, with his experience and tactical intelligence. IMO the second yellow card was totally absurd and he had to have been smarter.

3. Our big problem. We do not have a N.10 to connect our midfield and Diego Costa. We played like a broken team in the creation of game
and we continually get stuck on the pitch. We need a playmaker to add speed to our ball movement and to connect our midfield with Diego Costa and Eden Hazard.
To change this we can do several things.

1. Defense. Change everything and start a revolution in thinking about the future Azpilicueta - Zouma - Cahill - Baba. Each in their proper place without experiments.

2. Add creative players like Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Oscar or Pedro in our midfield.

3. Diego has to participate more in the collective game. IMO Diego is the best forward in the world, but he has to forget the silly fights and help our midfielders.

4. Hazard must change his behavior radically. Jose can not be the only guilty in, the description of our problems. Hazard has to assume their own mistakes and stop blaming others for their poor performance.
Jose is doing their approaches terribly wrong, but the players also have their own responsibility and they have to change their mind. Jose and the players have to change their mind of an fully radically mode.
By the way, this situation is maddening...
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IMO we have had three major problems today:

1. Our defense. Zouma is not a right-back and Diego Costa has had a big mistake in the first goal.

2. Matic has had a totally unrecognizable attitude in a player like him, with his experience and tactical intelligence. IMO the second yellow card was totally absurd and he had to have been smarter.

3. Our big problem. We do not have a N.10 to connect our midfield and Diego Costa. We played like a broken team in the creation of game

and we continually get stuck on the pitch. We need a playmaker to add speed to our ball movement and to connect our midfield with Diego Costa and Eden Hazard.

To change this we can do several things.

1. Defense. Change everything and start a revolution in thinking about the future Azpilicueta - Zouma - Cahill - Baba. Each in their proper place without experiments.

2. Add creative players like Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Oscar or Pedro in our midfield.

3. Diego has to participate more in the collective game. IMO Diego is the best forward in the world, but he has to forget the silly fights and help our midfielders.

4. Hazard must change his behavior radically. Jose can not be the only guilty in, the description of our problems. Hazard has to assume their own mistakes and stop blaming others for their poor performance.

Jose is doing their approaches terribly wrong, but the players also have their own responsibility and they have to change their mind. Jose and the players have to change their mind of an fully radically mode.

By the way, this situation is maddening...

Mate - so what you are saying is

Jose needs to manage like a different manager :)

Isn't that what most of us are saying? But guess what he will not. That's the simple answer

Hence me saying if Jose won't change - then he needs to be changed

As soon as Zouma was announced as RB I knew today would be a clusterfuck and I decided to spend my well earned weekend doing something to make me happy - that used to be watching Chelsea on any stream I could get, but not today.

I'm sick and tired of the ridiculous tactics and failure to address glaring issues that even Stevie fucking Wonder can see...

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Mate - so what you are saying is

Jose needs to manage like a different manager :)

Isn't that what most of us are saying? But guess what he will not. That's the simple answer

Hence me saying if Jose won't change - then he needs to be changed

As soon as Zouma was announced as RB I knew today would be a clusterfuck and I decided to spend my well earned weekend doing something to make me happy - that used to be watching Chelsea on any stream I could get, but not today.

I'm sick and tired of the ridiculous tactics and failure to address glaring issues that even Stevie fucking Wonder can see...

Hi friend!

Totally agree with you.

Jose is out of himself right now and he has to make a radical change in his mind. Jose has forgotten coaching and now he is only focused on defending against the attacks of the press as his big obsession.

Since the season started all the approaches developed by Jose have been wrong.

Jose is the best coach I've seen doing approaches in big games. But since he abandoned Real Madrid IMO Jose has lost the motivation to continue being a manager and now he is out of himself and obsessed with vindicate himself as the "bus manager".

I still defend Jose because I think the whole club is in a similar situation. We have an atmosphere of generalized paroxysms which affects all the world, both the players and Jose.

That's why I think what we have to do is restart our mind and start from 0. IMO if we look for another coach that will not fix our problems. We have a mental block and another manager would not change our situation. But all of us together. And everyone has to take responsibility for their own mistakes and make a strong change of attitude. Jose is guilty, but other players are also guilty.

Jose does not have to be another manager, Jose must be the manager that he has traditionally been and regain confidence in himself. Forgetting some stupid "mind games" and returning to be a manager with a winning mentality forgetting the conservative approaches.

Regards.

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Toys get thrown out the pram on here, every time we lose. Then as soon as we win they are all superstars again.

Not so much this season so far.We've lost 5 and including other comps won 5 so less chance of thinking their superstars so far lol.

Just crazy how it's changed so quickly.

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Just seen what Matic done on MOTD. What can his explanation be? Someone mentioned it was like he almost done it on purpose. It literally looked like he did. Was a ridiculous thing to do and Azpi had it covered anyway. Mind boggling. Feels so awful being a Chelsea fan right now.

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Just seen what Matic done on MOTD. What can his explanation be? Someone mentioned it was like he almost done it on purpose. It literally looked like he did. Was a ridiculous thing to do and Azpi had it covered anyway. Mind boggling. Feels so awful being a Chelsea fan right now.

He's a bit of a birdbrain tbh, clearly didn't think

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One thing we know for sure is Jose is jose and wont ever change. He will blame the grass before he will admit his mistakes and blame himself and try to do things differently.

Worst is that he keeps blaming refs and speaks himself as greatest manager of all time who is never wrong. With that attitude we wont improve for a while.

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I really don't want them to sack Jose I just think that's the easy way out and it won't help anybody. We need to look deeper into our problems and realize that too many of our players are passengers and a few of them were passengers even last season. The midfield of Fab and Matic just can't contain or create anything of note, we consistently get over run and Matic is struggling to keep up. Hazard comes too narrow and he is sucking the life out of our attacks by constantly coming inside. Diego can't do much at the minute because we can't seem to find angles for a pass to him so he's a sitting duck. Zouma is not a right back, Terry is really struggling as the years get by and Begovic is poor !

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One thing we know for sure is Jose is jose and wont ever change. He will blame the grass before he will admit his mistakes and blame himself and try to do things differently.

Worst is that he keeps blaming refs and speaks himself as greatest manager of all time who is never wrong. With that attitude we wont improve for a while.

This same tired nonsense despite him having said that he is responsible in quite a few post match interviews recently.

He might toss blame all over the place but he has taken responsibility also. I swear people hear what they want to hear.

And what does the other side of that coin sound like anyway? Does he come out every week and say it's all his fault?

I'm a big José fan but I don't think he is beyond critique and some of his decisions are questionable. However, most of our players aren't performing, we are suffering from bad decisions and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green. There's plenty of blame to go round and José has taken his fair share despite what you want to believe.

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Matic let the team down. Zouma is worse than Ivanovic at RB. Hazard wants to go to Madrid? Wont even get into their B team. Only a handful of players deserve to be wearing the shirt. Shambles all round.

I attribute each point in your post to Mourinho. I don't know how he did it but he just turned Hazard from class to utter shit. Playing Zouma out of position was that a way to get Ivanovic back in the team?

We still continue to play bad football, getting bad results and still don't play the game as it is supposed to be played.

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I'm a big José fan but I don't think he is beyond critique and some of his decisions are questionable. However, most of our players aren't performing, we are suffering from bad decisions and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green. There's plenty of blame to go round and José has taken his fair share despite what you want to believe.

Thats because he is the one who got himself into this mess. Right from the word go he has been doing things on and off the press that has tarnished our image and his image among the players, fans, referees, and the media.

The manager who was hailed to get the best out of players can seem to get the ordinary stuff out of some of the extraordinary players that we have in out team.

We are now on the verge of losing one of the most touted and talented player, who is to blame ? I can't state this enough but we acquired shit players while selling some of the good ones.

We are in this mess because of Mourinho, I refuse to believe that our players suddenly just started playing shit for no apparent reason. Clearly the atmosphere in the dressing room isn't looking pretty.

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Mate - so what you are saying is

Jose needs to manage like a different manager :)

Isn't that what most of us are saying? But guess what he will not. That's the simple answer

Hence me saying if Jose won't change - then he needs to be changed

As soon as Zouma was announced as RB I knew today would be a clusterfuck and I decided to spend my well earned weekend doing something to make me happy - that used to be watching Chelsea on any stream I could get, but not today.

I'm sick and tired of the ridiculous tactics and failure to address glaring issues that even Stevie fucking Wonder can see...

Exact same thing here. Weekends used to be waking up early and used to enjoy watching Chelsea play but the way we are playing( not even the results) just frustrates me and spoils my weekend more than anything.

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