cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Moan time.Drab affair.The Ukrainians might have scored one if the teams were still playing.Against such teams we used to be home and dry well before half time. Well, unless we hit the cross bar some 25 times or some such mishaps occured.Buildup ?Towards the end way three of our players started a good looking move down the right flank then all three of them dimmed all of sudden. In the end the ball goes to Zouma who fouls his opponent.Do you realize that half of our goals have been from direct free kicks ? Willian's trick shots. Plus Villa's give away against on Sat. That makes things look even less good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Very positive. Happy with the performance, the score could have been 1-3 or something like that.That was Dynamo Kiyv against Chelsea. Not Dynamo Kiyv against PAOK Salonika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,146 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Good point once again as stated but we could have easily beat them if we put in more attacking effort. I am sure of it. Just look what happened with them on Friday evening. Remember when we actually went all out offensive with Mourinho away from home in the CL last season and battered Schalke 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 a good away performance. european away nights are never ever easy. look at bayern. there is a bigger difference between bayern and arsenal than there is between chelsea and kiev at the moment.i honestly thought this was our best performance this season and infact our best performance in a long long time.we defended brilliantly. we attacked well and we deserved a win.begovic - nothing to do in the first half but made a couple of good saves in the second. that palm away was a life saver. 8/10zouma - a few poor moments in the first half but after the nervy start he was absolutely brilliant. how many points could we have saved with this obvious solution. :sigh: 7/10GC - flawless. covered JT a couple of times. wonderful last ditch tackles. a brilliant performance. 10/10JT - was solid most of the game. a poor clearance could have killed us. 7/10azpi - man oh man!!! this guy is too good. owned yarmelenko. absolutely owned him. 10/10matic - "awful". for me despite his apparent "awful" start to the season, this should have been his 4th MOTM performance (city, palace, everton and now kiev). this is what happens when you dont have mister no balls along side you. i have been saying this, and i will reiterate, matic's "loss of form" was as much his fault as the defensively incompetent partner that he was given. had a brilliant performance and he should have scored too. 10/10ramires - oh dear. his youth coaches should be given a kick up their asses. there are 2 aspects of a football game - attack and defence. rambo needs to learn the former. cant count the number of times he won the ball by a tackle or an interception or this or that. and i cant count the number of times he lost the ball straight away due to a poor pass. that pass to hazard on the counter which was just a bit behind him killed the whole momentum of the counter. he should have crossed the ball well on 2 occasion specially when their left back slipped and lost the ball. nonetheless we have found our midfield 2. be it against bournemouth/watford or city/untied. simply cos when cesc play in the mid 2, we have to score 3 goals to win a game, playing rambo, we might be able to do that with 1.attack - 2/10, defence - 10/10cesc - a "decent" performance by his standard. did not lose the ball as much, held the ball better, passed it better. but no where near good enough. should be dropped. 6/10hazard - showed some glimpses of the old hazard. a few. still a long way to go before we can say he is back. unlucky not to score. 6/10willian - another awesome performance. his setpieces have become so good that its unreal. honestly, where the fuck has this come from? his overall play has improved too. so sad that most of the attackers (cesc, hazard, costa) were average. 8/10costa - aerially - non-existent. hold up play - nonexistent. link up play - dont even bother. the only good thing was around and closing down. but even that was useless cos cesc could not be bothered. a very poor showing. 4/10subs -oscar - subpar. but looking at our condition, should get the nod ahead of cesc for whu more cos of cesc and how he will get bullied on and off the ball by whu than anything else. 5/10win against kiev at home and we are almost through. getting to the next round is important more than the position. but some positive signs. i honestly can take away more positives from this draw than that win against villa. COME ON CHELSEA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballover 222 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Best thing about that game was Matic's performance. I think he is our backbone and the most important player alongside Eden. We are getting there but we still need to gain some confidence, we need this shots that hit the woodwork to go in, we need to win comfortably a match or two, we need some luck. Willian continues his fantastic form, Cesc was all right, Rambo and Matic - excellent. I thought our defence and Begovic in goal were really solid and I think that this goalie organizes them pretty well. Zouma is no right back but he was a good choice and hopefully these experiences at different roles on the pitch will eventually transform him to a better CB and all around player. Overall it was a good performance and we need to build on it. Onto the next one! COYB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Begovic - 7 - had little to do, but what he needed to deal with he did so with great competence.Zouma - 6 - looked very uncomfortable at right-back but put in a good - but not spectacular - performance which helped us to maintain a defensive structure. Almost non-existent going forward. Cahill - 8 - a good performance, bailed Terry out on a couple of occasions and read the game well. Marshalled the defence effectively. Terry - 6 - not a poor game, but not convincing, either. A poor clearance could have killed us and his passing from the back lacked its usual incisiveness. Azpilicueta - 8 - flawless against a talented winger. Nothing else needs to be said. Fabregas - 6 - better from him in the first half, but when the going got tough after the break, he vanished. Deservedly pulled off, though his incisive passing was missing as we pushed for a late winner. Matic - 8 - his best performance in some time, but he really, really should have scored. His lack of presence in the attacking third is what differentiates him from other deep-lying midfielders in the Premier League such as Herrera or Toure.Ramires - 6 - defensively imperious, but he killed every attack. Literally. All of their attacks, and all of ours, too. His inability to complete a basic five-yard pass slowed down attack after attack, but his dynamism in midfield makes us a lot harder to break down.Hazard - 5 - glimpses, but that's it. Invisible for much of the game. Deservedly benched at the weekend and he can have no complaints if the same transpires on Saturday. Willian - 7 - he had a mixed night from set-pieces - one brilliant delivery that Costa should have buried and another that hit the woodwork - but the rest of his free-kicks were wasted and criminally underhit. His defensive work-rate is fantastic and at the moment he is the only player in the midfield who should have a guaranteed starting spot based on merit alone.Costa - 5 - he had some good moments in the first half, but should have scored from a Willian free-kick. Easily nullified by the opposition.Sub - Oscar - 5 - little chance to make an impact on the game in his 15-minute cameo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 a good away performance. european away nights are never ever easy. look at bayern. there is a bigger difference between bayern and arsenal than there is between chelsea and kiev at the moment.i honestly thought this was our best performance this season and infact our best performance in a long long time.we defended brilliantly. we attacked well and we deserved a win.begovic - nothing to do in the first half but made a couple of good saves in the second. that palm away was a life saver. 8/10zouma - a few poor moments in the first half but after the nervy start he was absolutely brilliant. how many points could we have saved with this obvious solution. :sigh: 7/10GC - flawless. covered JT a couple of times. wonderful last ditch tackles. a brilliant performance. 10/10JT - was solid most of the game. a poor clearance could have killed us. 7/10azpi - man oh man!!! this guy is too good. owned yarmelenko. absolutely owned him. 10/10matic - "awful". for me despite his apparent "awful" start to the season, this should have been his 4th MOTM performance (city, palace, everton and now kiev). this is what happens when you dont have mister no balls along side you. i have been saying this, and i will reiterate, matic's "loss of form" was as much his fault as the defensively incompetent partner that he was given. had a brilliant performance and he should have scored too. 10/10ramires - oh dear. his youth coaches should be given a kick up their asses. there are 2 aspects of a football game - attack and defence. rambo needs to learn the former. cant count the number of times he won the ball by a tackle or an interception or this or that. and i cant count the number of times he lost the ball straight away due to a poor pass. that pass to hazard on the counter which was just a bit behind him killed the whole momentum of the counter. he should have crossed the ball well on 2 occasion specially when their left back slipped and lost the ball. nonetheless we have found our midfield 2. be it against bournemouth/watford or city/untied. simply cos when cesc play in the mid 2, we have to score 3 goals to win a game, playing rambo, we might be able to do that with 1.attack - 2/10, defence - 10/10cesc - a "decent" performance by his standard. did not lose the ball as much, held the ball better, passed it better. but no where near good enough. should be dropped. 6/10hazard - showed some glimpses of the old hazard. a few. still a long way to go before we can say he is back. unlucky not to score. 6/10willian - another awesome performance. his setpieces have become so good that its unreal. honestly, where the fuck has this come from? his overall play has improved too. so sad that most of the attackers (cesc, hazard, costa) were average. 8/10costa - aerially - non-existent. hold up play - nonexistent. link up play - dont even bother. the only good thing was around and closing down. but even that was useless cos cesc could not be bothered. a very poor showing. 4/10subs -oscar - subpar. but looking at our condition, should get the nod ahead of cesc for whu more cos of cesc and how he will get bullied on and off the ball by whu than anything else. 5/10win against kiev at home and we are almost through. getting to the next round is important more than the position. but some positive signs. i honestly can take away more positives from this draw than that win against villa. COME ON CHELSEA!!!agreed with all apart from cahill, looked somewhat shaky , and almost made 2 huge errors. costa was a nightmare. such an elephant on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 You mean to tell me that players with years of experience at club and international level can't strike a ball because the training has them scared to do so? Behave.confidence plays a part in shooting? no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Good point once again as stated but we could have easily beat them if we put in more attacking effort. I am sure of it. Just look what happened with them on Friday evening. Remember when we actually went all out offensive with Mourinho away from home in the CL last season and battered Schalke 5-0 Best performance under Mourinho by far. Sadly it turned out to be a one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 BT Sport commentator constantly calling Begovic 'Courtois' :confused: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Considering how we have been playing to keep a clean sheet and get something from the game not a bad result.Could've been better but also could've been worse.The ref.. bit pointless again.Clear pen right in front but what can you do..annoyingBT commentary is painful to listen to,surely someone would've told him the first time its not Courtois not let him carry on...woops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 173 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Some people are saying great performance? Wait WHAT?!Are you confusing Chelsea with Sunderland? Absolute shit performance. We cant even score a goal... Absolutley patheic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Some people are saying great performance? Wait WHAT?!Are you confusing Chelsea with Sunderland?Absolute shit performance. We cant even score a goal... Absolutley patheic!The same time you cannot believe people are claiming a great performance and you also brand it 'Absolutely pathetic' It was neither great or pathetic.Lets put things into context. That was a tough place to go, and that's not even taking into consideration our current form. We have lots of players performing way below the expected standard, and barring the woodwork twice and a blatant bad penalty decision it could of been very different. Right now we need momentum, last night some players such as Matic started looking a lot better, so hopefully that continues into the WHU game at the weekend.I don't think I have read anywhere on here that thought last night would be a breeze, because a culmination of bad form and under performing players was being taken into this game against a very solid Dynamo side.That point last night could be huge for our qualification purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 AS a result it was vital and as good as could reasonably have been expected . As a performance possibly the third best of a miserable season . The next two months are not going to be easy. Results matter more than performances atm .. But eventually performances will have to improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Positives:Superb support from our boys n gals going all that wayFantastic attitude Two clean sheets on the trot Matic Willian Costa behaved and looks leaner Better from Cesc Arsenal now park our bus Spurs are still a Thursday night team Jose got the boys up for it...one and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 a good away performance. european away nights are never ever easy. look at bayern. there is a bigger difference between bayern and arsenal than there is between chelsea and kiev at the moment.i honestly thought this was our best performance this season and infact our best performance in a long long time.we defended brilliantly. we attacked well and we deserved a win.begovic - nothing to do in the first half but made a couple of good saves in the second. that palm away was a life saver. 8/10zouma - a few poor moments in the first half but after the nervy start he was absolutely brilliant. how many points could we have saved with this obvious solution. :sigh: 7/10GC - flawless. covered JT a couple of times. wonderful last ditch tackles. a brilliant performance. 10/10JT - was solid most of the game. a poor clearance could have killed us. 7/10azpi - man oh man!!! this guy is too good. owned yarmelenko. absolutely owned him. 10/10matic - "awful". for me despite his apparent "awful" start to the season, this should have been his 4th MOTM performance (city, palace, everton and now kiev). this is what happens when you dont have mister no balls along side you. i have been saying this, and i will reiterate, matic's "loss of form" was as much his fault as the defensively incompetent partner that he was given. had a brilliant performance and he should have scored too. 10/10ramires - oh dear. his youth coaches should be given a kick up their asses. there are 2 aspects of a football game - attack and defence. rambo needs to learn the former. cant count the number of times he won the ball by a tackle or an interception or this or that. and i cant count the number of times he lost the ball straight away due to a poor pass. that pass to hazard on the counter which was just a bit behind him killed the whole momentum of the counter. he should have crossed the ball well on 2 occasion specially when their left back slipped and lost the ball. nonetheless we have found our midfield 2. be it against bournemouth/watford or city/untied. simply cos when cesc play in the mid 2, we have to score 3 goals to win a game, playing rambo, we might be able to do that with 1.attack - 2/10, defence - 10/10cesc - a "decent" performance by his standard. did not lose the ball as much, held the ball better, passed it better. but no where near good enough. should be dropped. 6/10hazard - showed some glimpses of the old hazard. a few. still a long way to go before we can say he is back. unlucky not to score. 6/10willian - another awesome performance. his setpieces have become so good that its unreal. honestly, where the fuck has this come from? his overall play has improved too. so sad that most of the attackers (cesc, hazard, costa) were average. 8/10costa - aerially - non-existent. hold up play - nonexistent. link up play - dont even bother. the only good thing was around and closing down. but even that was useless cos cesc could not be bothered. a very poor showing. 4/10subs -oscar - subpar. but looking at our condition, should get the nod ahead of cesc for whu more cos of cesc and how he will get bullied on and off the ball by whu than anything else. 5/10win against kiev at home and we are almost through. getting to the next round is important more than the position. but some positive signs. i honestly can take away more positives from this draw than that win against villa. COME ON CHELSEA!!!Came on here to post my ratings but you pretty much nailed it there.Only things I would disagree with is that I thought Cahill was average and made a few mistakes so would have given him 6 or 7 and that Costa shouldn't have had such a low rating because while you're right about everything you said I feel like if any of his fellow attackers bar Willian bothered to close down with him he'd have contributed to us winning the ball back numerous more times as he really worked hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Disgusting. Four black guys battered in the stands last nighthttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/21/uefa-investigate-attack-black-fans-dynamo-kyiv-chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapo Blues 21 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Accepted the result.Hazard is back, I hope the madrid silly rumours is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Kiev now charged over the racist crowd trouble. url=http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/21/uefa-investigate-attack-black-fans-dynamo-kyiv-chelsea]http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/21/uefa-investigate-attack-black-fans-dynamo-kyiv-chelsea<br I knew it wasnt Chelsea -It would have been headlines in the media, Cameron would have made a statement, Bank y Moon would have mentioned it in the UN Security Council........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Kiev now charged over the racist crowd trouble.url=http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/21/uefa-investigate-attack-black-fans-dynamo-kyiv-chelsea]http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/21/uefa-investigate-attack-black-fans-dynamo-kyiv-chelsea<br I knew it wasnt Chelsea -It would have been headlines in the media, Cameron would have made a statement, Bank y Moon would have mentioned it in the UN Security Council........Chelsea are enemy of the state, and to be honest I've come to love the label. Fuck the lot of em, we're the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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