The Mourinho Thread

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Our stats are also bellow level (the likes of United, City, Everton, Lpool,...) have better passing and ball possession. I know we play counter football, based on defending, which results in passing acc. and ball possession, but those are basic things. Passing, keeping the ball. You improve that and you get more options how to play the game, how to score...but not to go too far with that, think tikitaka, which results in passive attacking, leading to less efficiency.

But imo our finishing is number one thing to improve. We are horible. We had more shots on goal than City, yet we scored 30! goals less. Talking about efficiency and chance conversion. Its terrible here.

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho ready to get one over Sam Allardyce as pair face-off at Soccer Aid

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Two things that have to improve

Finishing (mostly players fault, partly Mou for not improving, motivating)

Versatility (mostlycMou fault, partly players for lack of dynamism)

Fix that and we are almost there.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Our stats are also bellow level (the likes of United, City, Everton, Lpool,...) have better passing and ball possession. I know we play counter football, based on defending, which results in passing acc. and ball possession, but those are basic things. Passing, keeping the ball. You improve that and you get more options how to play the game, how to score...but not to go too far with that, think tikitaka, which results in passive attacking, leading to less efficiency.

But imo our finishing is number one thing to improve. We are horible. We had more shots on goal than City, yet we scored 30! goals less. Talking about efficiency and chance conversion. Its terrible here.

Nice. That's why the clinical striker is important. A striker good in tight spaces or can use his physical strength to create space for himself and shoot.

Two things that have to improve

Finishing (mostly players fault, partly Mou for not improving, motivating)

Versatility (mostlycMou fault, partly players for lack of dynamism)

Fix that and we are almost there.

Not just that.

1. We also need team combinations. 1-2 movements between hazard and willian is needed and with the striker. We need a constant front 4 again with no rotation to increase team chemistry.

2. I heard that pellegrini trains with his team in shooting practice at the etihad stadium a day before home matches. We could adopt similar methods to increase our accuracy in finishing.

3. Also hazard needs the leftback to support, we can't have him marked by 3 people and not let a runner take advantage of the space. If we are building the team around him, we should do it properly with more team support.

4. We need to learn how to keep possession too. It will help conserve pressing energy in matches so that the players can rest a little. Be like athletico, perfect pressing and good on the ball with two full backs going forward at EVERY attack. We shouldn't just play like they met each other for the first time when opposition let us have the ball, we should have more passing triangles especially in the attacking third.

5. We play too slow!! Increase the tempo and we force defenders to make mistakes. This is our biggest problem against small teams.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Nice. That's why the clinical striker is important. A striker good in tight spaces or can use his physical strength to create space for himself and shoot.

Not just that.

1. We also need team combinations. 1-2 movements between hazard and willian is needed and with the striker. We need a constant front 4 again with no rotation to increase team chemistry.

2. I heard that pellegrini trains with his team in shooting practice at the etihad stadium a day before home matches. We could adopt similar methods to increase our accuracy in finishing.

3. Also hazard needs the leftback to support, we can't have him marked by 3 people and not let a runner take advantage of the space. If we are building the team around him, we should do it properly with more team support.

4. We need to learn how to keep possession too. It will help conserve pressing energy in matches so that hazard can rest a little. Be like athletico, perfect pressing and good on the ball with two full backs going forward at EVERY attack.

Sure, I was just pointing most important things. We already plenty of shots this year. If we can improve the shooting, we will score and win more. There were games where we couldnt break opponent. With versatility we will do that and w will win more games. But for that we need few new players, current players to improve and more team work in team when going into attack (we were pretty solid in defending already).

However pressing, they way Bvb or Atletico does, is something you dont 'learn' in year or two. It takes years of adjusting, team work etc. It also requires special type of players and very good understanding in the team.

There is reason why two "outsiders" got similar tactcs. They have strong mentality, they are not superstars, they would die to win those games. And they dont have such pressure when playing; team like Chelsea has extremely big pressure I feel (just compare lpool and our strikers; they play for fun, while here, everyone is afraid of failing).

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Sure, I was just pointing most important things. We already plenty of shots this year. If we can improve the shooting, we will score and win more. There were games where we couldnt break opponent. With versatility we will do that and w will win more games. But for that we need few new players, current players to improve and more team work in team when going into attack (we were pretty solid in defending already).

However pressing, they way Bvb or Atletico does, is something you dont 'learn' in year or two. It takes years of adjusting, team work etc. It also requires special type of players and very good understanding in the team.

There is reason why two "outsiders" got similar tactcs. They have strong mentality, they are not superstars, they would die to win those games. And they dont have such pressure when playing; team like Chelsea has extremely big pressure I feel (just compare lpool and our strikers; they play for fun, while here, everyone is afraid of failing).

We look so uncomfortable on the ball sometimes and looks like we don't want the ball... its ridiculous

But our slow tempo is a big issue, if we attack faster, mistakes will happen even in tight defences. So we should attack with much quicker tempo and stop playing so slow like grannys

[LAB 1,030]

It must be clear to everybody by now how important it is for a team in rebuilding mode to first secure it's defence. This season it was all about that and i think Mourinho is definitely 100% correct in his ways. Look what happened to Liverpool. They conceded 50 goals this season despite their brilliant attacking. You simply cannot win anything if you're a joke at defending and constantly ignoring it, plus moaning about why rivals didn't play attractive football. Have a look at the legacy he left behind at RM. That performance vs Bayern @ semis was all about Mourino. Give the man proper time and then we can talk about if he failed or not. I am not saying that next season after the transfers complete we cannot ask much more from our attacking play. I am saying that this season we have to be patient and satisfied with his work on our defence.

[Ze Mario 638]

mou watched the FA Youth Final Cup

bit dust of hope watching our youngster next year

[bushman 2,043]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-begin-endofseason-clearout-as-john-obi-mikel-opens-talks-with-inter-milan-9325280.html

Thanks Jose. The garage sale continues.

[Styles 9,790]

It has been a pretty good season, but I wouldn't say we overachieved. I said at the start of the season that I expected a top 3 finish, a deep run in the CL and maybe one of the cups if things go our way. So in that sense we've met expectations, but I wouldn't say we've overachieved IMO.

Overachieving would be winning the league or/and winning the CL.

It's been a good season if you're looking purely at the results and compared to the car crash that was the 12-13 season.

In terms of an actual transition there hasn't been much improvement at all. We're in the same position we have been for many years i.e. needing to spend another 100m+ to improve the way we play and our chances of winning silverware.

[Ze Mario 638]

cant wait for brilliant football like matches against liverpool home and city away become our permanent/consistent football in the upcoming season

[The only place to be 11,313]

It's been a good season if you're looking purely at the results and compared to the car crash that was the 12-13 season.

In terms of an actual transition there hasn't been much improvement at all. We're in the same position we have been for many years i.e. needing to spend another 100m+ to improve the way we play and our chances of winning silverware.

Gross or net? Personally I think we're a decent striker away from winning the league especially with the young players we have coming through.

I think you're being massively pessimistic which is in vogue amongst 6 or 7 posters on here.

[Styles 9,790]

Gross or net? Personally I think we're a decent striker away from winning the league especially with the young players we have coming through.

I think you're being massively pessimistic which is in vogue amongst 6 or 7 posters on here.

If we are to improve the problem areas we won't get much change from 100m. Possible transfers could be a LB, at least 2 CMs and maybe even 2 CFs. 100m is more or less the amount that's been spent per season for the last 3-4 years.

I'll accept the pessimistic tag; it's a fair summation of my feelings right now to be fair. The transition hasn't been much of a transition if we're honest; no young players integrated and Jose gave up on the supposedly new attacking style 2-3 months into the season which he has admitted himself.

[laura90 556]

I don't blame Mourinho though. We can't play better football with the players we have, training/coaching plays a part but if a player can't pass the ball accurately what do you want the coach to do?

I just saw your quote and you completely misunderstood what I said. Nowhere in that post I was saying that everything wrong this season is Mouirinho's fault. In fact I didn't even mention him.

In the post you quoted I was refering to claims that this season was success, which I disagree with , simply because:

1. we didn't improve our play ( we improved defence but in the same time our attacking play - attacking players regressed - even Hazard in the last two months or so).

Reasons for that are irrelevant (very often I used to say that we need CM and striker to play better, together with attacking fullback and blaming manager for all our flaws in play would be incredibly short minded. I didn't do it with any past manager, and I didn't do it with Mourinho).

The bottom line is we miss some players so our play suffers - story from the last season - very modest improvement, if any. Certainly not enough to call season success.

Success would be if we got the players we needed already and mastered some blueprint in both attack and defence without winning anything.. Or if we overachieved with what we had er won a trophy. But we didn't and that certainly isn't problem for me, I literally never expected it precisely because of what we have and how we play. Which leads to second point:

2. we did not overachieve. Many say we overachieved in the League. Well, looking in the League table through season suggested so. But if you take look away from the numbers you see Manchester United dropping to the new lows and that's the team that used to knock us out of the tittle race. Then you see Man City, other favourite, who suffes series of injuries of key players during season, with new, very naive coach without experience in premier league whatsoever.

In fact this season was kind of anomaly compared to seasons before which enable Arsenal, of all the clubs, to spend the most weeks on the top and Liverpool to get closer to the trophy than in the last 20 + years.

We , on the other hand, had less problems of the pitch than before, better manager than before, almost fantastic injury record untill the second half of april so I don't get this surprise about us being so better than before.

Decent season - yes.

Success - no.

Way lot of work remains to be done to say so.

[Styles 9,790]

I just saw your quote and you completely misunderstood what I said. Nowhere in that post I was saying that everything wrong this season is Mouirinho's fault. In fact I didn't even mention him.

In the post you quoted I was refering to claims that this season was success, with which I disagree , simply because:

1. we didn't improve our play ( we improved defence but in the same time our attacking play - attacking players regressed - even Hazard in the last two months or so).

Reasons for that are irrelevant (very often I used to say that we need CM and striker to play better, together with attacking fullback and blaming manager for all our flaws in play would be incredibly short minded. I didn't do it with any past manager, and I didn't do it with Mourinho).

The bottom line is we miss some players so our play suffers - story from the last season - very modest improvement, if any. Certainly not enough to call seson success.

Success would be if we got the players we needed already and mastered some blueprint in both attack and defence without winning anything.. Or if we overachieved with what we had er won a trophy. But we didn't and that certainly isn't problem for me, I literally never expected it precisely because of what we have and how we play. Which leads to second point:

2. we did not overachieved. Many say we overachieved in the League. Well, looking in the League table through season suggested so. But if you take look away from the numbers you see Manchester United dropping to the new lows and that's the team that used to knock us out of the tittle race. Then you see Man City, other favourite, who suffes series of injuries of key players during season, with new, very naive coach without experience in premier league whatsoever.

In fact this season was kind of anomaly compared to seasons before which enable Arsenal, of all the clubs, to spend the most weeks on the top and Liverpool to get closer to the trophy than in the last 20 + years.

We , on the other hand, had less problems of the pitch than before, better manager than before, almost fantastic injury record untill the second half of april so I don't get this surprise about us being so better than before.

Decent season -yes.

Success - no.

Way lot of work remains to be done to say so.

I think that's a very fair summary. It's clear that our style will not radically improve through coaching (Mourinho gave up trying all together); it's only going to come about by having better players. That's why Mourinho has to make the right signings this summer. We can't go into next season with the same deficiencies.

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The 10 best players, five from Brazil and five from the rest of the world

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The 10 best players, five from Brazil and five from the rest of the world

Chelsea F.C

Brazil

If we take only skill into account, can't deny that they are really great over there