The Mourinho Thread

[manpe 10,861]

I can't be arsed, just read your own post where you mention Lampard playing 160 times on the spin. If you can't see it then there is something wrong.

The point it proves to me is that in my opinion you have a lack of understanding of the game and player mentality of this country.

I have read my post (in fact I wrote it, so I know very well what I did and did not mean) and I can't see where I questioned it. I questioned his team selection for the game against City, yes, but Frank's case I just brought as an example. But for the sake of the argument let's presume I did question it - so what? Are we supposed to agree and praise everything he does, because...? Even Jose himself has said he makes mistakes. I trust the man as much as any, but I don't understand where this thinking comes from that it's taboo to question some of the man's decisions or actions. This is very much a religious approach you're describing, because "God can do no wrong". Well, I'm not one to agree with everything out of blind faith, just not my nature. If it is yours, then fine, but to attack me for being different to you, that's just small.

[Benches not the shed 77]

I have read my post (in fact I wrote it, so I know very well what I did and did not mean) and I can't see where I questioned it. I questioned his team selection for the game against City, yes, but Frank's case I just brought as an example. But for the sake of the argument let's presume I did question it - so what? Are we supposed to agree and praise everything he does, because...? Even Jose himself has said he makes mistakes. I trust the man as much as any, but I don't understand where this thinking comes from that it's taboo to question some of the man's decisions or actions. This is very much a religious approach you're describing, because "God can do no wrong". Well, I'm not one to agree with everything out of blind faith, just not my nature. If it is yours, then fine, but to attack me for being different to you, that's just small.

Attack you??? Ffs

You're lovely really... Is that better?

[manpe 10,861]

Attack you??? Ffs

You're lovely really... Is that better?

Good, thorough, thought-out reply. I praise your ability to prove a point and sustain a discussion in a respectful and decent manner.

[Benches not the shed 77]

Good, thorough, thought-out reply. I praise your ability to prove a point and sustain a discussion in a respectful and decent manner.

Whats the point when you just deny stuff that is blatantly in front of you, to be honest, people like you are one of the main reasons I prefer watching Chelsea away from home.. You just don't get as many cocks travelling away.

[Spike 12,049]

Come on @Benches not the shed, no need to sling around statements like that. There are cocks wherever you go. Some of those cocks may even think you are a cock. We are all cocks.

[Fernando 6,498]

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Come on @Benches not the shed, no need to sling around statements like that. There are cocks wherever you go. Some of those cocks may even think you are a cock. We are all cocks.

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[Stingray 9,441]

Come on @Benches not the shed, no need to sling around statements like that. There are cocks wherever you go. Some of those cocks may even think you are a cock. We are all cocks.

Some are cocks AND pussies! Go figure.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Some are cocks AND pussies! Go figure.

Stop talking about yourself Tom, you attention-seeker.

[Rmpr 8,977]

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[Fernando 6,498]

Can anyone comment on this and tell me what they think:

As the draws against West Ham and West Brom also suggested, Chelsea struggle to break down opponents when their counter-attacking system is hindered. Mourinho experienced this problem during his time at Real Madrid and he was devoid of answers as his team laboured at the Etihad. Replacing Samuel Eto'o for the pacy Mohamed Salah at half time did nothing to change the status quo as City remained in complete control.

I saw this on an article and thought was an interesting remark.

What do people think?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Can anyone comment on this and tell me what they think:

I saw this on an article and thought was an interesting remark.

What do people think?

Firstly, I don't think the West Ham game proved anything. We created 39 chances against them and had clear opportunities to score. It would be like suggesting there was something inherently wrong with Bayern's system in the 2012 CL Final.

More importantly Mourinho has managed to develop a system that has taken us to the top of the table in his first seven months in charge, when we haven't managed to create a decent system in the past three years. That to me is good progress at this stage, and I expect us to develop alterations to this system as we move on.

To be honest that type of comment you quoted will only find agreement amongst those with an agenda about Mourinho, that he's one-dimensional but that requires them to ignore games like Norwich away where he mixed up the tactics and won the game.

[Fernando 6,498]

Firstly, I don't think the West Ham game proved anything. We created 39 chances against them and had clear opportunities to score. It would be like suggesting there was something inherently wrong with Bayern's system in the 2012 CL Final.

More importantly Mourinho has managed to develop a system that has taken us to the top of the table in his first seven months in charge, when we haven't managed to create a decent system in the past three years. That to me is good progress at this stage, and I expect us to develop alterations to this system as we move on.

To be honest that type of comment you quoted will only find agreement amongst those with an agenda about Mourinho, that he's one-dimensional but that requires them to ignore games like Norwich away where he mixed up the tactics and won the game.

Well I always heard that if they give us the ball we don't know what much to do.

Because we are much better counter attacking then creating chances.....

[edetarod 2,155]

it's true, we're clueless with the ball

and our AM's can't give a defense splitting pass to save their lives

[Shane 2,275]

Well I always heard that if they give us the ball we don't know what much to do.

Because we are much better counter attacking then creating chances.....

Oh, you heard it?!

Then it must be true!

[Fernando 6,498]

it's true, we're clueless with the ball

and our AM's can't give a defense splitting pass to save their lives

Well to be honest, I think most of these misconception is due to the fact that Mourinho tends to put down a defensive side when we need to be more attacking.

For example what does Ramires offers when a team park the bus?

He is best suited for the counter attacking system that we use when a team attack us.

But when a team give us the ball we need to make those adjustments. There is no need to have two DM when a team park the bus.

[Jase 43,479]

Firstly, I don't think the West Ham game proved anything. We created 39 chances against them and had clear opportunities to score. It would be like suggesting there was something inherently wrong with Bayern's system in the 2012 CL Final.

More importantly Mourinho has managed to develop a system that has taken us to the top of the table in his first seven months in charge, when we haven't managed to create a decent system in the past three years. That to me is good progress at this stage, and I expect us to develop alterations to this system as we move on.

To be honest that type of comment you quoted will only find agreement amongst those with an agenda about Mourinho, that he's one-dimensional but that requires them to ignore games like Norwich away where he mixed up the tactics and won the game.

TBF, think the broader issue from that comment is we've generally struggled to break down teams when they are on the defensive against us, denying us time and space to create anything of note. This would of course apply to most other teams but we do seem to have a problem than most in this scenario and we have seen that before. Inclined to agree with your second point as we definitely need something different, a bit more variation in our play than we've right now like perhaps getting a deep lying playmaker.