The Mourinho Thread

[kellzfresh 7,229]

8 minutes ago, MefiX19 said:

Don't care really, he is not the same as he was before Real Madrid, he is now diferent manager.

Except he has unlimited funds again like he used to have before coming back to Chelsea 

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

He's always been after that United job. 6 page letter? That's pretty embarrassing on his part

[Cosmin 2,484]

9 hours ago, Essien19 said:

 

damn English "journalists"....

 

Yeah, it's just the media speculating again. Just like it was with Luiz and Mata, just like it was with Lukaku, just like it was with De Bruyne, just like it was with Costa being a bully at Mourinho's orders, just like it was with Eva, just like it was with everything that eventually proved to be SPOT ON.

[Tomo 21,751]

When you create such a history at one club you don't join a rival, Mou at United, Cech at Arsenal and Lampard at City is like Ronald Mcdonald turning up on Burger King adverts, some things should just not happen.

Why has only JT and Drogba from the 2005 onwards core got that?

[Essien19 1,415]

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

Yeah, it's just the media speculating again. Just like it was with Luiz and Mata, just like it was with Lukaku, just like it was with De Bruyne, just like it was with Costa being a bully at Mourinho's orders, just like it was with Eva, just like it was with everything that eventually proved to be SPOT ON.

Sometimes the journos get it right, sometimes not, take a look at the transfer rumours, some of them have been proved wrong.
In this case, where are the facts, for example quotes... is there any hard evidence at all?
I haven't seen it so far...

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

His problems go deeper than tactics. It's his ego and all the fucked up things in his head. Funny hearing he'd start over and do things "the United way" just for the sake of being hired. Means he's learned nothing. You only address mental disease with medication, not good will. Third season at his next job will be the same, I have no doubts about it. Sick people tend to do the same things over and over again, waiting for different results. Mourinho is broken and won't change. Like he won't change United either. 

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 1/24/2016 at 0:01 PM, Tomo said:

When you create such a history at one club you don't join a rival, Mou at United, Cech at Arsenal and Lampard at City is like Ronald Mcdonald turning up on Burger King adverts, some things should just not happen.

Why has only JT and Drogba from the 2005 onwards core got that?

And Ash, Essien, Ballack, Riccy, plus couple others...

Funny Ashley coming from arsenal but said he couldnt join another english rival team which shows how much respect he has for us and then you have Lampard, who is arguably twice the legend Ash is goes to fucking city...

[Essien19 1,415]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR GREATEST MANAGER WE HAVE EVER HAD!

Please come back, miss you so much, we really need you, sad, sad, times...

Wish you all the best, hope you find a job.
You clearly deserve better, what a shame this has happened to you!
What a loss for both of us!

#ProperChels'!
#OneOfOurFinest
#OneOfUs
 

[Weckerz 3,781]

^

we haven't lost under our new manager after the most embarrasing run of games in our modern history and just beat Arsenal away

sad sad times lel

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

This ought to piss off a few members in here who have some irrational hate towards one of the greats of this club and football as a whole,  point in case the post before mine 

8 trophies out of 15 in the last 10 years thanks to this man says it all really.

Happy Birthday! 

[Essien19 1,415]

11 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

This ought to piss off a few members in here who have some irrational hate towards one of the greats of this club and football as a whole,  point in case the post before mine 

8 trophies out of 15 in the last 10 years thanks to this man says it all really.

Happy Birthday! 

It's his freakin' birthday, but even that is not enough to cut this man some slack, lolz.
Chill bro, not worth getting upset, just the internet...

[robsblubot 3,595]

Wasn't he right though?!

i mean, can we compete against the top sides with average players in certain positions and spending a fraction?

have we been right asking for more possession and better overall play considering the club can't compete for the best players?

was Jose right?

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

 

1 hour ago, Robguima said:

Wasn't he right though?!

i mean, can we compete against the top sides with average players in certain positions and spending a fraction?

have we been right asking for more possession and better overall play considering the club can't compete for the best players?

was Jose right?

Please stop with this nonsense. We don't need the best players to have more possession and better overall play. I mean seriously did you see the shit on a stick football we had to endure since january last year.

There were midtable teams, with a fraction of our budget, that had more possession and better overall play this season. Under Mourinho, this season, we were one of the worst sides in the PL.

 

Under Jose 16 PL games, 9 losses, 3 draws, 4 wins. 15/48 points. Since he got sacked, without any new signings. 7 PL games, 0 losses, 4 draws, 3 wins. 13/21. If we win against Watford we'll have gotten more points in half the games.

Sooo i'm gonna have to go with no he wasn't right. He was very, very wrong.

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

9 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

 

Please stop with this nonsense. We don't need the best players to have more possession and better overall play. I mean seriously did you see the shit on a stick football we had to endure since january last year.

There were midtable teams, with a fraction of our budget, that had more possession and better overall play this season. Under Mourinho, this season, we were one of the worst sides in the PL.

 

Under Jose 16 PL games, 9 losses, 3 draws, 4 wins. 15/48 points. Since he got sacked, without any new signings. 7 PL games, 0 losses, 4 draws, 3 wins. 13/21. If we win against Watford we'll have gotten more points in half the games.

Sooo i'm gonna have to go with no he wasn't right. He was very, very wrong.

 

I am obviously NOT talking about PL exclusively, mind you... there are no evertons in the CL. These midtable teams you mention ALSO do not compete in the CL against the richest clubs. They also do not compete against City do they?

It may appear nonsense to you, but my TV only shows the richest clubs in the world playing CL finals over and over again... perhaps it's coincidence.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

8 minutes ago, Robguima said:

I am obviously NOT talking about PL exclusively, mind you... there are no evertons in the CL. These midtable teams you mention ALSO do not compete in the CL against the richest clubs. They also do not compete against City do they?

It may appear nonsense to you, but my TV only shows the richest clubs in the world playing CL finals over and over again... perhaps it's coincidence.

But there is a middle ground. There's not just parking the bus or playing like Barcelona. Imo we should adopt an attacking possession based style and try and play our own game but if we face teams like Barcelona or Bayern then yes ofcourse we'll have to go a bit more defensive but do we really need to completely forsake our own system ? Cannabalise our own attacking power ? Put 10 players in our own box and hope for the best ? Because when you say "was jose right ?" that's what jose is all about against the big teams, parking the bus. Nullifying the opposition at the cost of his own team's attacking strenght and i just don't agree with that.

 

 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

But there is a middle ground. There's not just parking the bus or playing like Barcelona. Imo we should adopt an attacking possession based style and try and play our own game but if we face teams like Barcelona or Bayern then yes ofcourse we'll have to go a bit more defensive but do we really need to completely forsake our own system ? Cannabalise our own attacking power ? Put 10 players in our own box and hope for the best ? Because when you say "was jose right ?" that's what jose is all about against the big teams, parking the bus. Nullifying the opposition at the cost of his own team's attacking strenght and i just don't agree with that.

 

 

 

I don't disagree that there must be a middle ground, but at this moment, we may be just too much on the cheap for that too.

either we are all full on it on the criticism to our players, or they are indeed insufficient and therefore tactics must Indeed focus on defense.

we can't have it both ways. 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 hour ago, Robguima said:

I don't disagree that there must be a mddle ground, but at this moment we may be just too much on the cheap for that too.

either we are all full on it on the criticism of our players, or they are indeed insufficient and therefore tactics must Indeed focus on defense.

Well i think it's a mixture of the 2. Next season we definitely need better players at key positions ( defense and midfield need a bit of an overhaul) but the criticism of our players has been over the top aswell. 

The majority of our players aren't as bad as they've been playing this season. Also there's been some improvement under Hiddink.

Costa is scoring again. Fabregas is getting back to his best. If Hiddink can get Hazard back to his best or closer to it then our attack should be back in business.

Our defense is a bit of a worry as even at their best they still need plenty of protection to be solid but Hiddink has gone a different way to "protect" them.

Under Mourinho, in big games, we put everyone behind the ball and took as little risks as possible.

Hiddink is proving right now that there's a different way to deal with having a poor defence. Instead of putting as many players behind the ball as possible we're actually trying to press high up the pitch and when we do sit deep we don't sit as deep as we did under Mourinho.

We're still making it difficult for the other team when they enter our half. We're not allowing them to just stroll into our final third. Under Mourinho i felt like we made it too easy for the opposition at times.

 

[The Skipper 20,609]

8 hours ago, Essien19 said:

It's his freakin' birthday, but even that is not enough to cut this man some slack, lolz.
Chill bro, not worth getting upset, just the internet...

There's a difference between cutting him slack and saying that we miss him and need him...

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Look, I'm happy for all he has brought to this club and hope he enjoys a happy birthday, but saying how times are 'sad' and that we need him is just completely deluded. It's almost cult-like. We have made massive improvements given the context we were and that alone makes us happier. Some here are willing to go back to that rubbish Football just for the sake of Jose being manager. Chelsea is above any player, manager, or owner.

[Essien19 1,415]

It's his freakin' birthday, but even that is not enough to cut this man some slack, lolz.

Chill bro, not worth getting upset, just the internet...

There's a difference between cutting him slack and saying that we miss him and need him...

Shouldn't have said 'we', some people don't see it that way. You're right!

Anyway don't want to discuss on the man's birthday whether he's a such a failure just because one bad half of a season.

Regards!