The Mourinho Thread

[Tomo 21,733]

The right time to sack Mourinho is at the end of the season, unless this board believe the team will get a top 4 finish.

This team won't finish in the top 4, and the squad is not good enough to even think about winning the UCL, so I don't think there is a guy available that would manage to win the UCL or get a top 4 finish in the PL, so there is little reason to fire Jose at this moment.

Keeping him untill the end of the season will also send a message: the club supported him the whole season, even in the worst moments, but its not working anymore. If Mourinho is fired now, many people will say that was unfair and he still was going to get this team to a top 4 finish or it was only a bad run.

We need run away title winning form to get top 4 from here, just not happening.

Our best bet is the Euro comps, we wouldn't be good enough for the CL if it was a set league, but as we know all to well, in knockout cups, any thing is possible.

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

If Jose stays it would be madness to buy in January ,,IMO the options are sack him now or write off this season completely and wait till next year to restart

Not strengthening in January would be madness, whoever is in charge. At this point we've got nothing to lose and money is the last of our worries. It's not an option.

[Parky 739]

I'm 50/50 but still think he should be given until the end of the season otherwise they would always remain that question mark should we have or not have sacked him. Also Alex Ferguson had a terrible early season at Man Utd before becoming a club immortal. Klopp also had a terrible first half of a season before clawing back points in the 2nd half.

In saying all this I have some criticisms. Jose is making me sound like a broken record here but he needs to change & modify his approach. That game highlighted how lacking our attack is given the amount of talent we have at disposal. The final third of our attack is a fkn disaster. The attackers all seem to try drift into the box and everyone is crowding in there standing like statues. Once the attacker with the ball goes into the box he holds onto way too late and hit a piss poor shot or final pass. It was predictable and easily dealt with by Stoke's defence all day long. Also why weren't Cesar and Baba drilling crosses from out wide on the overlap & drawing out Stoke's defenders which would have kept them guessing. So fkn frustrating to watch our team to the point where I'm fkn screaming at the TV like a mad man! I have honestly seen junior teams and my sunday league team play with better tactical approaches and fundamentals than Chelsea.

Seriously is Jose still going to continually stick with the 4-2-3-1 formation and his one dimensional attacking approach until he gets the sack? For farks sake man try save yourself & make some progressive changes to your approach. Recently Jose said he's not going to change his ways and that he can only learn from himself at this high level. Wakeup Jose its almost 2016 & we're 16th in the league! You know what all greats in every industry continually push for progress, learning from their peers and competitors. If you stick to the same one approach in any modern & dynamic industry you're going to get killed by the competition.

So will this old stubborn chestnut Jose accept there needs to be changes or will his his ego get in the way? Well now it's all in his hands and there are no excuses left for him or other people to blame. That's if isn't sacked on Monday already.

I am currently in great pain for our club's dismal situation. Maybe we can still win the CL and this season will be saved.

KTBFFH!!!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I remember you. Haven't seen you around here in ages. And I agree.

Yeah. Been lurking a bit but life got in the way of posting.

[lucio 5,418]

this man say he will play kids if we continues struggle, still waiting

exactly , he is a coward and a liar. not only is he destroying us short term, he is letting our future rot too. can't understand why a single person backs him.

[the wes 7,212]

Rumors are that Rodger, RDM and Hiddink are all on our short list to replace Jose until the end of the season. Goodness me if there is any truth in this I don't know what to say, maybe the problem isn't mainly Jose after all but the board as well. If we get rid of Jose a good replacement needs to come in, not 3 managers that have been sacked from their respective jobs barely a few months ago.

I can't see RDM coming back there's rumours about hiddink and makelele managing chelsea

[Melanicus 5,208]

The right time to sack Mourinho is at the end of the season, unless this board believe the team will get a top 4 finish.

This team won't finish in the top 4, and the squad is not good enough to even think about winning the UCL, so I don't think there is a guy available that would manage to win the UCL or get a top 4 finish in the PL, so there is little reason to fire Jose at this moment.

Keeping him untill the end of the season will also send a message: the club supported him the whole season, even in the worst moments, but its not working anymore. If Mourinho is fired now, many people will say that was unfair and he still was going to get this team to a top 4 finish or it was only a bad run.

These are the exact same reasons I've voted "No."

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He wasn't even at the game last night and people are holding him accountable

[lucio 5,418]

He wasn't even at the game last night and people are holding him accountable

our performances as a team , are a culmination of his work on the training ground , not his 5 minute pre game team talk.

[Joe Cool 388]

He wasn't even at the game last night and people are holding him accountable

Did he not set tactics before the game? Did he not have regular contact with Steve Holland and Rui Faria throughout?

In any case, it's his own fault that he was banned. His press conferences and behavior have been an embarrassment as of late. You also have to take into consideration the effect that the gaffer being banned may have had on the players. Either way you look at it, I don't see how he can't be held accountable.

[BXL70 396]

Maybe it is too late now to sack Mou: we can forget the top 4. Our two main objectives for the season are now the following:

- Avoid relegation

- Avoid humiliation in the CL would we reach next round.

No improvement in the game so far (in practice, we should destroy a team like Stoke, and we lost miserably, we have no attacking power).

[MihaiM24 156]

Mourinho will win UCL and all will be forgoten. You heard it here first.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I agree there's no hope but I want him gone for other reasons. I'm sick of the BS. The mind games, the immature garbage. The tantrums. I don't find it endearing or interesting. It's extremely childish. I want a manager who can just shut up and manage the team sans drama. Chelsea doesn't just need a new manager, it needs a culture change.

You know shit has hit the fan when the crisis manages to resurrect the great TorontoChelsea! How are you, my friend?

I guess the question is: Is it worth paying Jose's salaries for the year (plus the new manager's obviously) in order to get rid of the drama and BS for the season when the new manager, whoever he is, is unlikely to achieve more than Jose?

I think if the board does make the decision, they can go to Jose and say, listen, you're gone at the end of the season regardless, your job is to get us through the season without getting relegated and while integrating some youth players and we want to do it quietly.

Even if that means facing relegation?

I guess I (maybe arrogantly) haven't contemplated that seriously so far. I do believe that we have the individual quality not to actually be drawn into a relegation battle. On any account, I think we can afford till at least February to address that. If by then we are still in bottom 5 then, yes, a decision needs to be taken. But for the time being, I see little that can be gained by sacking Jose before the end of the season.

[Rmpr 8,977]

How much does the champion of Premier League usually need to spend in the summer to avoid relegation battle the next season?

That depends on the state of the squad. How many players did ManUtd needed after Ferguson's last title? Of that team only Rooney, Carrick, Jones and De Gea remain first team players.

Yes, the team won the League but everyone saw the glarring problems from Feb onwards and some even said we needed a major overhaul. Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic are all done. Fabregas and Costa ended up being one trick ponies. Oscar will never reach his potential. Drogba's leadrship is gone. Etc.

Now, we can sit here and say its all Jose's fault (and he does have a lot to blame), but the truth is there are a lot of people working on our football department and they all let this happen, not only Mourinho...

[Stats 7,053]

It is not impossible at all for us to get top 4. As good as Leicester have been, you assume that by the end of the season we should be above them, hopefully. 14 points behind them while 13 behind United. Assume now that City, Arsenal and United are top three. Then you assume our big challengers for the 4th spot will be Spurs, Liverpool and the lesser likes of West Ham, Everton and Southampton. Our next game is Norwich at home which should be a home banker. We then go to Spurs which will be a crucial game. If we can get our act together and beat them, we then have Bournemouth which is surely a home win for us followed by Leicester away and Sunderland and Watford at home. Really, we are good enough to get maximum points there. If not maximum we should be targetting around 13 points at least. We do that then all of a sudden our top 4 chances should look much better. Look at the run Arsenal put together last season and they were doing bad around this stage last season too, albeit not too bad. They ended up finishing 3rd and got top 4 easily.

Hopefully the same with us. Got to keep the faith. We have got too many talented players to think we cannot get a run going :blue scalf:

[Rmpr 8,977]

It is not impossible at all for us to get top 4. As good as Leicester have been, you assume that by the end of the season we should be above them, hopefully. 14 points behind them while 13 behind United. Assume now that City, Arsenal and United are top three. Then you assume our big challengers for the 4th spot will be Spurs, Liverpool and the lesser likes of West Ham, Everton and Southampton. Our next game is Norwich at home which should be a home banker. We then go to Spurs which will be a crucial game. If we can get our act together and beat them, we then have Bournemouth which is surely a home win for us followed by Leicester away and Sunderland and Watford at home. Really, we are good enough to get maximum points there. If not maximum we should be targetting around 13 points at least. We do that then all of a sudden our top 4 chances should look much better. Look at the run Arsenal put together last season and they were doing bad around this stage last season too, albeit not too bad. They ended up finishing 3rd and got top 4 easily.

Hopefully the same with us. Got to keep the faith. We have got too many talented players to think we cannot get a run going :blue scalf:

Problem is with the quality of football we are currently playing, any match we go down 1-0 (which isnt improbable considering our defence) will be almost impossible to overcome.

So, in our current situation we either score first and hope to maintain the lead or we are pretty much certain to drop points.

Top 4 is impossible because you know we are not winning 5 games in a row. We just arent...

[MihaiM24 156]

I think if the board does make the decision, they can go to Jose and say, listen, you're gone at the end of the season regardless, your job is to get us through the season without getting relegated and while integrating some youth players and we want to do it quietly.

What? Tell him he would be sacked at the end of the season and ask him to do these things? It's like you`re telling a man you will fire him next week but you need him to do this and that for you. That simply won't work, every man would probably say "fuck you" and leave the exact time you tell him that

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

The player I feel sums up our current malaise is Baba. He has to wait ages for his debut mainly because it's pretty apparent that the manager doesn't rate him. He's then given a run when the team's confidence is shot to pieces and it's affecting him badly. He's no Roberto Carlos but he's looking pretty lost out there at the moment and I feel for the kid.