The Mourinho Thread

[Melanicus 5,208]

As some have said before, the board really needs to sit down and actually think long-term.

They need to think about the direction they want Chelsea to go in.

What is the desired image of the club? I feel like we don't have one.

Roman wants Chelsea to play good, attacking football.

If that was the case, hiring Mourinho in the first place was a mistake. He will never change the way he is and his tactics are. He's a great manager, one of the best, but if his tactics don't match clubs vision (which we don't have) - we don't hire him, it's as simple as that.

We must hire managers that play this kind of football. We must trust them. We must stick by them in bad times too.

And after that, when they're gone, we need to hire the new manager that FITS CLUB IMAGE.

We can't have The Big Sam first and then after him hire Pep Guardiola. Not because Sam is "worse" than Pep, but because they play different style and the team that one has build won't be useful for other and everything will have to change again. New spendings, new transitions and so on.

So, in my opinion if we lose the next 3 games Mourinho is sacked and you hire a manager that fits your needs.

Attacking managers?

Klopp is gone. Bielsa is here, this guy is a nutter, but he's a great short-term manager that knows what he's doing. He's one of the best tacticians in the game, even Pep admires him. He could really push us into direction of playing attacking football and changing our mindset until the end of the season. After that, either stick with him or hire another ATTACKING MINDED manager. Not Simeone, because everything would be fucked again. Pep or Brendan Rodgers. Yes, I said Brendon Rodgers. He's a good manager, but Liverpool is shit and they couldn't attract big name players.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I understand why people want him out, but the clear ingratitude here is staggering. You are entitled to want him gone, but he doesn't deserve such blatant disrespect.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

If you enjoyed the good times with him then its our duty to stick with him in such moments.

No matter how difficult it gets, we must continue to support the manager. He needs us more than ever!

Come on Jose! KTBFFH!

[Laylabelle 9,402]

It's not so much the results that changing my mind but his behaviour at the moment.Thought the Eva drama be it and nothing else but instead there's just one thing after another and no need for any of it

[Reddish-Blue 2,382]

As some have said before, the board really needs to sit down and actually think long-term.

They need to think about the direction they want Chelsea to go in.

What is the desired image of the club? I feel like we don't have one.

Roman wants Chelsea to play good, attacking football.

If that was the case, hiring Mourinho in the first place was a mistake. He will never change the way he is and his tactics are. He's a great manager, one of the best, but if his tactics don't match clubs vision (which we don't have) - we don't hire him, it's as simple as that.

We must hire managers that play this kind of football. We must trust them. We must stick by them in bad times too.

And after that, when they're gone, we need to hire the new manager that FITS CLUB IMAGE.

We can't have The Big Sam first and then after him hire Pep Guardiola. Not because Sam is "worse" than Pep, but because they play different style and the team that one has build won't be useful for other and everything will have to change again. New spendings, new transitions and so on.

So, in my opinion if we lose the next 3 games Mourinho is sacked and you hire a manager that fits your needs.

Attacking managers?

Klopp is gone. Bielsa is here, this guy is a nutter, but he's a great short-term manager that knows what he's doing. He's one of the best tacticians in the game, even Pep admires him. He could really push us into direction of playing attacking football and changing our mindset until the end of the season. After that, either stick with him or hire another ATTACKING MINDED manager. Not Simeone, because everything would be fucked again. Pep or Brendan Rodgers. Yes, I said Brendon Rodgers. He's a good manager, but Liverpool is shit and they couldn't attract big name players.

I agree with everything you said except the bolded part about Brendan Rodgers.

Rodgers is a mid-table manager, nothing more, he was just lucky to have Suarez at Liverpool.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Brenton Rodgers? Hahaha no!

We bought absolute shit this summer

Because we won the league I think it glossed over a lot of problems with our squad. We won last year but everyone else was poor.

We are paying the price for not getting in the right players for the right positions

Now we will get mugged off in January and pay way over the odds for anyone we want

How about the chap in your avatar. He's always coming up with new ideas and he has a sporting background.

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[Reddish-Blue 2,382]

I understand why people want him out, but the clear ingratitude here is staggering. You are entitled to want him gone, but he doesn't deserve such blatant disrespect.

He's disrespecting the club through childish actions. Every time something goes wrong, he has to blame someone else for it, kind of like how a spoilt child starts whining when things don't go their way or when their parents don't buy them that really cool new toy at Christmas

He might be a winner but he's definitely not a long term manager.

[Styles 9,790]

Has @lionsden actually been banned?

#freemyguy

[Pizy 18,515]

I've finally come around to the thinking that he's done. Unfortunately, the same problem remains and that's the fact that there isn't anyone out there that's worth sacking him immediately for.

[Styles 9,790]

If you enjoyed the good times with him then its our duty to stick with him in such moments.

No matter how difficult it gets, we must continue to support the manager. He needs us more than ever!

Come on Jose! KTBFFH!

Goodwill has to have a limit. Moruinho is damaging both the image of the club and its future.

We're 15th - let that sink in for a moment.

Think of all the football that has already been played this season and then look at where we sit in the table.

Enough is enough.

[Polo7 3,496]

Has @lionsden actually been banned?

#freemyguy

Thank god for that!

[Fernando 6,497]

Another thing that bothers me is that Ivanovic can get away with criminal display and gets treated awesome by Mourinho, but when it comes to hazard he gets treated worse.

We already got rid of Mata and kdb because of Mourinho, now the possibility of losing hazard would be worst.

All because Mourinho can't get the best out of attacking flair players.

Just wants everyone to defend....

[Rmpr 8,977]

I understand why people want him out, but the clear ingratitude here is staggering. You are entitled to want him gone, but he doesn't deserve such blatant disrespect.

Exactly. Jose deserves a lot of criticism and I wouldnt blame the board if they sack him, but this guy gave us 3 fucking league titles!

People take titles so lightly. All spoiled imo...As a Palmeiras fan, I have come to appreciate winning a title way more than most of this generation honestly. I still feel very proud we are wearing a golden EPL logo even if we are 15th in the league.

Jose deserves a lot of criticism but definitely not the absurd slack I read here.

[Jase 43,479]

If you enjoyed the good times with him then its our duty to stick with him in such moments. No matter how difficult it gets, we must continue to support the manager. He needs us more than ever!

There's a fine line between Chelsea FC and Mourinho FC.

It's not that fans don't want to back Mourinho. We do but he's making it extremely difficult for people to do so with his actions.

[Fernando 6,497]

Mourinho needs to go, but I really don't know who has to come.

Ancelotti doesn't know the first thing about turning a crisis around, he's literally the last guy for the job, even as a stop gas.

I'm not too affected by the results tbh. This happens... ask United a couple of seasons ago... every big club has been through a slump at least once. We will get over it. But Mourinho made it impossible for him to continue. If someone in football needs a sabbatical, that's him.

I really can't stand Guardiola, I think he's way more arrogant than Mourinho, but he tries to hide it better. I think he's overrated as hell and couldn't do as good with Bayern as expected. Yes, winning UCL ain't easy. Losing 7-0 in the SF isn't either... the team hasn't even slightly produced what could have with a really good manager. Klopp - imo - would have taken that Bayern much further than Pep did - all things considered and not only titles.

I can't stand the guy, again, I think he's overrated, his success at Barcelona was a very ideal situation, with a lot of factors helping, a perfect marriage of philosophies (club and manager). I'm not saying he's bad, just that he isn't nearly as good as people make him out to be. His biggest accomplishments were winning everything with one of the best teams ever (most of the players were already there even before him, although he did add a couple key players) and winning Bundesliga with his Bayern side. With the squad he has, reaching UCL SF - especially given the teams they faced in the knock-outs was merely an obligation.

Still, is there anyone better? We already saw that if one club is new to the football elite, also having a fairly inexperienced manager doesn't work, so we can't bet in one of the young names coming through the last few years. The old foxes are either outdated, or the few nearly good enough well employed where they are. I've always said my two names were Klopp and Simeone, but both seem out of reach now and Simeone whole being a personal preference doesn't match the style Roman seems to want to the team any better than Mourinho does. It seems like a dead end, but one thing is for sure, Mourinho has to really leave and I'm one breath away of changing my opinion that it should wait the end of the season. He desperately needs a break from football. He's lost, outdated and seems to have developed a deep victim complex, stopping to acknowledge his own mistakes. One manager and one season won't sink Chelsea irremediably, but just because it's not the end of the world, it doesn't mean it has to continue the way it is.

Yeah I wanted klopp as well but I knew it from the beginning he wanted to go to Liverpool.

Just the way he spoke and how similar it was to Dortmund made it a match in heaven.

Pep I doubt he comes here, Arsenal is written all over him.

The only way I see him coming over here is if someone lays down the work for him.

And the only man that can do that is Marcelo Bielsa.

I think he is like Mourinho, good short term (one or two years) not good long term (three years and up).

Someone like him is what we might need to change our identity in the short term and then continue to build from there.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Sherwood sacked. Mourinho next. I see the "history" argument has cropped up again. What a load of tosh.

[Pizy 18,515]

Sherwood sacked. Mourinho next. I see the "history" argument has cropped up again. What a load of tosh.

Yeah, league titles and making Chelsea a global power club. Load of tosh...

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Yeah, league titles and making Chelsea a global power club. Load of tosh...

Thanks to Roman for the most part.