The Mourinho Thread

[Billy. 2,742]

[Jokesy 53]

ordinary>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.shit

You're not actually incorrect!

[Amblève. 4,995]

How about all Chelsea fans learn from Dortmund fans of last year? Patience is a virtue....

Not sure whether you've ever been on a Dortmund forum or not but all fans are happy they parted ways with Klopp

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho has hit the wall at Chelsea but needs the chance to breakthrough

Good article. Worth a read.

[Billy. 2,742]

He needs to play this to the lads before the game and if it dont work we are truly fucked

[Thor 2,468]

I'm not even sure what I want at this point.

When Mou came back, I thought he'd be the long term option, and stay here forever... He has immense powers with players in terms of signings and getting the players he wants to the club (Yes, I realize we hardly got anyone this off season).

It is hard to completely deduce what is going wrong at the moment. Like most, I thought we were already poor the second half of the season when we won last years title, but I guess winning was a habit at that point and the players just knew what they were doing.

Is it poor coaching, or are the players not good enough any more? I hardly doubt it is the players. We have a squad with the names Hazard, Matic, Costa, Azpi, etc. All names that would start just about anywhere in the world. All guys who are top 5 at their position in the world at the very least.

It has to be the coaching, right? This team just doesn't play efficient or optimising football given what we have... Why are we so low in the pitch defending half the time?

When it rains, it pours I guess. I have no idea what is up anymore.

[GodZola 630]

Jose has started the cull he should of done a month ago but its clear he didn't go far enough as the 2 main protagonists were again left untouched, its strange cus where ever I go I get the same feedback from fans regarding Ivanovich yet Jose keeps playing him? Now if the layman can see it then I'm damn sure Roman can? So with that in mind Jose is either making a point to the board, he wants the boot or as I keep saying there is deeper rumblings going on behind the scenes & not just Evagate either!

There are 2 arguments that are regurgitating in this thread, the first blaming José for not becoming proactive in remedying our current predicament with team selection amongst a list of others that I tend to ignore & another where the players are equally at fault as they simply aren't giving that 100% commitment you'd expect or are just not giving the level of performance they are capable of & we all know there is so much more in their locker but are no where near their full throttle rendering José redundant in everything he tries to achieve.

Well I'll tell you this, I concur with both arguments (please don't quote me on this or that I've read enough of the same old - thanks!) & I'll hold my hands up & be man enough to say Ive been wrong in my defence/views on José as is his current status managing our club.....however I won't give up on him either, I unequivocally don't agree with fans who want him out - their opinion, I just hope he is given the time to prove you lot wrong & then perhaps we can see who really are true Blues fans because they will be honest enough to eat some humble!

Definitely more questions than answers, I just hope he finds the right chemistry & solution quickly. For me José can kill 2 birds with 1 stone by integrating some of the exceptional youth he has at his disposal thus dropping some of the senior players to give them a boot up the arse which if anything should make them perform to their level again, just one notion of where Jose has gone wrong but I'm one of those thousands of back seat managers!

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Hats off to Mourinho and his marketing team. Despite the fact Mourinho has been borderline mediocre for the last 5 years at least. These guys are doyens at propagating the myth of Mourinho the Supreme Tactician / Best manager in the World ™ . I laugh in the face of the gullible fools that believe that garbage.

In their defence, in the last 5 years Mourinho has won; Serie A, La Liga, EPL, FA Cup, Coppa Italia, Copa Del Rey and the Champions League.

Please, a little respect for the man. One bad season and he's suddenly a mediocre fraud

[Blue Gino 377]

play the kids Jose. There's no hunger or ambition among many players and it's time play Kenedy, RLC, Musonda and the like more often now. You can call it suicidal in an attempt to win a top four spot but are they honestly going to win anything continuing on this path? You can shuffle all you want. Same dog shit recipe. Play the kids Jose.

[Henrique 9,133]

In their defence, in the last 5 years Mourinho has won; Serie A, La Liga, EPL, FA Cup, Coppa Italia, Copa Del Rey and the Champions League.

Please, a little respect for the man. One bad season and he's suddenly a mediocre fraud

Champions League and Seria A: May 2010. More than 5 years. After that he managed for 5 years two clubs with huge money and amanzing individual talents.

[Spike 12,049]

I'm going to cook vaca frita for the first time tomorrow.

[didierforever 7,349]

"I don't think my players deserve me to be critical of them apart from the two mistakes but obviously I'm not going to point the finger. It's a difficult opponent and a difficult place to play. The Champions League brings a different emotion to matches, to the crowd and opposing players. I think the team played well."

"It was a good performance with two ridiculous mistakes. Sometimes you make those mistakes and you are not punished, we were punished. With the second goal it's a ridiculous mistake. We watched dozens of repetitions of Porto taking corners, I thought we were completely ready for that and at a moment when the game was under control and we were preparing to make a change we conceded that goal. We had another similar mistake when they hit the post. Apart from that I thought we had balance, defensively we had no problems and the defenders played well."

"The basic thing in football is a defensive set play; the ball is there, you know the movements, control the spaces. The players reacted in a positive way and the team played for a positive result. Diego hit the bar, Ivanovic had a chance with an open goal and in the last minute it was a clear penalty (for a challenge on Kenedy). We reacted and we reacted well."

"When the team is not winning on a regular basis it's normal you have to make changes. Games like tonight are the difficult ones to analyse and make decisions after because the result doesn't mean you played badly, the mistakes we made twice doesn't mean the team defended badly. When it's a disaster it's easier to make decisions. We have to find balance. We now have two home games in the Premier League and we need to try to get good results. Good feelings, happiness, self-esteem, the players need those to play and when luck goes against you it's difficult to have those feelings."

oh my god... he has lost it. absolutely lost it.

[Clevemayer 764]

to me the main quotes I will judge him on are this ones:

"When the team is not winning on a regular basis it's normal you have to make changes....We have to find balance. "

he further said "I don't want to point my finger at a single Player."

To me this means, he knows who made the mistakes and were the main problem (Iva and Cesc, Pedro was awfull too) and he drops em. He will restore Hazard. I'm not sure with Matic, his main contributions were a shot into row y-57 and a yellow card for a tactical foul.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Lol, too bad if that happens because I'll be still here supporting Chelsea. Why? Because I'm Chelsea 'till I die, that's why. I cannot speak for the others, but I'm pretty sure most will stay.

I mean How dare us to criticise the underperforming players. How dare us be angry at Mourinho for picking liability players over and over. How dare us to expect more from our players?

Sorry for not being a blinded fan.

If that's the message you're picking up from my post then the point of it is quite clearly sailing over your head. The amount of extremists on here, who are exaggerating things to such an incredible degree, that make it seem as if the rapture is upon us - they're the spoilt bastards who need to go to another club.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

You are losing your reason.

AKA "you are an idiot" - why make baseless statements? Make reasoned counter-arguments and I'll reply.

[Thor 2,468]

I was overly harsh after the Crystal Palace game, and fumed and ranted how I wanted everyone gone, but that is hardly the case after realizing what this season is going to be. Clearly we won't be winning much of anything this time around, but a good balance, and turnaround into playing good football would be good.

I think Mou thought he had a little something when he put Matic on the bench, but clearly, he isn't the problem. Fabs has to be dropped, or used as a sub. He is a good player, but Matic is constantly doing the job of two men, and clearly he has broken down doing that. The guy is a workhorse, but he can't keep it up for two seasons. He was a match winner constantly through last season just by working harder than anyone else. Get him a decent supporting partner like RLC down there and I honestly think that whole backline gets a lot more security and comfort knowing two absolute beasts are infront of them keeping the line safe. Plus Matic doesn't get enough credit for how good he is with the ball. People constantly slate him for taking his time, but more often than not, he is harassed by two players at a time.

Hopefully Iva is dropped, Hazard hits some form, and Fabs is used mostly as a sub throughout the season. Someone more dynamic is needed next to Matic, and it isn't Fab. If he wants to play, it should be further up the park where his lack of defending isn't as vital to the game.

For as good a "player manager" Mou is, this season it is slipping away from him. We have pieces that can allow us to win the premier league. In my eyes, talent wise, we are probably 3rd behind City and United, but we have a better manager than both. We can't compete in Europe with this team, but we can do some work.

Baba and RLC need to start for me. Kennedy should be getting game time whenever we can give it to him too.

[GodZola 630]

Champions League and Seria A: May 2010. More than 5 years. After that he managed for 5 years two clubs with huge money and amanzing individual talents.

Last season we were the first team to make a profit in the transfer market in the PL that went on to win the title in ten seasons - yeah some credit due!

If you want to talk about talent & sums spent then look no further than City & Pellegrino - still no CL or the latter stages i might add or Utd with what Moyes & Van Gaal have spent in the past 3 seasons whilst achieving nothing.....

That said Jose has to improve, so far its been a disaster & one that is going to challenge him in more ways than one, he is so far away from the manager that we had first time around right now, no question of that.

[Spike 12,049]

Nobody could have predicted that the core of Chelsea would under perform. The signings made were perfect at the time, a striker, winger and fullback. They were areas that needed strengthening in depth and they were. Diego Costa, Hazard, Ivanovic, Terry, Matic, Courtois and Fabregas are underperforming. They are all starters from last season, no manager in the world could handle 7/11 of their team falling apart in the blink of an eye. This is a freak occurrence. Everything will be fine.

Thanks to a certain member for bringing this up and making it clear to me.