bluephoenix 1,131 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ferguson did an interview about a week or two ago and spoke of how well himself and Mourinho know each other. He spoke of his retirement and when making the choice of who to succeed him, he said Klopp had signed on with Dortmund and Mourinho was going to Chelsea. So let's bullshit this myth that United didn't want him from the off lmao. He also said, knowing Jose as well as he does, he'll find a way to fix this situation. Without a doubt.Now if one of the (if not the only) greatest managers of all time can come out and support Mourinho, well.. Do you have a link for that interview ? I would like to watch it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Do you have a link for that interview ? I would like to watch it .Certainly! The interviewers are quite annoying, especially this first guy lmao. bluephoenix and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogian 148 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 How about you come back with a decent argument rather than just taking the piss out of people who want Mourinho to stay.AFAIK Mourinho can't win - no matter what he does.I'll come back when I want to which is now. I am taking a piss out of people who find it necessary to accuse a large part of the fan community of not being true fans. My "argument" may have been in the form of a comical hyperbole but I think it does quite a decent job of pointing out how repugnant and irrational such reasoning(true vs false fans) is. If I get likes for that it propably means a lot of people agree with this asessement. If it'd make you glad I'll make sure to put unpopular remarks beneath my posts in the future.Mourinho can win, but his recent tactical decisions and media appearences are making it quite dificult.Arsenal is the best team in the world. borriske, zolayes, johnnythefirst and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Benching him isn't the problem, totally deserved. Comments were a little too harsh in my opinion, just that. Hope he reacts well.I agree with that, only if it is a one shot. This kind of player needs to be on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kmk108 1,186 Posted October 18, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 18, 2015 For the last few weeks, I saw a handful of people clamoring that Hazard needed to be benched due to his performances. Now that he's been benched for ONE match before a mid-week Champions League game that's very important, people are raising hell about it.Mourinho could give birth to the baby Jesus himself and he'd still be chastised. Essien19, sainttourist, Fulham Broadway and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 For the last few weeks, I saw a handful of people clamoring that Hazard needed to be benched due to his performances. Now that he's been benched for ONE match before a mid-week Champions League game that's very important, people are raising hell about it.Mourinho could give birth to the baby Jesus himself and he'd still be chastised.It's fine that he got benched but saying he doesn't defend enough is not a valid reason imo if Mourinho said he isn't playing good enough that would've been fine. Hazard's defending is good enough, we can't expect him to work as much as Willian or a Sanchez, it's never going to happen. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 For the last few weeks, I saw a handful of people clamoring that Hazard needed to be benched due to his performances. Now that he's been benched for ONE match before a mid-week Champions League game that's very important, people are raising hell about it.Mourinho could give birth to the baby Jesus himself and he'd still be chastised.Maybe you should actually read the comments those people made before you react to it. Nobody is upset that Hazard got benched.The problem is Mou's comments on why he benched him, namely that he didn't help the defense out enough which is utterly absurd 11Drogba and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 How is it absurd to say he doesn't defend enough?The players compared aren't really comparable, but look at the numbers. He doesn't put any effort into defending, and we know Mourinho values that over everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 People have been criticising Jose for over a decade for this kind of thing but he continually wins trophies to prove he knows what he's doing. Fergie was the same. He wasnt afraid to cunt off Beckham, Keane, if they were wasting their talent, and the players then actually buckle down or fuck off.I am sure Hazard wont take offence, hes big enough and ugly enough to shrug it off and prove his worth. If not he can do one.He wins trophies, and nobobdy is even debating this, what people are discussing is if that strategy work on the long term. He is winning trophies for over a decade, but not with the same team. He won a PL last season, and somehow his tactics paid off, but right now what really matter is not what happened in the past.I also beleive its time to come up with "Fergie" every time someone want to defend a manager. Its not wrong with a manager wants to criticize a player, the problem is the reason why and the timing. Peace. and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Henrique 9,133 Posted October 18, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 18, 2015 How is it absurd to say he doesn't defend enough?The players compared aren't really comparable, but look at the numbers. He doesn't put any effort into defending, and we know Mourinho values that over everything else.Thats really an absurd way to defend Mourinho. Its just unbeliveable how far some people go. To be honest I never see anyone paying attention for "minutes per interception" and "minutes per tackle" stats coming from players like Neymar, Messi and Robben. I just can't imagine City, United, Barcelona, Real or Bayern dropping an attacking player because he won't defend well against a team in the botton of the table. Peace., Hybrid Angel, manpe and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 How about you come back with a decent argument rather than just taking the piss out of people who want Mourinho to stay.AFAIK Mourinho can't win - no matter what he does.The Homer Simpson's thing was perfect to describe your post. herzogian and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thats really an absurd way to defend Mourinho. Its just unbeliveable how far some people go. To be honest I never see anyone paying attention for "minutes per interception" and "minutes per tackle" stats coming from players like Neymar, Messi and Robben. I just can't imagine City, United, Barcelona, Real or Bayern dropping an attacking player because he won't defend well against a team in the botton of the table.The stats show he doesn't defend. You can't argue that he does. Whether or not he needs to is a completely different issue altogether. If our defense was doing fine, I wouldn't have a problem with his workrate on defense (like in past seasons), but when we're struggling at the back as much as we have been this season, it's not absurd to ask him to do more to help out the team. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 How is it absurd to say he doesn't defend enough? The players compared aren't really comparable, but look at the numbers. He doesn't put any effort into defending, and we know Mourinho values that over everything else.An attacking midfielder about as large as a 12 year old defensively inept.. outrageous ^^There were days wingers were rated on their chance creation and crosses, since Ronaldo wingers have to score 30 goals a season, now they have to be defensively solid.He's been shit, but stop this nonsense about defending, it's absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The stats show he doesn't defend. You can't argue that he does. Whether or not he needs to is a completely different issue altogether. If our defense was doing fine, I wouldn't have a problem with his workrate on defense (like in past seasons), but when we're struggling at the back as much as we have been this season, it's not absurd to ask him to do more to help out the team.I would understand if he was dropping Hazard for a game against Barcelona in the Camp Nou, but when the team have 4 bad defenders, and won't be happy if an attacking player is getting the blame, when midfielders with more important defensive duties (Fabregas) are doing bad in that aspect, and that would be even worst if we are talking about a game against Aston Villa. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I would understand if he was dropping Hazard for a game against Barcelona in the Camp Nou, but when the team have 4 bad defenders, and won't be happy if an attacking player is getting the blame, when midfielders with more important defensive duties (Fabregas) are doing bad in that aspect, and that would be even worst if we are talking about a game against Aston Villa.Why would you want to drop Hazard for a game against Barcelona, when we can do without him against Villa. That was the point of Mourinho dropping him for this match. We did fine against Villa without him, and he's rested and fresh for the game against Dynamo Kiev on Tuesday.You won't get any argument from me that Fabregas deserves the bench more than Hazard, but Mourinho dropped Hazard to send a message to him that he needs to earn a spot in the team. He knows he can do this with Hazard, because he'll respond to it and work harder. Essien19 and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The Homer Simpson's thing was perfect to describe your post.Hardly. People like you spend your time winding up people that don't hate Mourinho and then cry when those people bite back. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 He wins trophies, and nobobdy is even debating this, what people are discussing is if that strategy work on the long term. He is winning trophies for over a decade, but not with the same team. He won a PL last season, and somehow his tactics paid off, but right now what really matter is not what happened in the past.I also beleive its time to come up with "Fergie" every time someone want to defend a manager. Its not wrong with a manager wants to criticize a player, the problem is the reason why and the timing.Still its great to be a Chelsea fan eh ? C'mon Henri its not all doom and gloom is it me old mate ? Eh ? "championes championes, ole ole ole ole Chelsea Chelsea !!' You have to admit its a great club to support isnt it ? We're having a few difficulties, but who doesnt ? Who the fuck doesnt -eh? I know you dont like him because of the Portuguese/Brazil ting, but we've got the greatest manager Chels ever had at the helm havent we ? Give the cunt a bit of slack. Roman n the Board have. Cmon. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So we finally got to see what Mou's answer was to this crisis:Remove the last bit of creativity from our team and go even more defensive.This guy is just a portuguese Tony Pulis but with a bigger ego and a bigger budget.We were in the process of building a team who could win things by playing more attacking and entertaining football and he singlehandedly killed it just to win a league title in the short termyes because Pulis could obviously win the treble with Porto and Inter and back to back PL titles with Chelsea. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Why would you want to drop Hazard for a game against Barcelona, when we can do without him against Villa. That was the point of Mourinho dropping him for this match. We did fine against Villa without him, and he's rested and fresh for the game against Dynamo Kiev on Tuesday.You won't get any argument from me that Fabregas deserves the bench more than Hazard, but Mourinho dropped Hazard to send a message to him that he needs to earn a spot in the team. He knows he can do this with Hazard, because he'll respond to it and work harder.I'm against using that kind of primitive strategy to send messages to your player. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I'm against using that kind of primitive strategy to send messages to your player.What enlightened strategies would you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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