The Mourinho Thread

[Kieran. 6,317]

Biggest crybabies on earth, we actually may rival Liverpool now.

We're about to win the double, be happy for once in your miserable lives.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Well, it will be the most lackluster title win possibly in Premier League history. So yes, people including myself will feel bitter about that, but, we'll take it.

I personally feel it's almost embarrassing to be called Champions just because of the premise "Champions still grind out games when they're going through bad form" etc.

We were Champions for a month at the start of the season. Since then, all we've done is end up with a higher math figure than the other teams.

We are no Champions of football, we are champions of math.

We've been doing that for too long. It is not fun. People watch football for entertainment. Are fun and entertainment not one and the same?

I don't understand what some people watch football for if not for...the actual football, but i'm open to enlightenment. (I guess they may watch for escapism reasons, which is why when we 'win' ((regardless of the actual football)) it makes people feel like they've won something in real life which makes their cycle of a rut a little less tedious. I think these are the people who are happy with a win regardless how it comes. They must be depressed.)

Idgaf about a trophy and the 1 day of elation i'd feel from us having it if the 50+ games i actually watch us play over a season are boring or frustrating as hell.

Just think of the people actually paying money to see this shit & not just watching an illegal stream. Have some empathy and understand that the frustration is not meaningless.

We play, consistently, how let's say, Crystal Palace played before Pardew took over. Some people are happy with that if we get a shiny recognition after all of it. Those some people are crazy.

I can't wait for pundits and history archives alike to droll on about how boring this Chelsea team is, can any you? For the sake of football, any of the 3 teams below us should win this league. I'm talking about for the sake of neutrals and football fans. Those teams deserve it more. Because they're bold. They look to attack and entertain like a bull or a flock of dragons.

That's respecting the audience, putting on a performance & not just mopping the stage when you've promised a big loud set while still taking people's money.

I have to stress - if this is the level of football we can expect, what do we watch for? If only the result matters, why don't we just check the results on Yahoo after the game? (because people saying that only winning matters are either in denial, or are contradictory.)

We are a crab that hides in our shell for entire games to only strike when we think we may get a nibble, which we usually miss. Sometimes we'll get lucky and come across an animal with an already beaten shell, or with sand in its eye so it can't fight back. But when have we gone blow for blow with an equal and come out on top?

Don't watch us and our football then. Simple as.

[Fernando 6,585]

You only took that part and didn't read the whole thing.

I meant to have two minds working together, a defensive coach like Mourinho and an attacking coach like pellegrini.

They each have their strength and weakness so they would complement each other.

However I mentioned that such thing is not popular in this sport like NFL where we have offensive and defensive coach.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

You know a post is absolutely spot on when even jose's fan boys cant come up with any rebuttals to the points raised other than the highly predictable insults I.e pictures, gifs, the usr of the word "embarrassing" and so on and referencing his accomplishments as a manager which has absolutely nothing to do with the argument at hand. You should post more often. Really enjoyed reading that.

Hello Lionsden,

Which rebuttals could be offered that haven't been deployed hundreds of times in this thread already? Which rebuttals has @Irakozium257 not already demonstrated, in that one post, that he's immune to?

Every single one of us realises that the football we are playing is not good, every single one of us understands that this is at least in part because we are not playing well. Why these things are so is, you and I will agree, a matter of opinion. It is the attitude with which some people choose to express their opinion, not the opinion itself, which is pathetic.

I am 100% confident that over the coming seasons Jose will resolve the problems, deliver better football, and continue to win while doing it. I hope no Chelsea fan will be disappointed if this turns out to be so. Do you see, however, why many of us suspect that there are people here who will in fact be extremely disappointed if that happens?

Meanwhile, let me answer the question which I guess might be on your mind. Of course I will be disappointed if my confidence turns out to be misplaced. If we still need to be having this conversation in three years time, get back to me.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Your such a child. Everyone at Chelsea obviously loves Jose .. Fucking hell he is basically a God here. Some of us just want to see nice football. We want Jose to be the man to get us playing it. Nothing is more important than winning and Jose makes us winners... Great. Sometimes we use this thread to release our frustration when we play like dogshit to get those wins.

It's criminal to dislike the way we win.. i know!!

Judging by you poor grammar I'd say its the other way around... Anyways.

You think you're the only one who wants to see nice football? I would love to see us smash teams by 6! I just don't think that's gonna happen and not because Jose isn't capable of it.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

We just need to win this big title and get this fear off our backs, so that we can return to the football we played in the beginning 5 months of the season

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

What pisses me off mostly is half of these infants who deem anyone who dare criticises Joses approach a hater, probably don't even come to The Bridge and watch the games we analyse..

LOL... Like that makes you some sort of authority on the matter! hahahahaha I've been to the Bridge! 3 times in the last year.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

People seem to forget we are playing with the stress of being first......for a long time at that. Arsenal can play great without a worry because they have guaranteed 4th (their only objective ever) hence they play without care.

Not even that, we haven't even been challenged once all season... Complacency is very hard to keep out when you've had a 7-8pt lead pretty much all season.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I don't watch football so a trophy cabinet i'll never see has a toy in it for tourists to goggle at

I don't know why on earth you chose Chelsea as your club brother!

[Adnane 1,101]

I think you're all over reacting here, it's not all black, nor white.

We've been hugely unlucky with ref's decisions going against us, at Old Trafford, St Mary and against Burnley at home, as José used to say, in normal conditions, we'd have 10 to 15 points clear at the top by February.

All I hear here is, we've been playing shit since December, now excuse me, but no, we played really well at Villa, Everton Home, and Burnley, and those are all February fixtures, stop making an awful lot of it and changing the facts, out bad run started actually against PSG, and still since, we had a brilliant second half against Southampton, solid performance against Hull apart from the last 20 minutes of the first half, and a good overall performance against Stoke.

The only games we played really really poor recently to me are QPR, the first half against Southampton, and some glimpses at West Ham and Stoke, really small glimpses.

Now the reality is, there is a really thin line between Hero and Zero in football, the latest of proofs is Fab's goal, when you start to interpret the fact as you wish, you can state whatever the hell you want, and what I'm saying here is, people are trying to mislead the general opinion and state that our run since DECEMBER IS SHIT to prove their point, now sorry, you must be talking about a different season.

Also, the other reality is, we aren't playing genuinely well in the last games, and that's quite predicted, you never win a Premiership playing like Barcelona at their peak the whole season, do you ? United of the last decade had always shit games where they'd pull the rabbit out of the hat again and again ( Ronaldo, Chicharito, 88 minute comebacks ), and won 5 Premier League titles, do you hear them complaining ? Do you hear people criticizing them ? No, nobody does, and for me, this side is as good as any United side of the last decade, and if we win all our remaining games, we'll reach 94 points, which is 1 shy of the record we established in 2005.

So stop complaining about imaginary facts, and stop reading newspapers, because obviously they are influencing you and misleading you on your OWN FUCKING TEAM. Every champion side has had its flaws, and it's never gonna change, we were absolute class the whole season, only for a couple of months now we aren't playing at high level but still getting points, nothing bizarre for me.

As i said, the line between success and failure is really thin in football, had JT and Cahill not collided in Silva's goal, we'd be looking at two mouthwatering encounters against Barcelona, with a 7 point lead at the top and a game in hand, and nobody would have talked about how poor we play because the general impression would be Chelsea is amongst the likes of Barcas Bayerns and Reals this season, now don't let one single goal scored on a mistake by our defense mislead your judgement of the entire season, we've been fantastic, had our flaws, and deserve our title more than anyone. Now all this, is just an answer to the "FACTS" the Mourinho haters are presenting to prove their point, if you look straight at em, you'd notice that you're making a too much of it.

Also, I can't understand how, as a Chelsea fan, you don't enjoy a 1-0 win at Loftus, with a goal at the 88th minute against the scums to trash their relegation fight dreams, I really can't, this is one of my highlights of the season, I just fucking love this kind of wins, and for me, a Chelsea fan is surely the one who's supposed to enjoy them the most, given the fact it's pretty much on our identity and history now.

[Leif 6,006]

I don't know why on earth you chose Chelsea as your club brother!

Family reasons & location, it was literally Chelsea or a team outside of London, not because I'm from there but the majority of my family was at the time. I wasn't about to be modest and pick a mid table or lower team that wasn't "local" So I went with Chelsea.

We also played with excitement back then. Either Zola and his striker friends were entertaining crowds or fast forward a few years and we were breaking bodies with Essien, Ballack etc.

No sane person would choose this Chelsea team to support now, though, bar Belgians. (NOT XENOPHOBIC FOR ANYONE THINKING THAT FML)*

*Oh and the Japanese fans we're about to get. I'd rather be a team like we were before, that wins and keeps fans with how we play, not how we're marketed. Different discussion for another time.

[Adnane 1,101]

Family reasons & location, it was literally Chelsea or a team outside of London, not because I'm from there but the majority of my family was at the time. I wasn't about to be modest and pick a mid table or lower team that wasn't "local" So I went with Chelsea.

We also played with excitement back then. Either Zola and his striker friends were entertaining crowds or fast forward a few years and we were breaking bodies with Essien, Ballack etc.

No sane person would choose this Chelsea team to support now, though, bar Belgians. (NOT XENOPHOBIC FOR ANYONE THINKING THAT FML)*

*Oh and the Japanese fans we're about to get. I'd rather be a team like we were before, that wins and keeps fans with how we play, not how we're marketed. Different discussion for another time.

I'm Moroccan, and the only reason i supported Chelsea is for the intensity and desire i've seen in the team in the first games of the Mourinho era ( I was only 11 ).

It was pretty close to how i used to play, intense and direct, also, there weren't a lot of teams at the time that were as successful playing the same style, so it was pretty easy.

But on the other hand, I don't agree with you, I think that, from an external point of view, this team is more "loveable" than the other ones for newcomers.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Seems like our fans are content with the phrase "parking the bus" forever being associated with our club (with our manager ironically being the one that coined it). Give me the football we played in the 09-10 season under Carlo over what we've been doing this season. Will never forget how the entire Bridge was rocking in unison and collective joy during the 8-0 against Wigan.

“The reality is we want to play a certain style. Not what you are seeing now. We have to look better than that. If you sit there deep in a low block, with no spaces, you can be there three hours. I went with Inter to Barcelona and, for 60 minutes, we played with 10 men and if we needed to be there longer we’d have played for another 60 minutes. I don’t want my team to play like that.”

“We all agree,” Mourinho said to the proposition that his new-found enthusiasm for the expansive game is driven by the demands of Roman Abramovich. “We had one meeting, and in that meeting we had, not an agreement, but we were all convinced this was the way we want to do it. It’s not my way, a specific way, it’s a way of adapting to the quality of the players. We don’t want to play the same way as we did before. The profile of the players is completely different. We don’t want to be reactive. We want to be proactive, and to educate the players in this direction. The players are open for some, and not so open for others because it’s more difficult.” It was, however, a process that would not happen overnight.

I mean these are his own words. There's nothing wrong with fans demanding more from the manager as they do from Oscar or Willian. Again, we've made significant strides towards playing more expansive football especially with Cesc Fabregas at the forefront of that new style but we've since reverted to type ever since we got hammered against Tottenham.

“It’s about changing mentality. It takes a bit of time. But not five, six, seven years. I promise. You don’t have to wait so long.”

Which is why I've stated next season he has to complete the so called "evolution". Not just with the style of the team but also integration of youth which we've neglected for far too long. We have by far the best academy in England and one of the best in Europe. Time to develop our own Harry Kane's.

[TheOneChan95 225]

I swear this forum has turned poisonous. You know what? Even if we hire one of those "attacking" coaches and they start to get some bad results, I'm damn sure you will turn on them too for not being more "pragmatic and sensible" at times. Criticism is fine but that attitude is fucking poisonous for the team you claim to support.

Seriously no coach will ever be perfect. I agree with Mourinho that every fucking football fan thinks he's the best manager for some reason. If you cannot see the evolution of the team with him then you must be blind. 7 points clear at this stage with a bloody game in hand. Honestly guys have some belief in your own team and manager please. There is a reason Jose doesn't play the same approach at times and that is because he works his balls off to study the opposition and spends plenty of time with the players. Is it that hard to trust a man with plenty of experience?

Contrary to belief, we CAN play good football, just look at matches like Swansea, Burnley away, Maribor, Everton away and so on. Jose just feels that we are not ready to take the same approach in the big games yet. Have some patience and faith, we are evolving and we will get that beautiful football much more consistently one day.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Family reasons & location, it was literally Chelsea or a team outside of London, not because I'm from there but the majority of my family was at the time. I wasn't about to be modest and pick a mid table or lower team that wasn't "local" So I went with Chelsea.

We also played with excitement back then. Either Zola and his striker friends were entertaining crowds or fast forward a few years and we were breaking bodies with Essien, Ballack etc.

No sane person would choose this Chelsea team to support now, though, bar Belgians. (NOT XENOPHOBIC FOR ANYONE THINKING THAT FML)*

*Oh and the Japanese fans we're about to get. I'd rather be a team like we were before, that wins and keeps fans with how we play, not how we're marketed. Different discussion for another time.

Why complain? just go follow another club. No shame in admitting you made the wrong choice and would like to go follow another team. Why subject yourself to the misery week after week of watching a club who play to win trophies rather than to dazzle you with a nice pass?