The Mourinho Thread

[Pizy 18,994]

Mourinho has said more than once that if he ever did leave Chelsea he'd want to coach another English team. There's only one other English team he'd coach. Wonder how people here would feel seeing him as the United manager. Think everyone would dread it.

[Spike 12,049]

Personally, the main reason I do not want him sacked is because this is an awkward part of the season. The transfer window is shut and there is quite a lot of time until the January window. If there is indeed a new manager soon, they won't be able to make any changes to the squad for quite some time. There is still over two months until January and that is ample time to fix what is ailing the team.

My preference is to wait until the end of the season to sack him [or not]. This is a huge and expensive decision and shouldn't be made as soon as now. Everything is a mess right now, but to sack Mourinho and bring in another manager may fix things in the short term but may create future issues with the club. I'd hate to see another Robbie di Matteo instance where the new manager is given a contract at the end of the season and sacked a few games into the next season. That would be a fiasco.

The right decisions need to be made and sometimes they have to be made patiently.

[Jase 43,479]

During the two seasons after 2007 he played 73/76 League games, he was injured in 2010-2011, thus playing only 24 games, then went on to play 85/114 league games in his last three seasons with us, when he was aged 33 to 36.

Now I may agree with the fact that Jose burns some of his players by demanding way too much from them over a short period, but you are using the wrong example.

I think the fact that Lampard managed to play 164 consecutive Premier League matches is a testament to his fitness level rather than the manager trying to flog him to death. He is well known for taking good care of his health and fitness and it has served him well throughout his career, helping him to put in reliable, consistent performances and play at the highest level. On top of that, I'm pretty sure he didn't start all of the 164 games, play the full 90 minutes of each match and he must have gotten some rest along the way in some of the cup matches. Lampard is something of an anomaly in this situation and I doubt we'll ever see another outfield player break that record.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Jason

[Blue Armour 4,477]

RDM?

You missed my point about the squad being unseasoned as well. RDM had Drogba, Terry, Lampard and Cech. Hell, you even saw Terry spouting managerial instructions from behind RDM's back in one match. RDM didn't turn around the situation on his own. He had help from the players and their experience in cup competitions. A lot.

[kmk108 1,186]

A visualization of how horrible the defense is.

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

The most annoying thing about the 5 tall player shit is the fact that we have yet to score from a corner, but have conceded many.

[Henrique 9,133]

To be fair with Jose Mourinho, the board is also to blame for this situation.

For me its clear that people making decisions are making making a strange job.

For example, before Mourinho came back, the club was investing in a specific kind of player: young players with attacking insticts, the team even had a wild CB who dreamed about being a striker. Oscar, Mata, Hazard, KDB,William, Schurle,Azpilicueta (I know he came when Mourinho already was the manager, but for me its clear Willian was actually a club signing).

Then, what the board do, they just hire Jose Mourinho. Probably the most negative great manager ever, known for ultra conservative approach and for being more concerned about not losing than winning a fucking game.

Many people forget that, when Jose Mourinho was hired back in 2013, he was talking attacking football!!! He kept that talk for at least 4 months, but there is a big problem, Mourinho just doesn't know how to do it. The results were not appearing, the defense was conceding too many goals, and and the attack wasn't creating enough chances.

As fas as early december, he was still talking about attacking football, despite average results, some his quotes todays are just unbeliveable:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10509004/Chelsea-will-not-compromise-attacking-approach-says-manager-Jose-Mourinho.html

"But Mourinho was adamant Chelsea's style will not be altered, in comments which could be interpreted as a veiled criticism of predecessor Rafael Benitez.

The Chelsea boss said: 'Am I going to change the style and play more defensive players? No. Am I going to play David Luiz in front of the central defenders? No.

'Am I going to play with four plus two and the wingers closing behind and leaving Fernando in attack waiting for a counter attack, waiting for a long ball to try to win 1-0? No.

'We go in the same direction.'"

Can you believe that? Jose Mourinho saying he would never change his "attacking" aproach, criticizing Benitez for being defensive, and saying he would never leave a srtiker alone, wainting for a counter attack and wingers closing behind!!!!

Everybody know what happened in the rest of tha season, and months later Luiz, KDB, Mata, Schurle and Lukaku would be playing elsewhere, while Willian was turned into a second righ back, while the team was buying back a very unidimensional DM in Matic.

For me its clear one thing: when the club got Mourinho back, he was supposed to take the best out of the squad a play an attacking football. Somehow, that got lost in the process. Perhaps Mourinho pointed that results is what matter, and when the team became consertavite again,the results appeared. Perhaps he got a point, since next season the team ended the season as PL Champions.

Okay, Mourinho still had two more year in his contract. 2 years. Then, the club offer a contract extension and give him 2 more years. To honest, what club in the world would do such a thing at this point? The manager completed only 50% of the current contract, and then you give him more years.

To be honest its pretty simple, I know there is an obession in England with "building a dinasty", but people just don't understand that Alex Fergunson was unique case. You just need to see what happend with every big european club in the past 10 years, and its going to be really hard to find a single club who had the same manager for more than 3 years, let alone 6.

Football is really dynamic, building a manager dinasty is not what is happening around, it doesn't mean you have to fire your manager every season, but giving a manager, who is under contract, a extention with two more seasons yet to be played, just doesn't make any sense.

Few weeks after the cotract extension, the club releases a "public support" that basically says the results must improve or the manager will get fired.

Even the RDM situation was an idication that people making decisions are not confident enough to make the right decisions. RDM was not a proper manager, but he was named for the job because the club didn't have the balls to say" thank you, but thats it". They were too affraid of the reaction coming from the press and from fans who believed he deserved the job as a sign of gratitude.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Mourinho has said more than once that if he ever did leave Chelsea he'd want to coach another English team. There's only one other English team he'd coach. Wonder how people here would feel seeing him as the United manager. Think everyone would dread it.

Guardiola already said he likes the atmosphere at Old Trafford. They would probably go for him. Tottenham would like to hire Mourinho imo. He would increase their popularity in two years.

[didierforever 7,349]

Like I asked a couple of days ago, sacking him and needing to pay such a huge sum would surely impact his potential successor when it comes to signing players?

its jose mourinho. he will find a new job by the end of the month if he wants. surely by the end of the year.

that would be an acceptable risk when compared to the financial loss by being mid table in PL, not getting CL next season, getting eliminated from CL early on etc etc... and all of this because he chooses his players due to height.

[Reddish-Blue 2,517]

A visualization of how horrible the defense is.

Do you have last season's defensive chart? I would love to see a comparison

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Jose if you play Iva against Villa and don't win you deserve all you get...

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

If Mourinho did get sacked the clubs who would be interested in him and him them is pretty small in England. If he joined Spurs after he said he's one of us well that would guarantee him to become an instant hate figure with Chelsea fans. Would Spurs want him ? possibly but after A.V.B i don't think he'd be very welcome there. Man United that ship has sailed for Mourinho he won't be going there. Arsenal won't have him likewise Man City. Dark horses West Ham who i can see being the next club to have major investors pumping money into the club.

But where ever he goes the man brings major baggage with him and that is definitely going to put some clubs off. I do think his stock is on the decline apart from the baffling on field decisions it's the off field antics that will worry any potential suitors. Mourinho since he came back is a surly obnoxious man who has lost all his swagger and charm and anyone who can rant for seven minutes has got problems.

[cosmicway 1,333]

[Pizy 18,994]

its jose mourinho. he will find a new job by the end of the month if he wants. surely by the end of the year.

that would be an acceptable risk when compared to the financial loss by being mid table in PL, not getting CL next season, getting eliminated from CL early on etc etc... and all of this because he chooses his players due to height.

Where would he find a new job so quickly? Can't see any way he goes to PSG as he'd be bored out of his mind with that league. Likewise Serie A. Can't go back to Spain. It's either wait for Van Gaal's contract to run out and hope he can persuade them to hire him or take a much smaller job.

There are only so many top clubs out there he can manage and he's gone through quite a few.

[Reddish-Blue 2,517]

Where would he find a new job so quickly? Can't see any way he goes to PSG as he'd be bored out of his mind with that league. Likewise Serie A. Can't go back to Spain. It's either wait for Van Gaal's contract to run out and hope he can persuade them to hire him or take a much smaller job.

There are only so many top clubs out there he can manage and he's gone through quite a few.

I would love to see PSG in the UCL with Mourinho as manager

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Who pays a manager € 13.5 million a year. Seriously.

No one is worth that, especially not a manager whose only tactic is to try and park the bus...

You make this guy a multimillionaire and he keeps making mistakes everyone who has watched 5 Chelsea games this year wouldn't make.

It's just retarded.

He makes just slightly less than Cristiano Ronaldo. Buy him and get a cheaper manager and see what happens.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Personally, the main reason I do not want him sacked is because this is an awkward part of the season. The transfer window is shut and there is quite a lot of time until the January window. If there is indeed a new manager soon, they won't be able to make any changes to the squad for quite some time. There is still over two months until January and that is ample time to fix what is ailing the team.

My preference is to wait until the end of the season to sack him [or not]. This is a huge and expensive decision and shouldn't be made as soon as now. Everything is a mess right now, but to sack Mourinho and bring in another manager may fix things in the short term but may create future issues with the club. I'd hate to see another Robbie di Matteo instance where the new manager is given a contract at the end of the season and sacked a few games into the next season. That would be a fiasco.

The right decisions need to be made and sometimes they have to be made patiently.

Strange - why do we automatically need new players?

I'm more than confident that with a change of formation, dropping some players and bringing others in we have enough in our locker to challenge for the Top 4 positions. Let me caveat that by saying if another manager came in, picked on merit and expanded our attacking play we would be fine. We don't need a tactical genius - we just need a manager that understand attacking shape, pressing and pass/move - all the things we seem to fail at - it's like watching a Sunday football team.

nice to see that since the Board backed Mourinho - people no longer want him gone. I wonder how many will change their mind if we lose at Villa. This - I will give him one more game - exercise is futile and the Board have dropped a clanger.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Who pays a manager € 13.5 million a year. Seriously.

No one is worth that, especially not a manager whose only tactic is to try and park the bus...

You make this guy a multimillionaire and he keeps making mistakes everyone who has watched 5 Chelsea games this year wouldn't make.

It's just retarded.

He makes just slightly less than Cristiano Ronaldo. Buy him and get a cheaper manager and see what happens.

One league title (under José) and one CL in how many years he's already there.

He won more when he was at United under SAF.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

One league title (under José) and one CL in how many years he's already there.

He won more when he was at United under SAF.

Yeayea.

Cristiano makes 40-50 goals a season, José makes zero goals a season.

I'd go for Ronaldo.

I'm just saying José is not worth anything close to what you gave him. And now that he has a 5 year deal he can pretty much finish last and still take the club hostage (since he would "NEVER resign!!!") unless they give him € 50 million.

Also, Ronaldo wasn't playing Barca in the Premier League. ;-)

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Yeayea.

Ehmm...the notion that 1 (non-team) player will win you trophies is absurd. Do you think the second coming of christ Ronaldo will set up tactics in big matches or he will jsut sulk when a team-mate doesn't pass the ball to him, so he can inflate his goal stats and ego?

Personally i would never want a players like that in any team i'd support.

Also, "what you gave him"?