Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ummm.. the goal?You guys have absolutely no respect for the Premier League champions. They have a fantastic team and are extremely tough to beat at Etihad.Lol "the goal". Stoke scored against them too, on Etihad. Great attacking display by Stoke, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 OK lets say for the sake of this debate Jose did what he had to yesterday, lets give some expectations about the future.Away at Arsenal- will you be happy with the style last season? Not for me, I want us to go at them on the counter and not doing more of this, we ARE clearly a better teamAway at Spurs- terrible team, I mean even Liverpool fucked them 3-0 and not even threatened once. Again I expect us to try humiliate themAway at MU- a game where Jose will probably park it looking at their attacking players, even though it will be there to be won. I expect good ATTACKING DOMINANT FOOTBALLAway at Liverpool- maybe more of this is fair enough but still should be a bit more adventurous, again can see him setting up to get a pointThere are the 4 tough away games left. What do you guys expect then? Apart from Liverpool game I want us to ATTACK all the other 3 and not doing more bus parking. I expect us to do more of this against Arsenal, MU and Liverpool though with Spurs maybe again happy with a point for Jose. Which for me is clearly not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ok. Let's rule out the La Liga trophies. Which leaves them with 13 others.Like we didn't equalise in the 89th minute, or something, and won it on penalties.People said that football is changing ever since Greece won the European in 2004. Football has already changed.Lol... what other trophies are you counting?Also why are you talking about Chelsea now? Its clear when we played Bayern we played to defend! That's not the point that's being made.And its changing again! Now you need to have a team that can play a variety of games. One that can defend and also get forward and score. Atletico won La Liga against ALL ODDS playing this way. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 OK lets say for the sake of this debate Jose did what he had to yesterday, lets give some expectations about the future.Away at Arsenal- will you be happy with the style last season? Not for me, I want us to go at them on the counter and not doing more of this, we ARE clearly a better teamAway at Spurs- terrible team, I mean even Liverpool fucked them 3-0 and not even threatened once. Again I expect us to try humiliate themAway at MU- a game where Jose will probably park it looking at their attacking players, even though it will be there to be won. I expect good ATTACKING DOMINANT FOOTBALLAway at Liverpool- maybe more of this is fair enough but still should be a bit more adventurous, again can see him setting up to get a pointThere are the 4 tough away games left. What do you guys expect then? Apart from Liverpool game I want us to ATTACK all the other 3 and not doing more bus parking. I expect us to do more of this against Arsenal, MU and Liverpool though with Spurs maybe again happy with a point for Jose. Which for me is clearly not enough.I want us to bomb forward and neglect defending, may mean a couple of hammerings but as long as we play a few neat one twos that's good enough for me. The Chels and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I want us to bomb forward and neglect defending, may mean a couple of hammerings but as long as we play a few neat one twos that's good enough for me.Would be nice if you decide to not be sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Lol... what other trophies are you counting?Also why are you talking about Chelsea now? Its clear when we played Bayern we played to defend! That's not the point that's being made.And its changing again! Now you need to have a team that can play a variety of games. One that can defend and also get forward and score. Atletico won La Liga against ALL ODDS playing this way.They won 4 La Liga titles in the last 5 years. 17-4 = 13, in my book. Count them yourself, if you don't believe me.You tried to make a point by saying that Real Madrid (one of the 'offensive teams' examples gave by MrBlueGuy) was lucky to equalize in the last minute. So I'm talking about Chelsea, because Chelsea won the UCL at penalties and after equalizing in the 89th minute. Yes, we did that WHILE PLAYING DEFENSIVE against Bayern. That's the whole point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 OK lets say for the sake of this debate Jose did what he had to yesterday, lets give some expectations about the future.Away at Arsenal- will you be happy with the style last season? Not for me, I want us to go at them on the counter and not doing more of this, we ARE clearly a better teamAway at Spurs- terrible team, I mean even Liverpool fucked them 3-0 and not even threatened once. Again I expect us to try humiliate themAway at MU- a game where Jose will probably park it looking at their attacking players, even though it will be there to be won. I expect good ATTACKING DOMINANT FOOTBALLAway at Liverpool- maybe more of this is fair enough but still should be a bit more adventurous, again can see him setting up to get a pointThere are the 4 tough away games left. What do you guys expect then? Apart from Liverpool game I want us to ATTACK all the other 3 and not doing more bus parking. I expect us to do more of this against Arsenal, MU and Liverpool though with Spurs maybe again happy with a point for Jose. Which for me is clearly not enough.what the fuck is all this bus parking nonsense i keep hearing on here. some of you lot read to many papers and not very good ones by the sound of it, defending and setting up to be hard to beat is what it's called! it's a football basic, what do you think tony pulis did when he went to crystal palace last year. made them hard to beat,with defensive drills, you need to be realistic in your expectations and knock the fifa 14 on the head it's clearly melting your brains Barbara, didierforever, stroey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 what the fuck is all this bus parking nonsense i keep hearing on here. some of you lot read to many papers and not very good ones by the sound of it, defending and setting up to be hard to beat is what it's called! it's a football basic, what do you think tony pulis did when he went to crystal palace last made them hard to beat,with defensive drills, you need to be realistic in your expectations and knock the fifa 14 on the head it's clearly melting your brainsThe debate finishes when you are using Pulis as a role model for football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted September 22, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 22, 2014 'Park The Bus' is such an abusive and overused term these days, till the point people can't even differentiate that and the approach of 'defend and counter'/'counter'. Barbara, TheOneChan95, didierforever and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 what the fuck is all this bus parking nonsense i keep hearing on here. some of you lot read to many papers and not very good ones by the sound of it, defending and setting up to be hard to beat is what it's called! it's a football basic, what do you think tony pulis did when he went to crystal palace last made them hard to beat,with defensive drills, you need to be realistic in your expectations and knock the fifa 14 on the head it's clearly melting your brainsNot worth it dude.Just forget it. These are the same guys who crib when we go away to united and play attacking football and lose 3-1 under avb. Then these are the same guys who crib when we lost 3-2 to united playing some brilliant attacking football under rdm. Both thw time, they were demanding results. Now that jose is getting results, they will still crib, now about how we are playing and the philosophy and yada yada yada. Barbara, Tomo and ballackstothat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The debate finishes when you are using Pulis as a role model for football. the debate finishes when you use terms like parking the bus, every pundit and ex-player reviewing man yoos game against Leicester has said the same thing, what is point of having six world class attcking players in your team if you CANNOT DEFEND. if you think what pulis did last nothing short of miraculous you must be a bigger idiot than the shit you are espousing.ATTACKATTTACKATTACK cos that did brazil the world of good against germany. i think not. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Lol "the goal". Stoke scored against them too, on Etihad. Great attacking display by Stoke, then?Actually Stoke did extremely well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If i read remarks of people like MrBlueGuy against Mourinho, I feel ashamed to be a Chelsea supporter. I will never forget the Tifosi of Inter when I went to San Siro once how they were worshipping Mourinho. I somehow got the feeling that, though Mourinho is really loved at Stamford Bridge, the Inter fans somehow loved him even a bit more and vice-versa. TheOneChan95, darrus and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 So you want to compare JT, Cahill and Azpilicueta to Utd defenders? Our defence individually and collectively is light years superior to utds and I don't recall Lecicester playing with 10 men. Utd actually had a man sent of which gave Leicester the impetus to chase the lead. How is both situation even comparable at all?Atleast use a better and more comparable example to make your point or analogy. it's not too much to ask for.Did I compared our defender to United? My whole point was that even against small teams our defense has been very shaky when we play open fútbol. If you play like headless chickens you will get slaughtered like it happened to United. Yet you want to neglect that and go head to head against our main rival who's defense and offense are great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 You tried to make a point by saying that Real Madrid (one of the 'offensive teams' examples gave by MrBlueGuy) was lucky to equalize in the last minute. So I'm talking about Chelsea, because Chelsea won the UCL at penalties and after equalizing in the 89th minute. Yes, we did that WHILE PLAYING DEFENSIVE against Bayern. That's the whole point.So there is no point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If i read remarks of people like MrBlueGuy against Mourinho, I feel ashamed to be a Chelsea supporter. I will never forget the Tifosi of Inter when I went to San Siro once how they were worshipping Mourinho. I somehow got the feeling that, though Mourinho is really loved at Stamford Bridge, the Inter fans somehow loved him even a bit more and vice-versa.Why don't you make a new religion? Something like Mourinhoism, since you're all about worshipping and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why don't you make a new religion? Something like Mourinhoism, since you're all about worshipping and shit.I think yours must be Manureism .. Cholo and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why don't you make a new religion? Something like Mourinhoism, since you're all about worshipping and shit.Pretty loose tongue for a 21 yrs old kid from Romania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballackstothat 43 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why don't you make a new religion? Something like Mourinhoism, since you're all about worshipping and shit.cosmin as you clearly don't like mour and his type of football who do you think should manage the club and play the expansive counter attacking football you bang on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 So there is no point.Yes, there is. You said that Real Madrid were lucky to equalize in the 93rd minute, like that makes their title less deserved or important. That's why I gave Chelsea as example, in order to make you understand that your argument is not really an argument, since it can be used both ways.Whatever, I think we should stop right here and just agree to disagree. You're happy with it, I'm not happy with it, we just have to wait and see what happens next. I really don't want to continue with a discussion where people are talking about Mourinho being worshiped and so on. It's way too much for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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