The Mourinho Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Fan: Will Lukaku and Courtois return to Chelsea for next season?
JM: I know what's going to happen. But I should not tell yet.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Eh? How did this conversation took place?

A portuguese speaking brazilian chelsea fan told me about it and sent me the translation. Since mourinho is the official host for yahoo for the world cup or somthing like that.

[Styles 9,790]

Fan: Is true that european players have more tactical knowledge than brazilians?

JM: We can always learn tactics. The most important is technique.

Fan: Why you use David Luizas a midfielder instead of a CB?

JM: Because I have Terry and Cahill very realiable in the back and David has midfielder qualities

[Tomo 21,733]

You completely changed the subject of his post. Trusting in a manager is different from seeing everything he does as a good thing, even when the evidences speak otherwise.

Because there's always someone that will bring the 'extreme Jose lovers' line into it, which is annoying, there's always been a core group on here that would back the manager regardless (i was one off them until i got egg on my face defending AVB) Carlo got backed no matter what by some people, yet there was never post's like the one i quoted back then. If Hiddink returned he would be backed just as much as Jose has been, if not more.

I don't agree with everything he does, i was quite vocal around christmas off my disappointment that Kalas wasn't getting a shot during the period our defence were playing like Liverpool's back line, i just trust him to get it most off the time.

[Henrique 9,133]

Because there's always someone that will bring the 'extreme Jose lovers' line into it, which is annoying, there's always been a core group on here that would back the manager regardless (i was one off them until i got egg on my face defending AVB) Carlo got backed no matter what by some people, yet there was never post's like the one i quoted back then. If Hiddink returned he would be backed just as much as Jose has been, if not more.

I don't agree with everything he does, i was quite vocal around christmas off my disappointment that Kalas wasn't getting a shot during the period our defence were playing like Liverpool's back line, i just trust him to get it most off the time.

Its a good thing you admitted you was wrong all the time about AVB, but again, his post wasn't directed for people like you. Its clear he was talking about people that would back Mourinho regardless. There are some people around that NEVER sees anything wrong in what Mourinho does, even when the evidences speak otherwise. If Mourinho decides do sell Hazard tomorrow and replace him with a mediocre player, some people will try to find arguments to back his decision.

Just take Luiz as an example. Mourinho is the one who decided he is a better option for DM than Mikel or Lampard, Mourinho believes Luiz has midfield qualities (his words), but last season people were saying Benitez was a stupid guy (no, I'm not comparing Benitez and Mourinho) for not realizing Luiz is awful as a midfielder, but now, no single word about Mourinho, its all up to Luiz. Some members will point here how terrible again was Luiz playing as DM, then next game Mourinho will be using him again in that position, but again not a single word about that. Even when Mourinho is doing something against their beliefs, some members won't see that as a mistake.

Luiz played 90% of our big matches this season as a DM, but some people here keep saying he is an awful DM. So, the manager is not doing a mistake using such useless player in every big match of the season? I can even talk about Ramires. Its clear Mourinho is a big fan of his football, but the "extreme Jose lovers" who coincidentally are the most loud voices against Ramires, never take that as a Mourinho's mistake.

Thats right, Mourinho is using a "brainless" player game after game, and thats not a mistake.

So, as I said before, you changed the subject of his posts. Blind love is way different from trust.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Tomo and Henrique, I have moved your little talk about Mourinho from David Luiz's thread to where it belongs!

Please continue the debate here...

I hope you dont mind!

[Jase 43,479]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

[Madmax 9,219]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

Yeah it was hypocritical of him. He mentioned more than once at the season's start that he sees Luiz as a CB and isn't one to be so defensive that he would use a CB in midfield like previous managers did (obviously referring to Benitez). Chelsea fans should be the last ones to be surprised though, we should know more than anyone that he's a pragmatist and will do anything he considers necessary to win.

[ZOS 580]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

Luiz was a better midfielder than the competition, imo

[Rmpr 8,977]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

To be fair, I dont think Mou used Luiz in midfield because he wanted to (per se).

I think the fact he used him out of position so much shows two things. One that Cahill and JT duo were so immense that he tried to change it at least as possible and that Luiz's performances werent impressing him. Two that he simply doesnt trust any of our back up DMs and preferred a CB playing there than Mikel or whatever!

In factc, I dont recall Jose utilizing Luiz as a DM when he had the full squad at his disposal. It was more like desperate moves in order to try to win some matches than a real plan of his choice (a bit like Rafa did)...

[Special Juan 27,457]

To be fair, I dont think Mou used Luiz in the modfield because he wanted to (per se).

I think the fact he used him out of position so much shows two things. One that Cahill and JT duo were so immense that he tried to change it at least as possible and that Luiz's performances werent impressing him. Two that he simply doesnt trust any of our back up DMs and preferred a CB playing there than Mikel or whatever!

In factc, I dont recall Jose utilizing Luiz as a DM when he had the full squad at his disposal. It was more like desperate moves in order to try to win some matches than a real plan of his choice (a bit like Rafa did)...

This job has defo gone to your head

[Rmpr 8,977]

This job has defo gone to your head

Nooo, I'm losing it!

[Fernando 6,491]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

I think he's having a dig at Benitez and wanted not to do anything what he did.

Yet he ended up eating his words.

As my mom always said, don't spit up because sooner or later it might land on your face!

[Jase 43,479]

To be fair, I dont think Mou used Luiz in midfield because he wanted to (per se).

I think the fact he used him out of position so much shows two things. One that Cahill and JT duo were so immense that he tried to change it at least as possible and that Luiz's performances werent impressing him. Two that he simply doesnt trust any of our back up DMs and preferred a CB playing there than Mikel or whatever!

In factc, I dont recall Jose utilizing Luiz as a DM when he had the full squad at his disposal. It was more like desperate moves in order to try to win some matches than a real plan of his choice (a bit like Rafa did)...

I do seem to remember that we had all our MFs - Matic, Ramires, Lampard and Mikel - fit and available at certain points during the second half of the season but yet, Mourinho played Luiz in the pivot as well and he's now even praising him for having the ability to play in midfield! It just kinda feels silly that he said he won't play Luiz in midfield and the next thing we know, he does just that whether intentionally or enforced.

[Kieran. 6,317]

I do seem to remember that we had all our MFs - Matic, Ramires, Lampard and Mikel - fit and available at certain points during the second half of the season but yet, Mourinho played Luiz in the pivot as well and he's now even praising him for having the ability to play in midfield! It just kinda feels silly that he said he won't play Luiz in midfield and the next thing we know, he does just that whether intentionally or enforced.

He first used him there out of necessity and was impressed, so he used him over Mikel and Lampard towards the end of the season.

[robdog 2,084]

Regarding Mourinho and Luiz, just find it funny that after the former said he won't play a defender in midfield, he goes and do that with Luiz. At times, it was enforced on Mourinho to do so but there were also times he made that decision despite having choices and not to mention, he also did the same with Azpi against Atletico Madrid...

and when he was at Madrid Pepe played in the midfield too. It's a tactical move instead of an enforced move.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Playing Luiz in the midfield is a bit different than playing a normal defender like Pepe. Luiz is one of the defenders in the world with decent movement.

[robdog 2,084]

Playing Luiz in the midfield is a bit different than playing a normal defender like Pepe. Luiz is one of the defenders in the world with decent movement.

Didn't Jose play Lucio or Zanetti as a DM during his reign @ Inter? I thought he did.