The Mourinho Thread

[mccg 1,528]

For a club now as big as ours ,it is unacceptable to have lost this many games at this time of the season, never mind 10+games in a whole season.I didnt want Jose to get sacked but to walk away,now we have another £$ payout grrr.Jose thx 4 the good times!

[Fernando 6,585]

I am an avid follower of Bielsa, pochetino in noway is similar to Bielsa or comes from his school of thought.

Jorge Sampaoli is the closest thing to Bielsa, but the pupil has surpassed the mentor. Mainly due to his personality, which allow him to be more flexible.

Just want to point that out.

Not similar but he came from that school.

I guess I meant it wrong.

I meant it more like avb.

He was with the man and learned a lot from him.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Not similar but he came from that school.

I guess I meant it wrong.

I meant it more like avb.

He was with the man and learned a lot from him.

Ok I get what you are saying.

Throughout his career Pochetino has taken things from Bielsa and crated his own managerial ways.

AVB on the hand I can definitely see much more of a similarity. Sampaoli is pretty much almost replica of Bielsa, but more pragmatic some way.

Sampaoli is definitely the manager I would love to see at Chelsea over anyone( pep included)

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

JT was the best defender in the league last season, unfortunately he's being found out because he hasn't the protection infront of him as Matic has been largely poor & also covering too much ground trying to cover Fabs arse! I maybe wrong but I don't see JT as a starter next season, would be good to have him around as player coach or involved in some description.

I believe our midfield needs major surgery & legs! Yes there are problems at the back but if we kept the ball more often instead of giving it away after 2 passes then we wouldn't be under so much pressure, it nay not of been the right time to play the highline under AVB but I want us to play further up the pitch, we are far too deep!

Not heard of Tuchel, Poch already has the experience of the Prem league so he'd be my outstanding choice but obviously I'm open to suggestions.

Tuchel has taken over at Dortmund post Klopp. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2554744-breaking-down-how-thomas-tuchel-has-changed-borussia-dortmund-tactically

[Fernando 6,585]

Playing for Jose Mourinho 'very exhausting,' says Demba Ba

http://espnfc.com/chelsea/story/2761206/playing-for-jose-mourinho-very-exhausting-demba-ba

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

2004-2007 Mourinho is a legend.

The Mourinho who got fired today is another person.

I agree. I think Madrid did something to him. Even when he came back, I had Utd. friends that said he looked like he had aged 20 years. He went from slick suited Jose to tracksuit daddy Jose.

He did a great job in years 1 and 2. Sad to see it end this way.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I agree. I think Madrid did something to him. Even when he came back, I had Utd. friends that said he looked like he had aged 20 years. He went from slick suited Jose to tracksuit daddy Jose.

He did a great job in years 1 and 2. Sad to see it end this way.

Amen to that brother...

I know I wanted him gone for the good of the team, but it's still sad and I do truly believe he wanted it to be different - but for some reason he couldn't shake the monkey from his back

I remember debating this at length with @Barbara last season - we were discussing that now he has won the league, we will see a very different Mourinho this season. We did, but completely the opposite of what I, or anybody, expected.

He definitely has some emotional hang-ups now, that weren't present pre-Madrid

The continual need to big himself up send put others down.

Hopefully, for his sake (Mourinho the man, he gets a nice break and exorcises those demons)

I don't like his management style this time around, but I wish him all the best for the future, unless we are playing one of his teams...

[Jase 43,479]

PIERS MORGAN: The sacking of Jose Mourinho is the worst decision in football history - shameful Chelsea should have let HIM sack his treacherous prima donna stars for playing like Christmas turkeys and conspiring to bring him down

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

Amen to that brother...

I know I wanted him gone for the good of the team, but it's still sad and I do truly believe he wanted it to be different - but for some reason he couldn't shake the monkey from his back

I remember debating this at length with @Barbara last season - we were discussing that now he has won the league, we will see a very different Mourinho this season. We did, but completely the opposite of what I, or anybody, expected.

He definitely has some emotional hang-ups now, that weren't present pre-Madrid

The continual need to big himself up send put others down.

Hopefully, for his sake (Mourinho the man, he gets a nice break and exorcises those demons)

I don't like his management style this time around, but I wish him all the best for the future, unless we are playing one of his teams...

He definitely got obsessed with Barcelona and Pep. It made him even more pragmatic, I think.

This is a pretty good article https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/articles/the-devils-party/

[Ossie the King 634]

Amen to that brother...

I know I wanted him gone for the good of the team, but it's still sad and I do truly believe he wanted it to be different - but for some reason he couldn't shake the monkey from his back

I remember debating this at length with @Barbara last season - we were discussing that now he has won the league, we will see a very different Mourinho this season. We did, but completely the opposite of what I, or anybody, expected.

He definitely has some emotional hang-ups now, that weren't present pre-Madrid

The continual need to big himself up send put others down.

Hopefully, for his sake (Mourinho the man, he gets a nice break and exorcises those demons)

I don't like his management style this time around, but I wish him all the best for the future, unless we are playing one of his teams...

His management style won us the league last season though. You talk about the good of the team well we've lost a top manager and gained what exactly? Maybe that remains to be seen but once again we've sacked a manager rather than backing him and some people seem happy with that.

From what I can see those same people have no idea who they want to take over either, what they want to see (attacking philosophy keeps cropping up which is funny in a perverse way) or what they think this club wants either.

I can't think of a time since the 80s when the club has been so at sea.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

PIERS MORGAN: The sacking of Jose Mourinho is the worst decision in football history - shameful Chelsea should have let HIM sack his treacherous prima donna stars for playing like Christmas turkeys and conspiring to bring him down

Piers Morgan that well known football and Chelsea expert.

[bellion 170]

His management style won us the league last season though. You talk about the good of the team well we've lost a top manager and gained what exactly? Maybe that remains to be seen but once again we've sacked a manager rather than backing him and some people seem happy with that.

From what I can see those same people have no idea who they want to take over either, what they want to see (attacking philosophy keeps cropping up which is funny in a perverse way) or what they think this club wants either.

I can't think of a time since the 80s when the club has been so at sea.

Won the league at what price? The results are evident this season right up till he was sacked. Admit it, Mourinho is just a modern day nomad manager.

[illmatic 901]

I feel very sad because I think that the step of Mou here, don't deserved to finish of this form.

But well, the done, is done.

Good luck, wherever you go. Eternal admiration. You always will be one of us.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

His management style won us the league last season though. You talk about the good of the team well we've lost a top manager and gained what exactly? Maybe that remains to be seen but once again we've sacked a manager rather than backing him and some people seem happy with that.

From what I can see those same people have no idea who they want to take over either, what they want to see (attacking philosophy keeps cropping up which is funny in a perverse way) or what they think this club wants either.

I can't think of a time since the 80s when the club has been so at sea.

I think Jose had some issues this term, but I'm not happy he was sacked. The list of potential managers reads: shit, shit, had him - shit, shit, meh, shit

I think the club will improve in the short term, but it's kept the long term trend going. Namely, we don't keep managers. Roman wanted Barca in blue, but it's more like Madrid in blue.

Another manager in, another one trying to fit other manager's players in to the wrong holes.

As for his management style. I think his style is to win right away. He gets the chip on the player's shoulders, but I don't think they can sustain it. I don't think many players can match his intensity.

These are criticisms, but I'm still sad to see him go.

[stroey 2,525]

Chelsea fans blast board

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/chelsea/10102675/chelsea-fans-blast-board

[Billy. 2,742]

very pissed at this, Should have sold off the cunts that didnt want to fight for this club first

[Ossie the King 634]

Won the league at what price? The results are evident this season right up till he was sacked. Admit it, Mourinho is just a modern day nomad manager.

Well I lost a few days I think celebrating.

He didn't have to be a nomad. He needed to find a home and he probably felt he had until the summer.

Fuck me....we sacked one of us. Never felt so disgusted in this club.

[Henrique 9,133]

PIERS MORGAN: The sacking of Jose Mourinho is the worst decision in football history - shameful Chelsea should have let HIM sack his treacherous prima donna stars for playing like Christmas turkeys and conspiring to bring him down

This article explains why Mourinho decided to go back to PL. In England Mourinho is not a manager, he is also an institute, and institute who is bigger than Chelsea, who will always be considered no more than a Russian's billionaire toy. Its really hard to imagine this kind of absurd line if was Liverpool or United sacking a manager that, despite grabbing the PL, left the team one point out of relegation zone, and with 9 defeats and only 4 victories.

For anyone outside England its really absurd hard to understand Mourinho's reputations as a football genius despite all evidences showing the opposite. Piers Morgan is not a Chelsea fan and he is not even a pundit, he doesn't know what been happening with Chelsea since 2013, so its really easy to understand he would come up with this kind of opinion. Days ago he came up with this on twitter "I support Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC". Its really weird when the subject is Chelsea, he is more concerned about the manager than the situation the club is in.

Piers Morgan

✔@piersmorgan

I support Arsenal FC, not Arsène FC. #afc

5:34 PM - 2 Nov 2015

[LDN Blue 7,903]

To be fair all this feels like a reset for me.

We can start afresh and focus on what we really want.

If you think this is bad, then how do you think Juventus felt when they got relegated?

But their board did great work and found a young manager to bring them back to relevance.

I think in time we can get back to that feel good attitude we once had buy these coming months are going to be tough.

If the board do a good business between now and summer it might help lighten the pain.

We should learn from Juventus in times like this.

Nah, bullshit lol. Don't kid yourself mate. How many times have we said that over the last decade? Scolari, Ancelotti, Villas-Boas, we all said the same thing about 'fresh start' and all that rhetoric. We're either in 'transition' or 'starting fresh', but neither project ever comes to fruition. The project is flawed. I call it a project, ya'll call it 'identity'.

Nothing changes. But is that so wrong? I mean our current model keeps us successful lol. New managers bring fresh ideas, agreed, but the same people are being put in charge of recruitment and failing considerably. I don't mind not matching City & United's spending, we have a good squad that needed tweaking, not overhauling (as Guardiola seems to have alluded to).

Mourinho shoulders blame, but you're naive if you think our Board has learned anything. Roman, himself, decided on Villas-Boas and soon abandoned that project. He then had a personal interest in bringing Mourinho back and that project was abandoned.

As will project Guardiola, Simeone, etc.

AGREE?

F*cking nonce.

How this man is given a spotlight I'll never know.

Mr Emanalo has spoken, I cannot fucking stand the bloke. I think he's hiding behind big figures at this club and I'd sack him now if it was me. Fucking yes man, nodding dog or whatever you want to call him. Ladies and gents, the man who brought you Djiloboji....Michael Emanalo!!

I mean, I get why everyone jumped on him today but let's face the facts.. He's just a yes man lol. The board have used him as communications medium right now, so he's naturally going to end up the scapegoat. Emenalo has nothing to do with this

I've had a very long day at work so just getting round to reading Emenalo's comments now - no wonder there are some many negative comments about him.

Emenalo dropped that fire today.

"Chelsea Football Club, one of the biggest clubs in the world, is one point above relegation. That's not good enough."

Ouch. No wonder the Mourinho fan boys are out in full force against the Right Honourable Michael Kevin Emenalo.

Lmao Styles you remember when Emenalo was a the centre of hatred when Mikel was equally hated. What did fans come out with? Because Emenalo was Nigerian, that's why Mikel remains . The funniest one was he conspired to have Wilkins sacked so he could overthrow Ancelotti and have his own way in the board .

The Right Honourable Michael Kevin Emenalo will go down in history as 'that' guy' :lol:

[Muzchap 8,966]

His management style won us the league last season though. You talk about the good of the team well we've lost a top manager and gained what exactly? Maybe that remains to be seen but once again we've sacked a manager rather than backing him and some people seem happy with that.

From what I can see those same people have no idea who they want to take over either, what they want to see (attacking philosophy keeps cropping up which is funny in a perverse way) or what they think this club wants either.

I can't think of a time since the 80s when the club has been so at sea.

Yes, I agree - he managed to pull off a miracle. Nobody denies he can win trophies, but consistently over a long period, that's where problems seem to have emerged. Let's face it, this season is pretty identical to his last season at Real Madrid - the outbursts, the alienation of players, the humiliation of Matic, the argument with Medical staff, the crazy pressers - just something snapped and he wasn't acting normal!

Attacking philosophy is a natural reaction to having a crop of attack minded players, but using them to try and grind out 1-0 wins, it's like using a Ferrari as a milk float - impractical and unrealistic. That in my mind is why there's so much chatter about attacking formation and philosophy, because that's what our current crop of players naturally gravitate towards.

I don't think the club is at sea.

We have made year on year advances towards cash neutrality, stadium expansion planned, great youth Acadamy and a move towards a sustainable business model. Thank God for FFP previously as it has put us in a great position to minimise the damage of the lack of revenue from this season.

Let's see what the interim manager can achieve and if there is an ultimate successor already in the wings.

Yes, it's a sad day, but now is the time for optimism I feel, it sure beats the alternatives...