The Mourinho Thread

[The Chels 2,502]

But Ivanovic is far more than a normal right back, he is one of the leaders in the team. He is a well respected member of the squad, he worked hard to achieve his goals, he is a personality who doesn't take shit, he directs his team mates, he stands up to the opponents during fights and he speaks to the officials!

Ivanovic is a leader? Hah! The only time he directs his teammates is when he tells them to do the defending for him. An awful choice for untouchable status and captaincy, truly awful.

[Stats 7,147]

I know we all want to see Baba play more but tbh I blame Mourinho for letting Bertrand leave firstly then letting Luis go. A major club competing for all honours should not be playing a CB at RB and a RB at LB long term. Like I have said before that should have been a short term solution, not a long term one. How many top teams in the world have two players constantly playing in an unnatural position? Teams will work us out as they know Azpi will struggle to get forward and Ivanovic will get caught out defensively when he attacks because he is not the fastest.

Some people here will say Bertrand wanted to go or he was not good enough. First response to that is he would not have wanted to go if he was promised first team football which he should have been. He was arguably the best LB last season and when he stepped in for Cole he performed very well and considering he is HG and developed through our academy I would have liked to see him at LB. Look at Bellerin at Arsenal. They gave him a chance and now has turned out to be one of the best RB in the league at the age of 20. We turned down the chance to sign Shaw when he could have solved our LB problems for years to come. But Bertrand is the one that annoys me. One of the best attacking and defensive LB around but we let him go, God knows why.

Then Luis, one of the best LB in Europe when we bought him came here and rarely started. Like why buy a player to rarely play him then sell him? Makes no sense.

We need natural width and the lack of it is costing us and Mourinho is to blame. We let the best LB available go and now we basically are doing the same we did with Luis to Baba. Luis was proven and should of had that LB spot guaranteed tbh but look. Mourinho and his choices of players who he keeps and let's go is extremely baffling.

[kobematabryant 400]

has it crossed your mind we might have been better keeping those players ..The DOUBLE you talk about included the COC .. The real Domestic double we have won once, Google to check out our manager then ,, We have also won the CL once Check who won that for us .. Oh and Check the Europa League at the same time

David Luiz? No way we would be better. Mata? Well he doesn't track back. Yes we would've been better with KDB in our team but still Mourinho, has managed to keep a good Net spend while achieving loads at Chelsea, something good these days with FFP laws. Plus, out of all the long term Chelsea managers, Mourinho has the highest win percentage, both of this terms are the highest.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

got any potential names?

Ancelotti and Klopp are fine. I've personally lobbied for the latter to be our new manager. But why not Emery at Sevilla? Love him. Marcelino at Villareal? Nuno? La Liga is producing some of the most talented managers in Europe right now. Schmidt. Montella. Pochettino and Conte. I liked Tuchel but he's now at Dortmund. Only 42, but talented. He's gone there and stabilized the ship. THIS, is what we should be looking at.

Young, hungry managers with new, fresh and the latest and most up-to-date ideas in football. Young, hungry managers who practice and preach an attacking/expansive football philosophy and actually implement it. Young, hungry managers who aren't afraid to trust in youth. Young, hungry managers who manage to attain a certain level of success relative to the teams' they manage. Other teams with far less resources than us are able to achieve these, so why not us?

We have to take some risks now and look at these sort of managers. These are the ones that can bring true stability to the club. If we want to stop the culture of firing managers, we have to start a culture of hiring the right men in the 1st place! Scolari, AVB, Di Matteo, Mourinho for the 2nd time, NEVER should have happened for several reasons many of us already know. The people responsible for these decisions need to be held accountable for their errors.

In more than a decade under Roman, we're yet to find a manager that even ticks most of the boxes. If we want to find that guy and pursue stability under that guy, Roman and the board are going to have to start thinking outside the box and taking some risks. (Preferably on managers from the truly big European leagues, who've shown their mettle, we don't want another AVB)

[Essien19 1,415]

Ivanovic is a leader? Hah! The only time he directs his teammates is when he tells them to do the defending for him. An awful choice for untouchable status and captaincy, truly awful.

A agree with you that this season he had bad moments.

But that doesn't take away his personality and his standing within the team.

In my point of view he is well respected and taken serious, that shows his captaincy,

a guy like Jose Mourinho doesn't give it to a nobody.

Agree to disagree i think!

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Those wanting Klopp in, are being very contradictory here. We are wanting the best manager in the world out because of inconsistency but we are wanting another inconsistent manager to take over? Shit makes no sense.

Yet another attempt to discredit a world class manager like Klopp in order to big up "best manager in the world", Mourinho. Last I checked, Klopp's Dortmund absolutely destroyed Mourinho's Real Madrid 4 goals to 1, while playing some of the most beautiful football I've seen in the last decade. That Dortmund team was built from scratch by Klopp. Mourinho had at his disposal the most expensively assembled team in the history of football (at least at the time).

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

The Ancelotti galore is what gets me in this thread

Here's an idea, let's bring back from retirement the great Arrigo Sacchi! Him i would accept over José

[zolayes 14,489]

David Luiz? No way we would be better. Mata? Well he doesn't track back. Yes we would've been better with KDB in our team but still Mourinho, has managed to keep a good Net spend while achieving loads at Chelsea, something good these days with FFP laws. Plus, out of all the long term Chelsea managers, Mourinho has the highest win percentage, both of this terms are the highest.

well I guess youre really one happy bunny ,, long may your deluded world last

[kobematabryant 400]

well I guess youre really one happy bunny ,, long may your deluded world last

Name me your ideal replacement.

[zolayes 14,489]

Name me your ideal replacement.

Ancelloti

[kobematabryant 400]

Yet another attempt to discredit a world class manager like Klopp in order to big up "best manager in the world", Mourinho. Last I checked, Klopp's Dortmund absolutely destroyed Mourinho's Real Madrid 4 goals to 1, while playing some of the most beautiful football I've seen in the last decade. That Dortmund team was built from scratch by Klopp. Mourinho had at his disposal the most expensively assembled team in the history of football (at least at the time).

Faux. Mourinho completely Built Porto FC from scratch and won them the Champions League, plus 2 Portuguese titles. Same thing can be said about his Inter side. At least Mourinho did not finish 7th in any of his seasons. Anyways, I'm not discrediting Klopp but at this current juncture, Mourinho is still our best possible manager to take us forward.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Ancelloti

So, tell us why would you prefer Ancelotti over Mourinho, with some sort of explanation to your choice, not just your usual ridiculing other members of the forum who happen to disagree with you.

Please do, i'm yet to see that.

[zolayes 14,489]

Faux. Mourinho completely Built Porto FC from scratch and won them the Champions League, plus 2 Portuguese titles. Same thing can be said about his Inter side. At least Mourinho did not finish 7th in any of his seasons. Anyways, I'm not discrediting Klopp but at this current juncture, Mourinho is still our best possible manager to take us forward.

well if he cant take us forward from our current position then we really are in the shit, btw do you mean he built a complete Porto team in the short time he was there ,

and he built the Inter side as well ... I DO know he didnt build the first team he had at Chelsea ,, Ranieri did that

[blues.bridge 343]

Faux. Mourinho completely Built Porto FC from scratch and won them the Champions League, plus 2 Portuguese titles. Same thing can be said about his Inter side. At least Mourinho did not finish 7th in any of his seasons. Anyways, I'm not discrediting Klopp but at this current juncture, Mourinho is still our best possible manager to take us forward.

mou yes, has built porto, but 13-14 years ago... the football is changed

[zolayes 14,489]

So, tell us why would you prefer Ancelotti over Mourinho, with some sort of explanation to your choice, not just your usual ridiculing other members of the forum who happen to disagree with you.

Please do, i'm yet to see that.

In the short time he was with us he won the League and Cup double ,, Without googling I think that has only been achieved by about 5 clubs i about 130 years ,

he encouraged youth ,, Wad more willing to give them genuine chances . Was able to both win and lose with grace . Made the Club less hated .

Was respectful to interviewers . That is a start.

[Billy. 2,742]

In the short time he was with us he won the League and Cup double ,, Without googling I think that has only been achieved by about 5 clubs i about 130 years ,

he encouraged youth ,, Wad more willing to give them genuine chances . Was able to both win and lose with grace . Made the Club less hated .

Was respectful to interviewers . That is a start.

Spot on. I was gutted when he was sacked.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

In the short time he was with us he won the League and Cup double ,, Without googling I think that has only been achieved by about 5 clubs i about 130 years ,

he encouraged youth ,, Wad more willing to give them genuine chances . Was able to both win and lose with grace . Made the Club less hated .

Was respectful to interviewers . That is a start.

Do you know however of Ancelotti record in a league?

In the 2010/11 season he went 6 matches without winning a single game, he's incredibly slow at understanding what the real problem is with a team in crisis (while José has been slow up until now he's slowly making changes) he's a tactically overrated manager and he's the last manager that should be around a team in bad form.

Ancelotti is only good when a team is built for him by his predecessor, you say he encouraged youth? Please...he's more stubborn than Mourinho in playing 28 years old players. And i've probably seen more of his teams than you ever did, so take it from me, he's not the right one for us.

But hey, he's a nice guy and reveals the first XI in the PC, so everything is fine.

[zolayes 14,489]

Do you know however of Ancelotti record in a league?

In the 2010/11 season he went 6 matches without winning a single game, he's incredibly slow at understanding what the real problem is with a team in crisis (while José has been slow up until now he's slowly making changes) he's a tactically overrated manager and he's the last manager that should be around a team in bad form.

Ancelotti is only good when a team is built for him by his predecessor, you say he encouraged youth? Please...he's more stubborn than Mourinho in playing 28 years old players. And i've probably seen more of his teams than you ever did, so take it from me, he's not the right one for us.

But hey, he's a nice guy and reveals the first XI in the PC, so everything is fine.

Player Roma

• Serie A: 1982–83
• Coppa Italia (4): 1979–80, 1980–81, 1983–84, 1985–86
• European Cup: Runners-up 1983–84

Milan

• European Cup: 1988–89, 1989–90
• UEFA Super Cup: 1989, 1990
• Serie A: 1987–88, 1991–92
• Supercoppa Italiana: 1988
• Intercontinental Cup: 1989, 1990

International

• FIFA World Cup Bronze Medal: 1990

Manager

Ancelotti won the UEFA Champions League twice as Milan manager

Juventus (1999–2001)

• UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999

Milan (2001–2009)

• UEFA Champions League: 2002–03, 2006–07
• UEFA Super Cup: 2003, 2007
• FIFA Club World Cup: 2007
• Serie A: 2003–04
• Coppa Italia: 2002–03
• Supercoppa Italiana: 2004

Chelsea (2009–2011)

• Premier League: 2009–10
• FA Cup: 2009–10
• FA Community Shield: 2009

Paris Saint-Germain (2011–2013)

• Ligue 1: 2012–13

Real Madrid (2013–2015)

• UEFA Champions League: 2013–14
• UEFA Super Cup: 2014
• FIFA Club World Cup: 2014
• Copa del Rey: 2013–14

Individual

• Serie A Coach of the Year: 2001, 2004
• Panchina d'Oro: 2002–03, 2003–04
• Ligue 1 Manager of the Year: 2012–13
• Premier League Manager of the Month: November 2009, August 2010, March 2011, April 2011
• La Liga Manager of the Month: October 2014
• UEFA Manager of the Year: 2002–03
• IFFHS World's Best Club Coach: 2007, 2014
• World Soccer Magazine Manager of the Year: 2003
• Globe Soccer Awards Best Coach of the Year: 2014
• FIFA World Coach of the Year (Runner-up): 2014^[51]
• Italian Football Hall of Fame: 2014^[39]
• A.S. Roma Hall of Fame: 2014^[52]
• A.C. Milan Hall of Fame^[53]

Orders

[zolayes 14,489]

quite impressive .. also one of only 2 men to have won the CL 3 times

[Billy. 2,742]

Do you know however of Ancelotti record in a league?

In the 2010/11 season he went 6 matches without winning a single game, he's incredibly slow at understanding what the real problem is with a team in crisis (while José has been slow up until now he's slowly making changes) he's a tactically overrated manager and he's the last manager that should be around a team in bad form.

Ancelotti is only good when a team is built for him by his predecessor, you say he encouraged youth? Please...he's more stubborn than Mourinho in playing 28 years old players. And i've probably seen more of his teams than you ever did, so take it from me, he's not the right one for us.

But hey, he's a nice guy and reveals the first XI in the PC, so everything is fine.

TBF Jose is doing fuck all to fix our issues at the moment, and one of the big ones is his ego