The Mourinho Thread

[Jase 43,479]

Why is he getting defensive now. I thought he doesn't care about criticism. I don't know what he expects people/media to call the brand of football he plays in virtually every big game. exhilarating?,captivating?, exciting?.

Since he apparently lives and dies by his philosophy, he should own up to it and not try to put a spin on it, it's boring football and that's fine as long as he's able to acknowledge that. You don't see other managers who deploy similar strategy cry about it when confronted instead they own up to it "It's far from pretty and exciting but it's an effective strategy" . That should have been Jose's response.

You mean you want him to say that just to satisfy your needs?

Why should Mourinho conform to the masses when he has a different view on the subject at hand? There's more than one way/approach to take in football and people are acting as if playing attacking football is the only way to go. All this talk about boring/negative football is really BS. It's almost as if people were only born in 2015 or they just decided to conveniently forget the attacking, expansive football we played in the first half of the season to suit their own agenda.

[didierforever 7,349]

some people just are not worth it... since we have all but won the league, and they dont have the ammunition of a "trophyless season" or "2 year trophydraught of jose" or even the ammunition of "just a PL is too little for a club like chelsea", now they have turned into purists.

poor beautiful football getting raped by the heinous monster that is jose mourinho.

[lionsden 4,689]

You mean you want him to say that just to satisfy your needs?

Why should Mourinho conform to the masses when he has a different view on the subject at hand? There's more than one way/approach to take in football and people are acting as if playing attacking football is the only way to go. All this talk about boring/negative football is really BS. It's almost as if people were only born in 2015 or they just decided to conveniently forget the attacking, expansive football we played in the first half of the season to suit their own agenda.

You all are right. the football we have played in the big games and from jan till now is the very definition of the beautiful game. exhilarating, mouth watering football on display. happy?

[Jase 43,479]

You all are right. the football we have played in the big games and from jan till now is the very definition of the beautiful game. exhilarating, mouth watering football on display.

Precisely what I alluded to in the previous post - selective memory. Only picking out certain games to say Mourinho is boring when there others to prove he isn't and there are circumstances as to why we have been playing differently this year but of course, people have chosen to ignore that as well.

[lionsden 4,689]

Precisely what I alluded to in the previous post - selective memory. Only picking out certain games to say Mourinho is boring when there others to prove he isn't and there are circumstances as to why we have been playing differently this year but of course, people have chosen to ignore that as well.

What the **** are you even talking about? The bone of contention here is that Jose bores the life out of neutrals, opposition fans and the non blue tinted Chelsea fans with the brand of football he plays in the big games since the topic was brought up after yet another drab, negative approach/performance in a big game.

The big games are usually what neutral fans watch and base their opinion on. Every time the opposition fans and neutrals watch us against a big/half decent teams, it just so happens that we spend 85 minutes of the game defending and not much else. . .like just over a week ago when they witness the champions elect playing at home against Man utd and ended up with only 30 odd percent possession.

I wonder why other big teams haven't earned such reputation. maybe, just maybe there's an element of truth to it. nevermind that we have actually been crap for 4 months now.

If Jose is worried about the criticism, he should use the big games which is the biggest advertisement of any club there is to play a more balanced and exciting brand of football.

[didierforever 7,349]

You all are right. the football we have played in the big games and from jan till now is the very definition of the beautiful game. exhilarating, mouth watering football on display. happy?

i thought we were playing football. with the ultimate objective of winning or like against arsenal - not losing. but well!!!

[Jase 43,479]

What the feck are you even talking about? The bone of contention here is that Jose bores the life out of neutrals and opposition fans with the brand of football he plays in the big games. The big games are usually what neutral fans usually watch and base their opinion on. nevermind that we have actually been crap for 4 months now.

There is nothing wrong with forming opinions based on the big games but to pass judgment based solely on that smacks of ignorance. If people feel it's boring and all that, then fine. But it doesn't make them right to say 'oh Mourinho is boring' just because of the big games. You don't judge a team's style of play just on the big games.

[didierforever 7,349]

What the **** are you even talking about? The bone of contention here is that Jose bores the life out of neutrals and opposition fans with the brand of football he plays in the big games. The big games are usually what neutral fans usually watch and base their opinion on. Every time the opposition fans and neutrals watch us against a big/half decent teams, it just so happens that we spend 85 minutes of the game defending and not much else. . .like just over a week ago when they witness the champions elect playing at home against Man utd and ended up with only 30 odd percent possession.

I wonder why other big teams haven't earned such reputation. maybe, just maybe there's an element of truth to it. nevermind that we have actually been crap for 4 months now.

If Jose is worried about the criticism, he should use the big games which is the biggest advertisement of your team to play a more balanced and exciting football.

so jose should play according to what viewers want to see,, hmm... next i will hear is, jose sucked all the fun out of PL by finishing the PL so early. look at city and how wonderfully they won their title.. JOGA BONITO!!!

we have been utter crap for 4 months. dont mind that we are unbeaten for 4 months in PL!!!! :lol:

what makes you think that jose gives a crap about what people think about his philosophy? or that he is looking to change people's opinions? i thought his comments were pretty straight forward as to what he thinks is the main priority when he makes his team go out on the field.

[lionsden 4,689]

i thought we were playing football. with the ultimate objective of winning or like against arsenal - not losing. but well!!!

Every big club plays with exactly the same objective but the process in which this objective is achieved is what makes a team boring or exciting and I'm sure everyone understands this but just playing dumb for the sake of defending jose.

[lionsden 4,689]

so jose should play according to what viewers want to see,, hmm... next i will hear is, jose sucked all the fun out of PL by finishing the PL so early. look at city and how wonderfully they won their title.. JOGA BONITO!!!

we have been utter crap for 4 months. dont mind that we are unbeaten for 4 months in PL!!!! :lol:

what makes you think that jose gives a crap about what people think about his philosophy? or that he is looking to change people's opinions? i thought his comments were pretty straight forward as to what he thinks is the main priority when he makes his team go out on the field.

The 5,000 word thesis or should I say interview that he recently gave on the matter for starters. Someone who doesn't give a damn would never try that hard to defend his approach to the point of trying to reinvent the definition of the beautiful game.

[lionsden 4,689]

There is nothing wrong with forming opinions based on the big games but to pass judgment based solely on that smacks of ignorance. If people feel it's boring and all that, then fine. But it doesn't make them right to say 'oh Mourinho is boring' just because of the big games. You don't judge a team's style of play just on the big games.

yes you do. Every big teams are expected to crush and bully majority of the smaller/inferior teams around. It's your performance and approach in the big games and big tournaments that reputations are built on. You can't only play exciting football against canon fodders and expect people to give you the credit when that's the bare minimum that's expected of you. Actually going toe to toe with a team closer to you in terms of talent and ability is the true mark of great and exciting teams. Was Pep's Barcelona team's reputation built on their performance against teams like Hercules,Almeria and co or was it built on their demolition of Mouirinho's Madrid and Fergie's united et al while playing excellent football to boot? Answer that question truthfully.

[didierforever 7,349]

Every big club plays with exactly the same objective but the process in which this objective is achieved is what makes a team boring or exciting and I'm sure everyone understands this but just playing dumb for the sake of defending jose.

hmmm.. so the only way to achieve an objective is attacking and glorious football.

this is so bloody strange. did not liverpool just need a point against us which we would have been so happy to give them and take one in return. yet, somehow they set out to meet their "objective" in the only way you deem it good enough to be accomplished. and see where it got them. oh well, dont let facts and realism knock you on your ass. lets all just play fifa/FM and set our team as a mindblowing attacking unit.

also, i am not sure how much of a club's mentality actually becomes a fan's mentality. but i feel there is some truth to it. in the past 2 weeks i have seen united and arsenal fans so vehemently say that we would rather take playing beautiful football than winning at the cost of defensive football. makes you think about the objectives does not it? i mean people at RM were not happy with jose even after the 2nd year where he won the la liga cos he pplayed counter attacking football.

and now we come down to our problem, 2 games against probably the 2 most inform PL teams. a 37 year old striker playing 135 minutes of those 180 minutes. 20 minutes played by a player who definitely looked like he had a concussion and in the remaining 25 minutes, we probably should have had 3 penalties. boring chelsea, indeed.

[didierforever 7,349]

The 5,000 word thesis or should I say interview that he recently gave on the matter for starters. Someone who doesn't give a damn would never try that hard to defend his approach to the point of trying to reinvent the definition of the beautiful game.

it was a press conference. he did not give an interview. he did not personally go and ask a channel to take his views.

journalists asked him about his opinion about people calling his team boring and he said the exact thing that i feel he thinks.

again, if you would have read his comments, you would have known that he did not try and reinvent anything. just said that sometimes, pragmatism is the best approach and how goals and not possession is the most important thing in football. nothin that a 4 year old watching football would not know, but unfortunately, a lot of "experienced" "fans" have lost sight of that.

[lionsden 4,689]

hmmm.. so the only way to achieve an objective is attacking and glorious football.

this is so bloody strange. did not liverpool just need a point against us which we would have been so happy to give them and take one in return. yet, somehow they set out to meet their "objective" in the only way you deem it good enough to be accomplished. and see where it got them. oh well, dont let facts and realism knock you on your ass. lets all just play fifa/FM and set our team as a mindblowing attacking unit.

also, i am not sure how much of a club's mentality actually becomes a fan's mentality. but i feel there is some truth to it. in the past 2 weeks i have seen united and arsenal fans so vehemently say that we would rather take playing beautiful football than winning at the cost of defensive football. makes you think about the objectives does not it? i mean people at RM were not happy with jose even after the 2nd year where he won the la liga cos he pplayed counter attacking football.

and now we come down to our problem, 2 games against probably the 2 most inform PL teams. a 37 year old striker playing 135 minutes of those 180 minutes. 20 minutes played by a player who definitely looked like he had a concussion and in the remaining 25 minutes, we probably should have had 3 penalties. boring chelsea, indeed.

Who said or insinuated such?

[empire of emotions 247]

How can anyone claim Arsene should get manager of the year??? What has he done to deserve it? Going out in the second round of the Champions league, again? Not finishing fourth for god knows how long? Hardly an achievement, since they would have ended up there if both Manchester clubs would have played up to their standards.

Don't get all they hype about Arsenal, even with their good run it's been a pretty standard year for them. Expect more of the same from them same next season Some injuries for key players (like Coquelin) without backup during some part of the year, which in turn will lead to massive points loss, which they can't make up for to mount to a decent title challenge

they're finally a title contender (if you can call it like that) after million years. that's the hype.

but i'm sure they will be 4th next year again.

[Jase 43,479]

yes you do. Every big teams are expected to crush and bully majority of the smaller/inferior teams around. It's your performance and approach in the big games and big tournaments that reputations are built on. You can't only play exciting football against canon fodders and expect people to give you the credit when that's the bare minimum that's expected of you. Actually going toe to toe with a team closer to you in terms of talent and ability is the true mark of great and exciting teams. Was Pep's Barcelona team's reputation built on their performance against teams like Hercules,Almeria and co or was it built on their demolition of Mouirinho's Madrid and Fergie's united et al while playing excellent football to boot? Answer that question truthfully.

Big teams are expected to crush the smaller sides but why should one take that for granted though? And Guardiola forged the reputation at Barcelona based on the performances in all of the games. To say it's built on just certain games is nonsense.

[lionsden 4,689]

they're finally a title contender (if you can call it like that) after million years. that's the hype.

but i'm sure they will be 4th next year again.

Manager of the year has to be Koeman. he's exceeded all expectation and even defied logic. Most people had them down as relegation candidates before the start of the season after losing the nucleus of their team. He's turned them into a contender for top 5 finish, in his first season no less.

[empire of emotions 247]

Manager of the year has to be Koeman. he's exceeded all expectation and even defied logic. Most people had them down as relegation candidates before the start of the season after losing the nucleus of their team. He's turned them into a contender for top 5 finish, in his first season no less.

i dont care what did koeman, pearson or other fucker did. since when is it a bigger achievement staying in the league over winning the league. and winning it with a minimum of 10+ pts ahead of the second place. in a strong and even league like the pl it's an award worthy success.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I don't think Jose will get it. City and Chelsea were pretty much nailed down champions. Koeman on the other hand had the toughest task, it should be his.

[DYC. 7,542]

Mourinho or Koeman for me. Mourinho would win more votes and receive more credit if he was more likeable, that's just how the world works.