Eva Carneiro Leaves Chelsea

[BlueLion. 21,491]

  On 03/11/2015 at 16:33, 11Drogba said:

Showing a pushover's silence as if it is a good thing is a typical argument bullies frequently use.

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[xPetrCechx 13,565]

  On 03/11/2015 at 07:17, BlueLion said:

She doesn't seem to realise that football is a business. Bayern's doctor of 40 years was sacked by Pep and took it with good grace. Have we heard Jon Fearn pipe up at all? Nope.

Eva rhymes with diva, afterall.

She has a right to complain for her demotion but Mourinho totally has a point: there is a game situation which physios must be aware of.

Frean is still here Btw?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

  On 03/11/2015 at 18:36, xPetrCechx said:

Frean is still here Btw?

As far as I'm aware, yep.

[nowhereman 7]

game situation my ass. she was asked by the referee himself twice to come in and treat Hazard. if she had declined to obey his order, she would have broken a doctor's professional code of conduct.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

  On 04/11/2015 at 01:05, nowhereman said:

game situation my ass. she was asked by the referee himself twice to come in and treat Hazard. if she had declined to obey his order, she would have broken a doctor's professional code of conduct.

I cannot believe that the incident you mention and the aftermarth are the 100% reasons why she left the club.

There just has to be more to it and if rumours are right, this had been simmering all summer and that incident was the straw that broke the camels back for everyone involved

[manpe 10,861]

  On 03/11/2015 at 16:27, BlueLion said:

That isn't what I'm saying, and they do have an obligation to the manager as they are part of his backroom staff. Eva didn't understand the game situation. By going onto the pitch to give treatment, it meant we'd be reduced to nine men. She misread the game situation. There is a difference to being aware of anaphylactic shock, cardic failure, etc., and realising someone has gone down to con the referee into giving a cheap free-kick.

She's a doctor, not a coach or a manager. Her job is to treat those who are injured, not understand game situations. Hazard appeared to be injured indicated by the ref evaluating the situation and calling on the medics. If Mourinho was so sure that he was faking it, then the first thing he should have done was turn to his bench and TELL his staff what they need to do... you know, actually MANAGED instead of going berzerk at people who were fulfilling their hippocratic oath. He considers himself to be the biggest genius of all time, does he expect other people to be the same? Or is his ego too big to share his brilliance with those who he's working with?

In my eyes this situation was 100% on Mourinho. Absolutely unnecessary and now he's reaping the "rewards" for his big mouth and telepathic powers. Father, son, husband, manager, psychic.

Tbf we should reserve judgement until we learn something from the actual trials. Right now it's all thin air speculation and our best source is a fucking lip reader.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

  On 03/11/2015 at 12:14, supporter said:

She is forgetting that she's just a doctor.

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

  On 04/11/2015 at 10:12, johnnythefirst said:

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

  On 04/11/2015 at 10:38, BlueLion said:

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

I know, it's the way he's wording it. Still, she didn't make a mistake, she got called on the field by the referee and Mou acted like a complete lunatic.

[Fulham Broadway 17,092]

  On 04/11/2015 at 10:38, BlueLion said:

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

Spot on. However much the media want peo9le to side with Carneiro, the bottom line is there are 20 000 doctors, one or two managers capable of raising millions of revenue for the business. Both employees, but one brings in more money. Thats all that matters when its boiled down

[supporter 3,088]

  On 04/11/2015 at 10:12, johnnythefirst said:

She's a doctor. Mourinho is 'just a football manager'.

If you get a heart attack tomorrow and both are in the same room with you, think about which one has the most valuable job.

This is a message to johnnythefirst but I can not give to "QUOTE".

To be honest, I'm bored with this issue. Here we are to talk about Chelsea and football, not to discuss if the medicine is more important than football. In life, medicine is more important, without any doubt, but here we are talking about football and everyone who is on a professional bench of a team in the elite must understand football, the "legal football" and the "other football", which is for smart people like when you are winning 1-0 and you lose time in a corner to gain time until the referee blows to end the match . That's the "other football.". And Eva (and the other doctor, which no one seems to remember him) did not understand how the "other football" works because we should not lose another player (Eden Hazard in this case) on the pitch when there were two minutes to finish the game and we had a free kick in our favor. That's all.

And let me tell you something, I think you can not trivialize on the subject of medicine. It seems to me infantile and inappropriate to compare what happened with Eden Hazard and when a player suffers a heart attack on the pitch during a match or when a person in his normal life suffers a heart attack. I think both situations do not have any relationship and is a very unpleasant comparison. You have to know that we are all people and some of us may have suffered the loss of a dear person in our family / friends and is unpleasant to hear how someone compares a heart attack with a player who simply received a kick.

I think All of us must be serious, respectful and adults. No one can trivialize with some issues.

And finally, I apologize if I've upset someone with some of my comments because it was not my intention. I hope I have clarified in this post what I think on this issue and I will not continue any discussion. Sorry if I upset someone.

For my part, this issue is totally finished and I will not discuss with anyone else about this because I want to talk about Chelsea and Football. GO BLUES!

[nowhereman 7]

Of course you're bored, cause your idol Mourinho is undefendable in this situation. I hope one day someone close to you gets fired/demoted because they just did their job professionally when requested by a person in authority TWICE.

[iseah100 5,612]

I'd still smash Eva

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

  On 04/11/2015 at 10:38, BlueLion said:

Not what he's saying. Being a doctor ranks pretty low in the football management hierarchy. In terms of a "valuable job" in the football world, doctors are entirely dispensable. Managers like Mourinho are not.

Depends on the situation. In a medical situation the doctor is the highest authority and the football manager is in fact just a football manager in such a situation.

Hazard was face down on the ground and the referee called the medical staff on to the pitch, twice even. There was no way of knowing what the extent of Hazard's injuries were.

I understand Mourinho's point about being a man down and not wanting to be down another man but the way he responded was just ridiculous.

I can understand that in the heat of the moment he'd yell at them. I can place that as emotions getting the better of him but to then afterwards insult them by calling them naive and then replacing them on the bench for the next games is just childish.

This entire situation has been handled in such a piss poor manner. Why couldn't he just keep this in house. Just talk to them person to person and explain to them what he expects from them in such a situation. Treat people with some god damn respect.

[blues.bridge 343]

Ri-back?

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

  On 17/12/2015 at 23:44, blues.bridge said:

Ri-back?

No chance.

She's still actually suing us.

[Muzchap 8,966]

She could be back mate - if as it seems we are not contesting her claim, she has remedies open to her and one of those is reinstatement

If the board haven't contested her claim, chances are they would be OK with reinstatement, it's then up to Eva if she wants to.

I'm pretty cool with that in all honesty and hope it happens, Eva had a nice vibe on the bench with the players

[iseah100 5,612]

Don't want her back.