Kieran. 6,317 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 36 minutes ago, kobematabryant said: Why can't we make HIDDINK our permanent manager? He's retiring at the end of the season. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unionjack 7,530 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 57 minutes ago, The Chels said: I wonder if the 'to sign within 10 days' stuff is supposed to serve as an ultimatum to Simeone. According to Corriere dello Sport, at least, Abramovich will only sign off on the deal if/when Simeone turns the position down. Watch us miss out on both http://www.football-italia.net/80455/chelsea-prefer-simeone-conte Thats what I was thinking. Specially having read somewhere that Roman was SUPPOSEDLY in Spain last week to meet Simeone. Whether Simeones been offered the job and hes playing hard to get and Contes now said put up or shut up. Ill say it again - It would be sods law to miss out on both and we get the revolving managers door again. Then Simeone will take over at that North London Club next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi1691 248 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 3 hours ago, kobematabryant said: Why can't we make HIDDINK our permanent manager? He wants to retire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi1691 248 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Jason said: Chelsea could be taking a big gamble making Antonio Conte their next manager The hatred the guardian displays towards Chelsea pisses me off. The case is utter garbage, so fitting it's in that rag that lives in the gutter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Henrique 9,054 Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 Conte as the favorite as the other names linked (Simeone and Allegri) speaks loud about people running the club. I'm not sure the those people know one thing or two about football. Conte is the typical Chelsea appointment. Lets think about our past managers: Scolari: Won WC with Brazil in 2002, and was doing really good with Portugal NT, making the portuguese side play their strongest football in decades. Ancelotti: humm, this guy is managing Milan and won 2 UCL for them. Lets bring him. Andre Villas Boas: hey, young portuguese manager, playing attacking football and just won an Europa League. The righ man. RDM: he was just an interim, but he just one one FA Cup and one UCL, we can't fire him, can we? Benitez: just an interim, but of course this board would look for someone with a CV with a big trophy. Mourinho: the squad was prepared for Guardiola, but we didn't get Guardiola, but we must get a TOP manager, a great one, a special one, so this man must be...Mourinho!!! Now lets think about those names. Simeone is only taken into consideration because he won La Liga in 2014 and made that year UCL Final. Allegri was playing UCL Final last season. Conte is managing one of the most important NT in the world and the nexo Euro is close, so he is in the spotlight just like other coachs from big european NT. I'm still waiting the day Chelsea will make an appointment like Pochettino in Spurs, or Luis Enrique in Barcelona, or even Simeone, before he was famous as a coach. In PL we have some good coachs than can prove to be great ones If they have the opportunity manage better players, like Koeman, Bilic or Quique Flores, but of course this board won't even consider appointing someone from Watford, Southampton or West Ham, they need someone with a fancy brand in their CV, so course they want someone who is "Italy head coach". Even when the board appoint a "promissing" manager, its based in the fact that manager won Europa League and portuguese League with an attacking football based Porto. Conte might be the right man at the end of the day, but I really doubt the board is getting Conte beacuse they indentified him as the right man, I really doubt they know his tactics and football phylosophy, it seems its more based in the fact he is Italy head coach and won some trophies with Juventus in the past and is available. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Henrique said: Conte might be the right man at the end of the day, but I really doubt the board is getting Conte beacuse they indentified him as the right man, I really doubt they know his tactics and football phylosophy, it seems its more based in the fact he is Italy head coach and won some trophies with Juventus in the past and is available. Have to disagree with that. I doubt Roman and the board not did some careful consideration before making any decision for manager appointments. We set the standard so high for any manager, hence we have no problem pay mega bucks for manager release clause or terminating their contract with huge compensation when they couldn't fulfill the job. Yes, not all manager chosen do wonders, but we're certainly not playing with manager appointment, just because 'he is the only one available, let's hire him' factor. I think we're the last club to be considered doing that. Yes, of course Conte's time at Juve come as a consideration to decide his appointment here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Jason said: Chelsea could be taking a big gamble making Antonio Conte their next manager That article is the worst think i have read. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 8 hours ago, The Chels said: I wonder if the 'to sign within 10 days' stuff is supposed to serve as an ultimatum to Simeone. According to Corriere dello Sport, at least, Abramovich will only sign off on the deal if/when Simeone turns the position down. Watch us miss out on both http://www.football-italia.net/80455/chelsea-prefer-simeone-conte Dimarzio said that Conte is the favourit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madmax 9,219 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Forget everything else, what a picture ^ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Henrique 9,054 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 4 hours ago, RoyalBlues said: Have to disagree with that. I doubt Roman and the board not did some careful consideration before making any decision for manager appointments. We set the standard so high for any manager, hence we have no problem pay mega bucks for manager release clause or terminating their contract with huge compensation when they couldn't fulfill the job. Yes, not all manager chosen do wonders, but we're certainly not playing with manager appointment, just because 'he is the only one available, let's hire him' factor. I think we're the last club to be considered doing that. Yes, of course Conte's time at Juve come as a consideration to decide his appointment here. The board do take some careful consideration before making decisions, but we should be asking what they take into consideration, and as I said it my first post, Chelsea usually make some obvious appointments: a big name with big trophy in his CV (Ancelotti, Mourinho MK II, Benitez or Hiddink) or a "promissing" manager, and that means someone who won a smaller trophy (Andre Villas Boas, or the news that the board was also considering Sampaoli, who just won Copa América with Chile). Simeone already was a great manager in 2013, but he was only on Chelsea radar after his 13/14 season, and If Conte, instead of getting Italy job was at this moment working in Southampton or Aton Villas, I really doubt the board would even consider appointing him, and thats my point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lucio 4,432 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 11 hours ago, kobematabryant said: Why can't we make HIDDINK our permanent manager? because he's at a retiring age, would probably be sacked, and we need someone young and in their prime to rebuild us- as lpool city and utd will have 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 13 hours ago, kobematabryant said: Why can't we make HIDDINK our permanent manager? Because he doesn't want to? You can't force old Dutch men to do age-inappropriate jobs they don't want to do. That's called slavery and usually you'd need to move your headquarters to some Pacific island and get 10-year-old Chinese children for that... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unionjack 7,530 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 7 hours ago, RoyalBlues said: 10 hours ago, Henrique said: Conte as the favorite as the other names linked (Simeone and Allegri) speaks loud about people running the club. I'm not sure the those people know one thing or two about football. Conte is the typical Chelsea appointment. Lets think about our past managers: Scolari: Won WC with Brazil in 2002, and was doing really good with Portugal NT, making the portuguese side play their strongest football in decades. Ancelotti: humm, this guy is managing Milan and won 2 UCL for them. Lets bring him. Andre Villas Boas: hey, young portuguese manager, playing attacking football and just won an Europa League. The righ man. RDM: he was just an interim, but he just one one FA Cup and one UCL, we can't fire him, can we? Benitez: just an interim, but of course this board would look for someone with a CV with a big trophy. Mourinho: the squad was prepared for Guardiola, but we didn't get Guardiola, but we must get a TOP manager, a great one, a special one, so this man must be...Mourinho!!! Now lets think about those names. Simeone is only taken into consideration because he won La Liga in 2014 and made that year UCL Final. Allegri was playing UCL Final last season. Conte is managing one of the most important NT in the world and the nexo Euro is close, so he is in the spotlight just like other coachs from big european NT. I'm still waiting the day Chelsea will make an appointment like Pochettino in Spurs, or Luis Enrique in Barcelona, or even Simeone, before he was famous as a coach. In PL we have some good coachs than can prove to be great ones If they have the opportunity manage better players, like Koeman, Bilic or Quique Flores, but of course this board won't even consider appointing someone from Watford, Southampton or West Ham, they need someone with a fancy brand in their CV, so course they want someone who is "Italy head coach". Even when the board appoint a "promissing" manager, its based in the fact that manager won Europa League and portuguese League with an attacking football based Porto. Conte might be the right man at the end of the day, but I really doubt the board is getting Conte beacuse they indentified him as the right man, I really doubt they know his tactics and football phylosophy, it seems its more based in the fact he is Italy head coach and won some trophies with Juventus in the past and is available. 3 hours ago, Henrique said: The board do take some careful consideration before making decisions, but we should be asking what they take into consideration, and as I said it my first post, Chelsea usually make some obvious appointments: a big name with big trophy in his CV (Ancelotti, Mourinho MK II, Benitez or Hiddink) or a "promissing" manager, and that means someone who won a smaller trophy (Andre Villas Boas, or the news that the board was also considering Sampaoli, who just won Copa América with Chile). Simeone already was a great manager in 2013, but he was only on Chelsea radar after his 13/14 season, and If Conte, instead of getting Italy job was at this moment working in Southampton or Aton Villas, I really doubt the board would even consider appointing him, and thats my point. Have to disagree with that. I doubt Roman and the board not did some careful consideration before making any decision for manager appointments. We set the standard so high for any manager, hence we have no problem pay mega bucks for manager release clause or terminating their contract with huge compensation when they couldn't fulfill the job. Yes, not all manager chosen do wonders, but we're certainly not playing with manager appointment, just because 'he is the only one available, let's hire him' factor. I think we're the last club to be considered doing that. Yes, of course Conte's time at Juve come as a consideration to decide his appointment here. The problem we have as I see it in General is we have lost our way. We have lost our character and identity. So instead of getting managers to suit us we are getting managers and we are adapting to them. So it doesn't really matter what manager we get as long as hes strong and commited to winning. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,434 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Although we are different quality to Sunderland you only need to look at Dick Advocaat to see the potential danger of deciding to coax Guus out of retirement, even if he says yes. The full time job is a different kettle of fish to a 'save us' interim spell, Advocaat came back last summer, looked unmotivated and disinterested and looked every bit like a man who was persuaded to do something he didn't really want to do, the result? He walked after a failed attempt at full time job. There is a danger that could happen with Hiddink, and he is on the way to another brilliant interim spell, do we really want to taint that with a flop go at the full time job? Also he hasn't enterily convinced me with his team selections and tactics (unlike 2009 when he was a genius in that regard, completely took Rafa to the cleaners and nullified a Barca side sweeping all before them), not really a problem in this interim spell because his main task is to get the feel good factor and momentum back (which he is doing a great job with), but next season that could be a problem when it comes to competing with Pep and possibly Jose (won't include Klopp because that Liverpool team are such a state they won't be in the top four for another two years minimum). 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laylabelle 8,376 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 For all the work he's done so far and way we've changed I'd rather him leave end of the season on a high note then stay on and leave on a low. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post xPetrCechx 13,323 Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 We need a manager that will help those kids... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the wes 7,211 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Antonio Conte simiar to Jose Mourinho, Shaun Custis tells Sunday Supplement http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10185148/controversial-antonio-conte-simiar-to-jose-mourinho-shaun-custis-tells-sunday-supplement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manpe 10,565 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 51 minutes ago, the wes said: Antonio Conte simiar to Jose Mourinho, Shaun Custis tells Sunday Supplement http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10185148/controversial-antonio-conte-simiar-to-jose-mourinho-shaun-custis-tells-sunday-supplement? If he is similar to the younger version of Mourinho, then I'm all for it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themightyblue 443 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Are there any other examples of Conte's use of youth. There's obviously Pogba, but what about him promoting players from the academy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Henrique 9,054 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 hour ago, the wes said: Antonio Conte simiar to Jose Mourinho, Shaun Custis tells Sunday Supplement http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10185148/controversial-antonio-conte-simiar-to-jose-mourinho-shaun-custis-tells-sunday-supplement? Every young outspoken manager is "similar to Mourinho" for british press. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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