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5 hours ago, Gappy said:

 

If we got Conte

At the beginning of the next season will like LVG at Man Utd

He need to finish his job at Italy Int. In EURO first and then start his work here

If Italy go in a deep round it mean he'll has less time to start the season with us

We may lost another Market period and again ... our stars will look chubby at the start of the next season.

Its not them being a load of fatboys I'm worried about its Conte not turning up for work till the Italians get sent packing. This season more than most we need someone sorting out the mess and putting a plan together and not look at us as 2nd important. Plus taking them on a tour in the States takes more bloody time away from training. All to chase the Yankee dollar.

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47 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

There's no reason at all for not challenging the title next season, wtf are you saying?

The 'fuck' that I'm saying is that it is almost impossible to go from a bottom half finish to winning the league in the EPL regardless of how many players you buy. 

We have too many problems in our squad. It's just too big a step up to take. 

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47 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

The 'fuck' that I'm saying is that it is almost impossible to go from a bottom half finish to winning the league in the EPL regardless of how many players you buy. 

We have too many problems in our squad. It's just too big a step up to take. 

We're not a bottom half team, we're there because of special circumstances and there's no top team in the PL at the moment(Arsenal/United are shite, Liverpool is a incognite, Leicester will be dismantled and would never keep this momentum anyway). It may change with Guardiola arrival, but we can be a top team too with a couple of additions and we'll have 100% focus on the league, anything but title challenge is a failure.

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32 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

The 'fuck' that I'm saying is that it is almost impossible to go from a bottom half finish to winning the league in the EPL regardless of how many players you buy. 

We have too many problems in our squad. It's just too big a step up to take. 

LEICESTER?

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8 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

Allegri got an easy path until the semis, Juve will probably be already out in a few weeks this season.

We beat Dortmund without conceding a goal in 180 minutes and we made five, indeed only an own goal for dortmund, we beat Real Madrid and we played with Barcelona until that damn penalty not whistled just before the Suarez goal of 2 to 1 ....
This year we beat City 2 times and recovered a very difficult match against Bayern who scored 1 irregular goal, with a penalty not given for vidal hands
We are not complaining Allegri.
I just explained how things went, and if Juve will come out champions in 2 weeks is just because he met with Bayern, no matter how you stay in the competition, but against who you play.

 

I'm sorry but I do not think what you say is correct. Things you have to analyze it better.

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15 minutes ago, Zenza001 said:

We beat Dortmund without conceding a goal in 180 minutes and we made five, indeed only an own goal for dortmund, we beat Real Madrid and we played with Barcelona until that damn penalty not whistled just before the Suarez goal of 2 to 1 ....
This year we beat City 2 times and recovered a very difficult match against Bayern who scored 1 irregular goal, with a penalty not given for vidal hands
We are not complaining Allegri.
I just explained how things went, and if Juve will come out champions in 2 weeks is just because he met with Bayern, no matter how you stay in the competition, but against who you play.

 

I'm sorry but I do not think what you say is correct. Things you have to analyze it better.

Dortmund was in their worse form ever, you were great against Real but i can't see anything that Conte couldn't do either. I don't want to disregard Allegri's merits, but i'm seeing some Juve fans saying how Allegri is great on Europe and Conte is a coward, when in fact that's simply untrue. I think Allegri is not a top nor a bad manager, the fact is that Juve has a great team built by Conte and sooner or later would challenge in Europe.

Look at Chelsea post-Mourinho first tenure, we reached the final with Avram Grant(a penalty away from winning), something that Mourinho never achieved with us, so is Avram Grant > Mourinho? Even the merits of our 2012 win are mostly due to Mourinho's foundations back then.

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2 hours ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

We're not a bottom half team, we're there because of special circumstances and there's no top team in the PL at the moment(Arsenal/United are shite, Liverpool is a icognite, Leicester will be dismantled and would never keep this momentum anyway) it may change with Guardiola arrival, but we can be a top team too with a couple of additions and we'll have 100% focus on the league, anything but tittle challenge is a failure.

The special circumstance is that we've been consistently performing like a a bottom half team. Even under Guus, our form would at best have us competing for top four.

There are A LOT of teams well ahead of us. City will have Guardiola and the best squad in the league. United will have Jose and a huge budget. Tottenham have performed better than any other team this season and Arsenal have a homogeneous squad that has a lot of chemistry. 

All of those teams are well us. It would take a near miracle for us to beat all of them to the title next season.

No top four challenge is much more realistic. 

 

2 hours ago, magic weeds said:

LEICESTER?

No, I'd say our chances of winning the season next season is better than Leicester's was at the start of this season. But still VERY unlikely.

 

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

No way will we finish bottom half, we will finish atleast 7th were Juve did two seasons before Conte came in.

It won't be easy, but unlike the last time we dropped out of the top 4 (to be saved by Munich) we have a quality squad already, the correct additions could have us challenging again (especially if we can keep Costa fit and firing for the whole season).

Usually I would agree that's its impossible to go from anything 4th or below to first the following season, in fact I was banging that drum loudly in 2012, but (like Dortmund last season) we will finish low due to an extremely fluke set of circumstances, and with a decent summer I can see us recovering to challenge.

At least 7th? That's optimistic. There is a genuine chance we finish bottom half. Most likely we'll finish around 7th to 9th.

Think it will take an equally fluke set of circumstance for us to win the title next season..

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The special circumstance is that we've been consistently performing like a a bottom half team. Even under Guus, our form would at best have us competing for top four.

There are A LOT of teams well ahead of us. City will have Guardiola and the best squad in the league. United will have Jose and a huge budget. Tottenham have performed better than any other team this season and Arsenal have a homogeneous squad that has a lot of chemistry. 

All of those teams are well us. It would take a near miracle for us to beat all of them to the title next season.

No top four challenge is much more realistic. 

 

No, I'd say our chances of winning the season next season is better than Leicester's was at the start of this season. But still VERY unlikely.

 

At least 7th? That's optimistic. There is a genuine chance we finish bottom half. Most likely we'll finish around 7th to 9th.

Think it will take an equally fluke set of circumstance for us to win the title next season..

 

United well ahead of us :lol:

About the others, Tottenham is very good right now but still unproven, Arsenal will remain a bunch of losers until Wenger leaves, City is not in a very different situation than ours, their squad is about the same level and will have a new manager; you have a damn pessimistic attitude or don't know much about football, your LOT of teams well ahead of us are actually zero :D

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6 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

United well ahead of us :lol:

About the others, Tottenham is very good right now but still unproven, Arsenal will remain a bunch of losers until Wenger leaves, City is not in a very different situation than ours, their squad is about the same level and will have a new manager; you have a damn pessimistic attitude or don't know much about football, your LOT of teams well ahead of us are actually zero :D

Well if you say so...Have a nice day. 

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I actually agree that we aren't far away from anyone in terms of quality. I'd fancy us head to head against Arsenal, Spuds, and United. Us being consistent against the small teams is the problem.

If Conte hits the ground running and makes great signings I see no reason why we shouldn't challenge for the title next season. The goal has to be top 4 and we certainly won't be title favorites, but if we aren't within touching distance by the end of the season I'd be massively disappointed. We have a better first XI than both United and Spurs now. They've performed terribly this season, yes, but the quality is there and many of them are steadily returning to their real level right now.

Properly motivated and with a fresh start should be huge.

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30 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

The special circumstance is that we've been consistently performing like a a bottom half team. Even under Guus, our form would at best have us competing for top four.

There are A LOT of teams well ahead of us. City will have Guardiola and the best squad in the league. United will have Jose and a huge budget. Tottenham have performed better than any other team this season and Arsenal have a homogeneous squad that has a lot of chemistry. 

All of those teams are well us. It would take a near miracle for us to beat all of them to the title next season.

No top four challenge is much more realistic. 

 

No, I'd say our chances of winning the season next season is better than Leicester's was at the start of this season. But still VERY unlikely.

 

At least 7th? That's optimistic. There is a genuine chance we finish bottom half. Most likely we'll finish around 7th to 9th.

Think it will take an equally fluke set of circumstance for us to win the title next season..

If we look at the table since Guus took charge we would be third, with a chance to go second Vs Saints and seven points behind Spurs with them still to come to The Bridge, win that one and we have a chance of being top from Guus coming in till the end.

When has a team with this quality ever finished bottom half? Even Dortmund last season eventually got their shit together and got Europa.

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18 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If we look at the table since Guus took charge we would be third, with a chance to go second Vs Saints and seven points behind Spurs with them still to come to The Bridge, win that one and we have a chance of being top from Guus coming in till the end.

When has a team with this quality ever finished bottom half? Even Dortmund last season eventually got their shit together and got Europa.

That's a fairly small sample coinciding with a lot of the teams at the top dropping points unexpectedly. We're averaging 1.8 points per match in the EPL (18 from 10 matches). Over a season that would give you 68/9 points. Most seasons that wouldn't even get you top 4. 

Quality is subjective. What isn't is the league table. After 26 rounds, i.e. more than two-thirds of the season in, we have constantly been in the bottom half. We've been waiting 7 months this season for a magical resurgence that keeps getting more and more unlikely to come. 

 

25 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

You really are full of the joys of spring and Chelsea fight aren't you.

Excuse me? 

 

25 minutes ago, Stats said:

The horrendous season mostly pre-Hiddink arrival is leaving you really paro. Tottenham are not well ahead of us. I would back with the right arrivals and hopefully key players staying put, we will finish above them next season. If you look at star players, we have more than them.  City will be the standout team on paper. Arsenal and us are on about the same level in terms of quality. We are better than United but they are just in a better position because of all the catastrophies going on earlier in the season. United will have loads of money but yeah they need quite an overhaul imo and it will not be easy to make them world beaters all of a sudden. But to say United and Spurs are well ahead of us is way OTT. I think we are better than both. Spurs are having an excellent season though but really the only team I think I would say is going to be the one to beat for sure next season is City. The rest we are easily capable of finishing above.

And for sure I do think we will be in top 4 hopefully next season. No chance we will finish bottom half.

Performance wise Tottenham have been above everyone in the league this season. I think we can objectively say that. And as I said Arsenal have a working system and a lot of chemistry, unlike us. United are having a equally bad season as us, but they will spend more in the market and have Jose who will have them punching 10 points above their weight.

I'm sorry, but saying that there is NO CHANCE we will finish bottom half is just arrogance. We are currently deservedly in the bottom half of the table. There are no guarantees that we'll play well enough to rise to the top half in the last third of the season. 

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This is a weird season all round us struggling, Leicester top of the league etc the truth the quality of the league is at an all time low. We could quite easily win the league next year because as we are seeing there is not one outstanding team. The English Premier League you can roll off the superlatives (cliches really) about it being the most competitive and exciting league etc the reality is don't believe the hype. Fair play to Leicester and it sticks in the craw Tottenham but both of them will struggle to get out of the group stage in the Champions League. 

Conte if he's left to his own devices will do a good job and I'm looking forward to next season if it's him in charge. Certainly can't see him having us perilously close to the relegation zone by November. Ranieri who managed a team who lost to the Faroe Islands is now managing a team who are top of the league says it all really.

 

 

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