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It depends on what are you looking.Do you want a top manager with charisma and enormous technical capabilities then the choice is Antonio Conte if you want a avarage/good manager but very lucky then t

hi from a Napoli supporter   i'm very sad for the loosing of Sarri, he is a real football Maestro, I saw the best Napoli in 90 years of history of the club, better than Maradona's Napoli, with a decen

I read the news here in Italy where it seems that Conte will become the next coach of Chelsea .... by Juventus fan ... and one that literally he loved juventus.of Conte ... if Antonio arrives at chels

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2 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

That's it. I do think Sarri has had his faults this season.. A lot and seems so much behind the scenes crap going on as well.  Didn't deserve what happened today at all. 

Just annoying how set we seemed years back with Jose and then that went so sour.. Twice! 

Yeah especially as we may only have window for a while.. Lets hope they do spend correctly. 

It is the reality but people don't want to accept it. We are still one of the biggest team in England,but squad wise we are 5th and we cannot compete with city and united in term spending power. The other two teams spend 3 years building their teams with the same manager. 

Yesterday people didn't see how much better our build up against pressing. How we didn't just sit deep the whole time but we press at times. It is massive improvement under Conte because whenever we got pressed we just capitulate. This imo is more important. Not oh, it was a tactical masterclass of that kind of bs.

But noone talk about this because this is not important for them. They will say where the f is Sarriball. 

 

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1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

I don't think so, otherwise he would have made the same thing in the semi against Spurs. Its also pretty clear that Willy wasn't ready to be introduce as he was clearly in a hurry to get ready with his gloves and other stuff.

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Overall he's average but his penalty record is insane, he saves every other kick he faces on average.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Overall he's average but his penalty record is insane, he saves every other kick he faces on average.

Not to mention he was a City player and is used to the way some players take penalties. Some of them would be less confident in front of a former teammate. 

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4 hours ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

Manager has the right to alter his plan as and when depending on the situation. One way for looking at it is that Kepa went down in the last 10 mins and that must have put a thought on Sarri's mind to change the keeper. He doesnt have to communicate that. He gives the order and the players have to execute it.  

Why would someone drag off Kepa ... I imagine that happening and we would be a bigger laughing stock today morning. As far as no one being involved, Zola was clearly shouting it out for Kepa to come in, Luiz did the same on the pitch... he didnt and that's what must have infuriated Sarri. Come on, he is in the hot seat right now ... it's a final which if won mite buy him some time and moreover Sarri is an aggressive guy, how can u expect a clam reaction when his player is basically showing him the finger. 

I would have loved a controlled reaction from Sarri but then I cant fault his reaction as it's justified to how his personality is ... Imagine a Conte or a Mourinho in the situation ... 

 

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3 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

Manager has the right to alter his plan as and when depending on the situation. One way for looking at it is that Kepa went down in the last 10 mins and that must have put a thought on Sarri's mind to change the keeper. He doesnt have to communicate that. He gives the order and the players have to execute it.

If it was because of the injury, then Sarri was silly to react the way he did after Kepa said he was okay to continue. If it was pre-planned, then this should have been communicated beforehand and even if not, these things should at least be talked about in the team meeting.

9 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

Why would someone drag off Kepa ... I imagine that happening and we would be a bigger laughing stock today morning. As far as no one being involved, Zola was clearly shouting it out for Kepa to come in, Luiz did the same on the pitch...

I don't mean literally. Luiz did it in a half-hearted manner while Zola only did it once Sarri went ballistic. No one was really doing anything significant from preventing the situation to turn out as it did.

11 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

he didnt and that's what must have infuriated Sarri. Come on, he is in the hot seat right now ... it's a final which if won mite buy him some time and moreover Sarri is an aggressive guy, how can u expect a clam reaction when his player is basically showing him the finger. 

I would have loved a controlled reaction from Sarri but then I cant fault his reaction as it's justified to how his personality is ... Imagine a Conte or a Mourinho in the situation ... 

I don't blame Sarri for feeling angry but what I do expect from him is to be in charge of the situation, stand his ground if he really wanted that sub to happen. He's the manager of the team, he's supposed to be the leader and yet, he went totally ballistic and lost control of the situation.

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

If it was because of the injury, then Sarri was silly to react the way he did after Kepa said he was okay to continue. If it was pre-planned, then this should have been communicated beforehand and even if not, these things should at least be talked about in the team meeting.

Like I said, there are decision which happens in the moment irrespective to what is talked pre match or based on the dynamics on the ground ... it looked like that. Why is Sarri silly even if it was an injury ... he makes the call based on various factors not anyone else. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't mean literally. Luiz did it in a half-hearted manner while Zola only did it once Sarri went ballistic. No one was really doing anything significant from preventing the situation to turn out as it did.

I was referring to the fact that there were people involved in trying to get Kepa off ... Again what would u expect from Luiz to drag him out :) ... half hearted or otherwise ... he did try to convey the message. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't blame Sarri for feeling angry but what I do expect from him is to be in charge of the situation, stand his ground if he really wanted that sub to happen. He's the manager of the team, he's supposed to be the leader and yet, he went totally ballistic and lost control of the situation.

I respect your opinion but I dont blame his action and find it justified purely based on his personality ... I would loved to have a controlled reaction but I wouldnt blame him ... 

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1 minute ago, Kajo said:

No one is gonna touch this club with a stick after yesterday.

There will always be someone, not only that but the hefty wages we pay will always attract people. Plus, it's easy, they normally only get two seasons, get sacked and receive millions.

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If Sarri goes, our next permanent manager will likely be someone in the same sort of position that Sarri was in. Someone with a great record at a 2nd tier club who wants to prove they can take the step up to the big stage. No big name manager will touch us at this point. Honestly, there aren't even any big name managers left out there other than Mourinho so that doesn't matter. The big name managers we've been linked with in the past year or two are well settled and have no reason to leave (Simeone, Allegri, etc). 

And I hope the club don't get it in their head that we need a club legend or former assistant because it'll end in tears. We need someone highly experienced in a big league and who has managed star players/egos before. Can't afford to take some massive risk when you're competing with Pep, Klopp, Poch etc. 

 

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There will always be someone, not only that but the hefty wages we pay will always attract people. Plus, it's easy, they normally only get two seasons, get sacked and receive millions.
Well in case we gonna part ways with Sarri club will want to go for someone of higher caliber and usually those are the smart ones so no one will want to set himself up for a failure when there is countless problem at the club with no sight of them being address anytime soon.

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7 minutes ago, Kajo said:

Well in case we gonna part ways with Sarri club will want to go for someone of higher caliber and usually those are the smart ones so no one will want to set himself up for a failure when there is countless problem at the club with no sight of them being address anytime soon.

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people truly believe that someone like allegri or zidane or simeone could join chelsea? for what reason? to ruin their career? 

 

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10 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

people truly believe that someone like allegri or zidane or simeone could join chelsea? for what reason? to ruin their career? 

 

Big club paying big wages, based in London (which is a big attraction for a lot of foreign players and managers) and the added attraction of working in the Premier League.

We're not this poisoned chalice people make us out to be either, we've had some excellent managers here who have been successful and gone on to achieve further success elsewhere or left without their reputation damaged.

Even Sarri if he leaves at some stage this season, will still be highly regarded in Italy and get a top job back there.

Simeone I cannot see leaving Atletico. However Zidane is available and I see no reason why he wouldn't have some interest in the role. Similarly there's rumours Allegri may leave Juventus in the summer so again, he may be interested to try his hand in a new league next year.

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9 hours ago, Jason said:

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

then again, part of me thinks if it was pre planned, Willy would have already been warming up.  Its hard to say

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14 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

then again, part of me thinks if it was pre planned, Willy would have already been warming up.  Its hard to say

If Luiz's comments are anything to go by, then I don't think the players knew what was going on as well. 

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