Roquila 1,335 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe we're not as good as we think. Maybe just like United when Fergie left, this team would finish outside top 4 if Mou left. Think about it ...If Rafa could finish top3 with a worse team why couldn't Mou win the league with this team while playing good football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 If Rafa could finish top3 with a worse team why couldn't Mou win the league with this team while playing good football ? Why was the 2012-2013 team worse?We still had Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard and Juan Mata. Rest of the team was pretty similar, we already had Hazard and Oscar. Just Willian, Matic and Costa missing.Maybe Mata/Lamps is why we don't control the game anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lantern18 54 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What I'm saying is, it was a deserved red card, so what's the point in appealing. This is why I sometimes flat out despise the club's philosophy, making it seem as though we truly believe that there's a campaign against us and we're the victims all of the time. It's silly and embarrassing. You say that but some of the decisions that were on the receiving end of are very hard to take. If Courtois' challenge on Bafetimbi Gomis was worthy of a red card as you say, that horrible challenge by David Ospina on Oscar in the penalty area against Arsenal last year should of also resulted in a red card as well. This inconsistency is what makes these decisions so very hard to just sit back and accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Why was the 2012-2013 team worse?We still had Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard and Juan Mata. Rest of the team was pretty similar, we already had Hazard and Oscar. Just Willian, Matic and Costa missing.Maybe Mata/Lamps is why we don't control the game anymore.We had Mikel instead of Matic, Ramires/Lamps instead of Fabregas and wohooo, Torres and Ba instead of Costa,Remy,Falcao. Which team is worse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 If Ivanovic starts then we will most likely concede goals. Whether we have the firepower to equalise or even get the better of City is the most important factor of this game.Most of the lads are out of form, I just hope that they can get their shit together for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You get excited to see Fabregas, Hazard, Costa and Matic play but wait.. they don't get the ball at all. I know winning always comes first but other teams can do it in a better way, why can't we ?They don't get the ball? Those four players scored 48 of the 109 goals scored last season and had 42 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 If Ivanovic starts then we will most likely concede goals. Whether we have the firepower to equalise or even get the better of City is the most important factor of this game.Most of the lads are out of form, I just hope that they can get their shit together for this game.Don't forget that Ivanovic was one of the most important players for us last season. He hasn't been good so far, but we know it's in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 They don't get the ball? Those four players scored 48 of the 109 goals scored last season and had 42 assists.When the away team has 71% possesion you don't get the ball. It's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper245 40 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What is proper football? There's so many different teams and so many different styles of play, there isn't a proper way to play. I'd say we play proper football, because we won the title last year. There a various styles of football... longball, Boring ticka tacka Barca style, counter attacking style etc... it's what ever your team is best at to get the disired result. IMHO i prefered the pre christmas style of football than the post Tottenham style ... but in the end we won the premier league so im happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 When the away team has 71% possesion you don't get the ball. It's a fact.You would have preferred Mourinho to go all out attack on a United team that was on a hot winning streak, when Arsenal were also putting pressure on us for the title race and any amount of points would have been good to keep pace for the title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You would have preferred Mourinho to go all out attack on a United team that was on a hot winning streak, when Arsenal were also putting pressure on us for the title race and any amount of points would have been good to keep pace for the title?I would have preferred that the so called best manager in the world to grow some balls and actually play proper football. Haven't watched a good Chelsea game since we beat Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 There a various styles of football... longball, Boring ticka tacka Barca style, counter attacking style etc... it's what ever your team is best at to get the disired result. IMHO i prefered the pre christmas style of football than the post Tottenham style ... but in the end we won the premier league so im happy.I think everyone preferred watching pre-Christmas Chelsea. It's what got us to the top of the table, but it wasn't going to keep us there for the whole of the season. There's a reason Arsenal haven't won the title in years, and it's not from the lack of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I would have preferred that the so called best manager in the world to grow some balls and actually play proper football. Haven't watched a good Chelsea game since we beat Swansea.Again with the "proper football". IMO, he played proper football. He played his tactics right and got 3 valuable points against a hot team in the final stretch of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Don't forget that Ivanovic was one of the most important players for us last season. He hasn't been good so far, but we know it's in him.If he didn't have Willians protection then he would not have been as good. Willian is literally our second right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Again with the "proper football". IMO, he played proper football. He played his tactics right and got 3 valuable points against a hot team in the final stretch of the season.So, you're telling me you actually enjoyed the football we played since december last year? Not the results, the actual gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I reckon we will break the record against united and achieve less than 28% possession here. It will be ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 "Ungrateful" ... really??These players are paid over 200K a fookin week kicking a ball around and supporters trying to get by on a 30K / year salary investing every cent and minute of their time in the club, are "ungrateful cunts" for asking pretty please to show us some better football?What kind of a cunt are you man?Lets be honest, Chelsea's success has come playing as a more solid team with great defensive structure and shape than attacking instincts. I don't care how we play, we are successful playing a certain way and I'm proud of that to be fair. We as fans should support our team no matter how they play, not complain and not ask for prettier football... or prefer pretty football to trophies when we have built success playing our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So, you're telling me you actually enjoyed the football we played since december last year? Not the results, the actual gameplay.I would prefer to set every goal, goal difference and point record while winning the quadruple, but that's just not going to happen. Not with these players, not with this manager and not in this league. There's too many good teams. Since it's not going to happen, I want this team to play the way that gives them the best chance to win titles.Open, free play may be entertaining but if we get smashed 5-2 by City by playing that way, I'll take 1-0 or 0-0 any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I reckon we will break the record against united and achieve less than 28% possession here. It will be ugly. we're not that bad mate!If you look at these two teams, City haven't done as much in this transfer window. They've got Sterling who could be a threat, but they've got the same establishment that we've got. It's not like Matic, Hazard, Fabregas & co have regressed as much as it appears. It'll be an ugly match because Chelsea will go there with the intention to keep the match subdued and slow as possible, but we're hardly going to get demolished. These are still world-class players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakito 17 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 They are shit team with terrible defense and midfield, Stutgart destroyed them. 3-0 to the mighty blues and easy win with bus parking and counters. I hate sterling though he will cause many problems because of his dribbling and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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