Closed Chelsea 2-2 PSG

[ICI CI PARIS 4]

I like Coke and Chelsea

*cock

[Aucalme 3]

Here are the predictability indices of the various European leagues:

ENGLAND = 36.2%

SPAIN = 36.3%

ITALY = 36.7%

GERMANY = 36.4%

FRANCE = 36.4%

PORTUGAL = 36.3%

GREECE = 37.1%

BELGIUM = 37.2%

The closest the number is to 33%, the more difficult the league.

England appears to be marginally the hardest.

Some say it's the number of good teams, of championship quality, that makes the difficulty index. So Greece is easy because there are only one-two good teams and if we make 4-5 good teams Greek league will become like EPL.

Others say it's the difference in psyhology between the various countries.

The bookies tend to believe the latter theory.

About Belgium I don't know many things but this is the figure that comes out for Belgium.

Well thanks there is not a big difference between la liga and the BPL 0,1% even though I always hear that la liga is a 2 horses race

La liga 8 pts between 1st and 4th / 1pt between 1st and 2nd

BPL 10 pts / 5 pts

[Aucalme 3]

Really wonder why you, of all people, come to an English forum and talk about European competitions?! How many Champions League titles did PSG win so far??? You are embarassing yourself.

5 different teams from England have won the Champions League. 2 different teams from Spain, 3 different teams from Germany, 3 from Italy and only one from France. And guess what? That team is not PSG lol. Even Steaua Bucharest has more Champions League titles than your club.

The difference is I never said ligue 1 was the best league in the world

And I come here to discuss, am I not allowed to because I think the prem is overrated ?

I watch it and enjoy it but I still think it is

[cosmicway 1,333]

Well thanks there is not a big difference between la liga and the BPL 0,1% even though I always hear that la liga is a 2 horses race

La liga 8 pts between 1st and 4th / 1pt between 1st and 2nd

BPL 10 pts / 5 pts

No La Liga was always stiff to predict.

I believe it's the psychology.

In some countries when they are two goals down the throw the towel.

In England, no - they fight.

There is a tendency for things to equilibrate in that side of the affairs.

The issue who can do it in Europe, is another matter though.

[CMS 382]

How did they even get in a position to get a corner? This one is on Jose no questions about it... PSG was always gonna be dangerous in the air.

Why was JT marking Cahill?

[Aucalme 3]

No La Liga was always stiff to predict.

I believe it's the psychology.

In some countries when they are two goals down the throw the towel.

In England, no - they fight.

There is a tendency for things to equilibrate in that side of the affairs.

The issue who can do it in Europe, is another matter though.

It was great to have people like you and onemosalah to discuss with

you made interesting points

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Why was JT marking Cahill?

Those stills show nothing. They both misjudged the flight of the ball. The first two stills are milliseconds apart look at the clock. they ran into each other because the misjudged the ball coming in... end of.

My problem was the fact 10 man PSG were able to play their football so comfortably that they got enough chances to hurt us. SHould've never been the tactic, its so obvious.

[tawee75 39]

Why is that people are scared to call a spade a spade, and that is, our coach is to be blamed for this loss. In my opinion, we will regress if Mou continue to stay as a coach and these are my reasons:

1. He is a football coward. His team has been always been preoccupied with defends rather than total attacking football. During last season after string of losses to lower team in the league he said the team need to change the way they play and defend better and MAYBE WE WILL SCORE ONE OR TWO GOALS. A good coach do not rely on opponent's lapses to win games. He has been holding the team back with his negative and defensive setup. For example, in his first season against ManU in OT he went for a draw against ManU team that had loss all confidence due to preseason bad performance under a new coach Moyes. A win in that game could have won us the title. He also sat back against 10 man city and pack the bus at home in against them. Against Atletico last year and now PSG, we were eliminated from the CL at home when in fact we had the advantage.

2. He does not know how to bring the best out of players he not familiar with or players who are not preoccupied with defending. I have always been saying Schurle was not used properly when he was with us and i this is because i watch him and i don't see a winger in him. I rather see a pure striker instinct in his play and scoring vital goals for us, but Jose killed his confidence. For example, last season he scored a hat trick against Stokes and what did Jose did, he put him on the bench the next game. Salah was criticized openly by him for not being good enough, but now he is scoring willingly for Fiorentina. Why did he bring Drogba back? Couldn't Bamford have done better for the team and as well given him much needed confidence experience?

3. He will not give the youth chance. He promise at the beginning of the season that some of the youth will taste first team football, but he not giving them any opportunity, not even in Capital One and FA cups. Even when the team is winning he won't introduce the youth. Just look at United, Liverpool and Arsenal how they are bringing up the young ones. Are Janujai, Ibe, Sterling that better that Loftus, Brown, Boca and Ake?

We are winning the league bcos of poor challenge from City.

[CMS 382]

Why is that people are scared to call a spade a spade, and that is, our coach is to be blamed for this loss. In my opinion, we will regress if Mou continue to stay as a coach and these are my reasons:

1. He is a football coward. His team has been always been preoccupied with defends rather than total attacking football. During last season after string of losses to lower team in the league he said the team need to change the way they play and defend better and MAYBE WE WILL SCORE ONE OR TWO GOALS. A good coach do not rely on opponent's lapses to win games. He has been holding the team back with his negative and defensive setup. For example, in his first season against ManU in OT he went for a draw against ManU team that had loss all confidence due to preseason bad performance under a new coach Moyes. A win in that game could have won us the title. He also sat back against 10 man city and pack the bus at home in against them. Against Atletico last year and now PSG, we were eliminated from the CL at home when in fact we had the advantage.

2. He does not know how to bring the best out of players he not familiar with or players who are not preoccupied with defending. I have always been saying Schurle was not used properly when he was with us and i this is because i watch him and i don't see a winger in him. I rather see a pure striker instinct in his play and scoring vital goals for us, but Jose killed his confidence. For example, last season he scored a hat trick against Stokes and what did Jose did, he put him on the bench the next game. Salah was criticized openly by him for not being good enough, but now he is scoring willingly for Fiorentina. Why did he bring Drogba back? Couldn't Bamford have done better for the team and as well given him much needed confidence experience?

3. He will not give the youth chance. He promise at the beginning of the season that some of the youth will taste first team football, but he not giving them any opportunity, not even in Capital One and FA cups. Even when the team is winning he won't introduce the youth. Just look at United, Liverpool and Arsenal how they are bringing up the young ones. Are Janujai, Ibe, Sterling that better that Loftus, Brown, Boca and Ake?

We are winning the league bcos of poor challenge from City.

So they should fire him and go bring another coach?

[CMS 382]

Those stills show nothing. They both misjudged the flight of the ball. The first two stills are milliseconds apart look at the clock. they ran into each other because the misjudged the ball coming in... end of.

My problem was the fact 10 man PSG were able to play their football so comfortably that they got enough chances to hurt us. SHould've never been the tactic, its so obvious.

So was the first PSG goal not from a corner and headed in by David too?

Or the goal by Cavani in Paris was not a header too from a corner?

Let me guess, it was a millisecond error in all three instances.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So was the first PSG goal not from a corner and headed in by David too?

Or the goal by Cavani in Paris was not a header too from a corner?

Let me guess, it was a millisecond error in all three instances.

I can only speak to what you put in front of me. Cavani's goal was the same today cahill misjudged the flight of the ball. I'm not making excuses, what I said was they should've never been in that position to begin with. We sat back way too deep and invited pressure... PSG are very good in the air and they took full advantage of it.

[Parky 739]

Remember attack and possession is the best form of defense. Against a 10 men PSG with 60 mins of football to play and by choosing to go with the tactical decision to let our team sit deep, without any movement, tempo or hard pressing was indefensible.

Certain players were poor but you could see the team did not respond to this tactic leaving the players exposed without any real purpose. Indecision and nerves were escalating as a 10 men PSG piled on the pressure at home. Total abysmal disgrace.

I think Jose is the right man for Chelsea but today Jose has to take the blame a 100%.

[cosmicway 1,333]

I don't like the sterility up front.

The old school of EPL players were types who when given the ball bumped straight onto the first defender (British players only those days). Peter Osgood was something of an exception, in the skills department.

Then they crossed from too deep and that was useless.

Things got modernized and the managers who knew their job brought more skillful players. It was ok to cross but you had to carry the ball down the wing - close to the by line or thereabouts.

Now we have this endless passing.
Hoping the defenders will fall asleep - like the West Ham defenders did and left Hazard unmarked.

But overall it does n't work. It looks more like a time wasting scheme to me.

This is why we could n't score today, also against Everton, Burnley and others.
In the end today's goal in normal time was one out of ancient English football -the type Brian Clough hated- as it turned out.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Remember attack and possession is the best form of defense. By making the tactical decision to let our team sit deep, without any movement, tempo and proper pressing when at 0-0 @ home to a 10 men PSG is indefensible.

Certain players were poor but you could see the team did not respond to this tactic with players exposed without any real purpose. Indecision and nerves were escalating as a 10 men PSG piled on the pressure at home. Total abysmal disgrace.

I think Jose is the right man for Chelsea but today Jose has to take the blame a 100%.

What I've been saying all night.

[cosmicway 1,333]

What I've been saying all night.

Well then you are a follower of -yesterday's- Mourinho system.

Don't forget that for 105 minutes out of the total of 120 it was working and we were ahead.

But I 'm against attack for the sake of possession, especially when things are on balance. That way we score one goal every six months.

Also some think of PSG as some sort of Burnley who normally cannot string two passes. They 're not and we had to score goals to be on the safe side. Otherwise the ball decides (and the ball is a pr*stitute).

[robsblubot 3,550]

What I've been saying all night.

how can we move our players forward without exposing our cbs who are very slow?

It's all connected - if the attackers move up without the defense line following suit, we incur into the same problem: too much distance between the lines which makes difficult keeping possession.

Our current crop of players work well in this system. Not sure it's actually possible to change it without changing the players.

[tawee75 39]

So they should fire him and go bring another coach?

Unfortunately he has to go for the sake of the club

[jasonlol 154]

who should we replace mourihno with?